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November 5, 2012 9:36:29 PM

Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... -$55

Video Card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... -$105

Hard Drive: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... -$50

PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... -$43

Ram: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... -$40

CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... -$95

MoBo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... -$74

Budget-$500
Grand Total including tax&shipping: $502.11


Hey I'm new here and I'd like some help with my first intel build. I'm gonna use this computer just to surf the web, youtube, netflix, write essays. The only game I play is League of Legends and I would like to play on a high fps. I'm thinking the video card might be overkill for just LoL.

Does everything seem compatible to you guys? Any way I can save money or upgrade parts without going over $500.

Thanks guys for the help

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November 5, 2012 9:44:24 PM

You should really spend the extra 5 dollars on getting the 500GB version of that hard drive, 5 dollars for 250GB is definitely worth it.

That PSU is not worth 43 bucks, Thermaltake makes second rate power supplies, and aren't as nice as offerings from Antec and Corsair. The Antec VP-450W is the best power supply under 45 dollars, and at max load can actually generate 550W of power at 81% efficiency, based on tests. It's $40, and was recommended in Tom's Hardware's System Build Marathon. If that's not in stock, go for the Corsair CX 430. It's 35 dollars including a mail in rebate.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

That motherboard is way too expensive for your build. Since you're not overclocking, you don't need more features, and that money would be better spent on a better CPU and a lower end motherboard. The motherboard in THIS case won't make a difference.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B002MRROO4/?tag=pcpapi-20

This is a motherboard with the same chipset, and is made by Asrock, a better quality MOBO maker.

You'll save like twenty dollars on it, so you can put that extra money into buying an i3 2120, which will far outperform the Pentium you picked out.

http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=59192&vpn=BX80623I3212...

Your graphics card is fine, but make sure you use the mail in rebate; you'll bring the price of that GPU down to only $90. You can then spend that saved $15 dollars on buying RP in LoL! :D 

Good luck on your build!
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November 5, 2012 9:50:56 PM

Wow thanks man. That was really helpful. Can you link me to the hard drive?
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November 5, 2012 10:00:29 PM

For that motherboard, it says it has a 3 Gb/s Sata. Isn't that a lot slower than 6 gb/s?
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November 5, 2012 11:04:59 PM

I dont think that Ivy Bridge CPU will be compatible with the motherboard without a bios update
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November 5, 2012 11:11:14 PM

I decided to go with the Intel i3 sandy bridge. Im going to go with all of sonicers recommendations but my only concern is that the mobo supports only 3 gb/s while the hard drive is 6 gb/s. Will this affect the performance of the computer?
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November 5, 2012 11:22:30 PM

seanoh93 said:
I decided to go with the Intel i3 sandy bridge. Im going to go with all of sonicers recommendations but my only concern is that the mobo supports only 3 gb/s while the hard drive is 6 gb/s. Will this affect the performance of the computer?


The difference is 250mb/sec bandwidth versus 500mb/sec bandwidth.
The hard drive in reality will never come near saturating this bandwidth, so there will not be any difference at all.

Even if it was a high end SSD, the difference then would still be negligible.
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November 5, 2012 11:22:47 PM

hdd - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
mobo - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
cpu - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
ram - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
psu - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
gpu - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
case - http://www.newegg.com/Shopping/ShoppingItem.aspx?ItemLi...
= 551.25$ after you use the EMCJNGN28 promo code. (There's also -20$ in rebates, which would bring it down to 531.25$, if you are the kind of person who sends them in.)

phenom II x4 955
1tb hdd, SATA III, 64 mb cache, 7200 rpm
am3+ 970 chipset board
8gb of 1333 mhz ram
630W 80 plus psu
Thermaltake V3 Black Edition mid tower case
7850 2gig vram, aftermarket cooler

THE best build you can get for the price.
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November 5, 2012 11:23:23 PM

If I were you, I'd save 15 dollars and get this case ( I have three of them and they all run absolutely GREAT while keeping an internal temp of 22 C )

Fractal Design Core 1000: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I would also take a small upgrade and get an H77 motherboard. I use these all the time and my only complaint WHATSOEVER about this board is the location of the SATA ports. This is flat out the best board on the market for the money.

