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November 5, 2012 5:19:46 AM

Approximate Purchase Date: Not anytime soon, probably next month.

Budget Range: As stated above, roughly 400-$500

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, Video Editing, School, Music

Are you buying a monitor: I have a monitor as well as most accessories.



Do you need to buy OS: No


Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Amazon or newegg.com

Location: TN, Clarksville

Parts Preferences: Big fan of Nvidia and Intel. Due to budget, disregard my preferences here.

Overclocking: Should those giving me advice think it's suitable or necessary for my intentions.

SLI or Crossfire: Same as above.

Your Monitor Resolution: 1280x1024

Additional Comments: I'm a big gamer, unfortunately, I don't have a big pile of money to throw at a really nice computer so upgrades will have to be made later I guess. I'm intending to play games such as BF3 or Arma 2 on medium to high. I can handle low, but the FPS would have to be excellent. It also needs to be able to handle other applications such as Fraps, which would otherwise severely impact Framerate. I'm not to worried about other things. I could canabalize my old HP desktop for the Optical Drive (not sure of the model/brand) as it has never been a problem in the past. Whatever it takes to save some money.


And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: Gaming purposes only. I have no real reason to do this otherwise. My laptop can handle pretty much everything else.

Appreciate the help.

More about : 400 500 gaming rig

November 5, 2012 5:34:12 AM

I would reconsider the request for Nvidia and Intel - at this pricepoint, an A10 APU with super-fast ram will blow them out of the water. (Especially at that resolution, where CPU oomph matters more.)
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November 5, 2012 5:36:06 AM

DarkSable said:
I would reconsider the request for Nvidia and Intel - at this pricepoint, an A10 APU with super-fast ram will blow them out of the water. (Especially at that resolution, where CPU oomph matters more.)


Alright, so Radeon and AMD? I can do that. I'll re-edit. Anyone else who sees this, feel free to brainstorm if you think it's a possibility.
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November 5, 2012 5:40:23 AM

Something to consider, if your old optical drive has an IDE connector, it won't work. If you aren't sure: http://www.avforums.com/forums/attachments/hard-disks-m... Sorry I am feeling too lazy to embed the image.

The hard drive (yes I know you have an optical drive) on top is SATA, the one of the bottom is IDE. Unless you get a motherboard that has IDE on board, most won't, then you are out of luck.
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November 5, 2012 5:44:11 AM

Robert Pankiw said:
Something to consider, if your old optical drive has an IDE connector, it won't work. If you aren't sure: http://www.avforums.com/forums/attachments/hard-disks-m... Sorry I am feeling too lazy to embed the image.

The hard drive (yes I know you have an optical drive) on top is SATA, the one of the bottom is IDE. Unless you get a motherboard that has IDE on board, most won't, then you are out of luck.


Wow, alright. Thanks a lot, I'll check later... That never crossed my mind, partly because I'm half asleep and partly because I have little to no knowledge of hardware.
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November 5, 2012 6:15:49 AM

Hey, not sure if you are still awake, I had a little fun: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/mAer

Edit: Okay so I saw something I didn't expect, a 560ti for less than $100. Yes it is last generation, and yes it uses a lot more power (a lot more) but it has the performance to back it up, and for the price, I am just impressed.

You can safely ignore what I have below, because instead of making a new PCPartPicker list, I re-wrote the old one by accident. The good news is that I cut the overall pric by around $60, the bad news is that it has 4GB ram and a 500GB hard drive (add $15 and $30 respectively to get to the 8GB and 1TB). Pretty much everything else is the same.
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If you do NOT include tax, and you DO include rebates, that build skims in just under 500 dollars. It does need a little more up front to handle tax etc, but it will have more horse power than an APU (I am a fan of AMD APUs by the way).

Disclaimer: You need to be happy with the case, I just found that one, and it doesn't really mean anything to me :p 

You CAN go cheaper without hurting your quality. 4GB ram instead of 8, maybe a cheaper PSU, less hard drive space (500GB seems like plenty to me, and I got you 1TB). The Motherboard can be cut down too, but regarding the Mobo, it is already lacking features some people might want, like more audio channels. However, it says it has USB 3.0 on headers (unless I mis-read) so there isn't too much compromise (do not be mistaken, there is compromise).

I hope it helps, it was my first time using pcpartpicker, and I had fun doing it.

P.S. I know there are some parts not from your prefered retailers, I tried but it isn't always easy. :( 
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November 5, 2012 2:10:34 PM

Robert Pankiw said:
Hey, not sure if you are still awake, I had a little fun: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/mAer

Edit: Okay so I saw something I didn't expect, a 560ti for less than $100. Yes it is last generation, and yes it uses a lot more power (a lot more) but it has the performance to back it up, and for the price, I am just impressed.

You can safely ignore what I have below, because instead of making a new PCPartPicker list, I re-wrote the old one by accident. The good news is that I cut the overall pric by around $60, the bad news is that it has 4GB ram and a 500GB hard drive (add $15 and $30 respectively to get to the 8GB and 1TB). Pretty much everything else is the same.
/edit

If you do NOT include tax, and you DO include rebates, that build skims in just under 500 dollars. It does need a little more up front to handle tax etc, but it will have more horse power than an APU (I am a fan of AMD APUs by the way).

Disclaimer: You need to be happy with the case, I just found that one, and it doesn't really mean anything to me :p 

You CAN go cheaper without hurting your quality. 4GB ram instead of 8, maybe a cheaper PSU, less hard drive space (500GB seems like plenty to me, and I got you 1TB). The Motherboard can be cut down too, but regarding the Mobo, it is already lacking features some people might want, like more audio channels. However, it says it has USB 3.0 on headers (unless I mis-read) so there isn't too much compromise (do not be mistaken, there is compromise).

I hope it helps, it was my first time using pcpartpicker, and I had fun doing it.

P.S. I know there are some parts not from your prefered retailers, I tried but it isn't always easy. :( 


I was sleeping, and thanks. That will work great. 500 GB hdd is fine, I doubt I'll end up using half of it. Far as ram goes... I'll need to pay the extra for 8 GB. I doubt 4 would be enough.

Well, thanks for putting time into an answer, do you think it can handle the games mentioned above with ease?
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November 5, 2012 2:27:38 PM

Here is an outside link:

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2011/12/22/am...

Their test is able to (albeit using a 2500k) stay above 30 frames at 1080p on both ArmA2 and Battlefield 3 while using the highest possible settings (the item I sent you was for a 560ti, not a 560ti 448core). I recommend using http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... this RAM because it is low voltage and still decent speeds. If you prefer CAS 9, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... if you care about getting a good opinion on RAM wait for someone to agree with me because I am not a ram guy.

I want to repeat: Make sure you are happy with the case because you buy it, it will be your eyes looking at it and your hands working with it, not mine. The same thing goes for every part of your build.

Here is a link for Battlefield 3 SINGLE PLAYER http://www.ocaholic.ch/xoops/html/modules/smartsection/... for all intents and purposes the battle field 3 test is on ultra settings, but it doesn't explicitly say that so I won't either.

/Edit: So I just checked and the 560ti I mentioned isn't there. http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=64376 It states it is backorder, which is a bit of a worry, but it does say available, so there is that too. If I were you, I'd order it now, even though you don't need it for a month, just in case you miss out on this deal.

Also note: The hard drive also reverted to 1TB, so you can look into lower capacity model.
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November 5, 2012 3:01:21 PM

Best answer selected by RageNPlay.
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November 5, 2012 3:02:07 PM

Fantastic, thanks for the help. =)

Case is fine.
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