ASRock H77M: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Hope this helps!
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November 6, 2012 12:03:23 AM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Gateway DX Series DX4860-UR15P (DT.GCCAA.001) Desktop PC Intel Core i5 2320(3.00GHz) 4GB DDR3 1TB HDD Capacity Intel HD Graphics Windows 7 Home Premium 64-Bit

$429.99 $24.25 Shipping

Highlights:
-Intel sandybridge i5 quad core.
-1tb hdd.
-wireless lan.
-windows 7 instead of running windows xp or a hacked os copy that could be buggy.
-Not too bad gateway micro atx case.

Faults:
- crummy oem motherboard.
-Os system tied to the motherboard's bios string.
-poor oem power supply
-typical package system "crapware" that will need to be uninstalled.
-It's a refurbished system meaning "used".

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 7770 GHz Edition 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card ( 11201-00-20G)
Free Nexuiz & Far Cry 3 w/ purchase, limited offer
$119.99 $104.99 after $15.00 rebate card

(in the pictures it looks like it includes a molex to pcie power adapter, mini hdmi to hdmi plug and dvi to vga plug)

It should work ok with the 300 watt oem ps since the hd-7770 is under 100 watts.
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November 6, 2012 12:15:38 AM

bawchicawawa said:
hdd - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
mobo - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
cpu - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
ram - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
psu - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
gpu - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
case - http://www.newegg.com/Shopping/ShoppingItem.aspx?ItemLi...
= 551.25$ after you use the EMCJNGN28 promo code. (There's also -20$ in rebates, which would bring it down to 531.25$, if you are the kind of person who sends them in.)

phenom II x4 955
1tb hdd, SATA III, 64 mb cache, 7200 rpm
am3+ 970 chipset board
8gb of 1333 mhz ram
630W 80 plus psu
Thermaltake V3 Black Edition mid tower case
7850 2gig vram, aftermarket cooler

THE best build you can get for the price.


He's looking for the best price over performance. That CPU is old, which won't serve him well in the long run. It's the rough equivalent of Pentium.

The PSU you picked is a pretty bad PSU; Rosewill PSUs that are not of the Capstone/Hive series are sub-par.

The Antec 300 is a far better case in terms of build quality, and if you were willing to sacrifice build quality, why go for a 45 dollar case?

He doesn't need a 7870 for League of Legends; an A8 APU could max LoL on ultra settings.

If you're only looking to max League of Legends, this build would be far more than what you'd need.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/m05V
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/m05V/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/m05V/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD A10-5800K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor ($119.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock FM2A75M-DGS Micro ATX FM2 Motherboard ($60.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Kingston 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($37.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Antec 450W ATX12V Power Supply ($35.83 @ NCIX US)
Total: $349.77
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

The MOBO has SATA 6.0 GB/s and USB 3.0 which should resolve any MOBO concerns you have. Your APU's integrated graphics will be reaching roughly 6670-6770 performance, thanks to the 2133 MHz memory.
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November 6, 2012 1:02:54 AM

bawchicawawa said:
hdd - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
mobo - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
cpu - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
ram - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
psu - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
gpu - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
case - http://www.newegg.com/Shopping/ShoppingItem.aspx?ItemLi...
= 551.25$ after you use the EMCJNGN28 promo code. (There's also -20$ in rebates, which would bring it down to 531.25$, if you are the kind of person who sends them in.)

phenom II x4 955
1tb hdd, SATA III, 64 mb cache, 7200 rpm
am3+ 970 chipset board
8gb of 1333 mhz ram
630W 80 plus psu
Thermaltake V3 Black Edition mid tower case
7850 2gig vram, aftermarket cooler

THE best build you can get for the price.

best build yet but i would pay 5$ more for phenom II 965 http://pcpartpicker.com/part/amd-cpu-hdz965fbgmbox
phenom II 965 is faster than A10-5800K in games http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/102?vs=675
and if you want cheaper graphics card i suggest AMD 7770 which it is faster than 550TI and much more efficient for 120$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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November 6, 2012 1:43:32 AM

oxford373 said:
best build yet but i would pay 5$ more for phenom II 965 http://pcpartpicker.com/part/amd-cpu-hdz965fbgmbox
phenom II 965 is faster than A10-5800K in games http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/102?vs=675
and if you want cheaper graphics card i suggest AMD 7770 which it is faster than 550TI and much more efficient for 120$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


The i3 2120 beats the Phenom II X4 in just about everything, and I clearly stated he could go with the A10 if he wanted to save money because he stated before, he ONLY plays League of Legends, which, again, an A8 with no graphics card could max out on max settings.

The Phenom II X4 beats the A10 in games, but if he were to want to play games, he'd need a dedicated graphics card, which with the A10 he wouldn't need. In the end, you're getting less gaming performance form the Phenom II X4 + low end $40 graphics card (Phenom + 40 = 130, which is how much the A10 costs) The A10 offers better price/performance, and you're going to be getting MUCH lower framerates from a 40 graphics card than the build in graphics of the APU. This is, again, only if he decides to save some money and go with an APU build.

He chose the 550ti most likely for the price after rebate, which would come out to $90. A comparable card at this price point from AMD would be the 7750, which I believe is below the 550ti, but either way, he won't need such a nice graphics card.
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November 6, 2012 1:48:05 AM

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He's looking for the best price over performance. That CPU is old, which won't serve him well in the long run. It's the rough equivalent of Pentium.

The PSU you picked is a pretty bad PSU; Rosewill PSUs that are not of the Capstone/Hive series are sub-par.

The Antec 300 is a far better case in terms of build quality, and if you were willing to sacrifice build quality, why go for a 45 dollar case?

He doesn't need a 7870 for League of Legends; an A8 APU could max LoL on ultra settings.

If you're only looking to max League of Legends, this build would be far more than what you'd need.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/m05V
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/m05V/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/m05V/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD A10-5800K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor ($119.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock FM2A75M-DGS Micro ATX FM2 Motherboard ($60.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Kingston 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($37.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Antec 450W ATX12V Power Supply ($35.83 @ NCIX US)
Total: $349.77
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

The MOBO has SATA 6.0 GB/s and USB 3.0 which should resolve any MOBO concerns you have. Your APU's integrated graphics will be reaching roughly 6670-6770 performance, thanks to the 2133 MHz memory.


I suggested the 7850, not the 7870.
You need to brush up on your benchmarks (Telling by your suggestions/criticisms, you don't pay attention to benchmarks much.), the phenom II x4 955 is still the best price/performance and will get better frames than an I3 or a pentium in games that utilize 4 cores, like BF3 multiplayer.


The build I suggested is the best price/performance hands down for 550$.
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November 6, 2012 1:56:03 AM

Benchmarks are some of the most unreliable measurements of CPU power, ad even if you wanted to use your CPU, it's still not the best price/performance.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/mG9s
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/mG9s/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/mG9s/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($82.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($26.22 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock 960GM/U3S3 FX Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($61.97 @ Newegg)
Memory: Kingston HyperX T1 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($25.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7870 2GB Video Card ($209.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($37.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($49.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $550.13
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

Same price, Seasonic made PSU, which would be better than the Thermaltake in terms of build quality, longevity, reliability, and efficiency.

You're also getting a MUCH better graphics card for the price point.

You're getting better, faster RAM that's also better for overclocking at the same price point.

You're getting a CPU cooler which would allow for overclocking, to bring the Phenom to i3 performance. If you didn't already know, the i3 is two tiers above the 955 on Tom's chart.

Best price/performance hands down?

No OC, lower GPU, lower clocked memory, bad power supply, and still, best price/performance hands down?

On a side note, I never said the A10 was best price/performance for $550, and either way, OP said $500. I'm just jumping on the 550 bandwagon.

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November 6, 2012 1:56:53 AM

seanoh93 said:
Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... -$55

Video Card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... -$105

Hard Drive: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... -$50

PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... -$43

Ram: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... -$40

CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... -$95

MoBo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... -$74

Budget-$500
Grand Total including tax&shipping: $502.11


Hey I'm new here and I'd like some help with my first intel build. I'm gonna use this computer just to surf the web, youtube, netflix, write essays. The only game I play is League of Legends and I would like to play on a high fps. I'm thinking the video card might be overkill for just LoL.

Does everything seem compatible to you guys? Any way I can save money or upgrade parts without going over $500.

Thanks guys for the help


DONT GET A 550Ti! The 7750 uses less power (No external connectors needed), costs $90, and is just as strong!!! Sorry I am just so tired of people putting it in builds...
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November 6, 2012 2:04:44 AM

CaptainTom said:
DONT GET A 550Ti! The 7750 uses less power (No external connectors needed), costs $90, and is just as strong!!! Sorry I am just so tired of people putting it in builds...


Haha we've established how the 550ti is not a good choice already, don't get your jimmies rustled. No need for caps.
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November 6, 2012 2:08:41 AM

BF3 Multiplayer appears to be irrelevant.
The Rosewill "RG" line has also tested well; HardwareSecrets gave one of them a Golden Award iirc. It's the old, non-80+ units that destroyed Rosewill's reputation in PSUs.
Otherwise, I agree with the gist of what sonicers is saying. If an APU's integrated GPU would be enough for the stated goals, then there's no reason to get anything more powerful (or more expensive) than a HD7750, especially if that frees up money to get other, better parts. It is easy enough to upgrade a graphics card later, if needed.
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November 6, 2012 2:13:01 AM

sonicers said:
Benchmarks are some of the most unreliable measurements of CPU power, ad even if you wanted to use your CPU, it's still not the best price/performance.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/mG9s
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/mG9s/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/mG9s/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($82.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($26.22 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock 960GM/U3S3 FX Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($61.97 @ Newegg)
Memory: Kingston HyperX T1 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($25.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7870 2GB Video Card ($209.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($37.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($49.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $550.13
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

Same price, Seasonic made PSU, which would be better than the Thermaltake in terms of build quality, longevity, reliability, and efficiency.

You're also getting a MUCH better graphics card for the price point.

You're getting better, faster RAM that's also better for overclocking at the same price point.

You're getting a CPU cooler which would allow for overclocking, to bring the Phenom to i3 performance. If you didn't already know, the i3 is two tiers above the 955 on Tom's chart.

Best price/performance hands down?

No OC, lower GPU, lower clocked memory, bad power supply, and still, best price/performance hands down?

On a side note, I never said the A10 was best price/performance for $550, and either way, OP said $500. I'm just jumping on the 550 bandwagon.


I never said you said the a10 was best price/performance for 550$

Anyways, your case is too small for the 212 plus... On top of that, the ets-t40 is a better cooler than the 212 plus
(Proof) http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/enermax_ets_t40...

Also, found a case that benches better at the 40$ range.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Edit! The heatink on the ram you picked out won't allow the CPU heatsink to fit WITH the motherboard you picked out...
Also, I'd like to add the HDD you picked out is a slower drive, on top of it lacking 500GBs compared to what I picked out......

Edit #2. Also, I'd like to add that I wouldn't try and overclock on the motherboard you picked out... Older chipset/cheaper amd mobos are known for their crappy mosfets. What I picked out was a nicely built 970 chipset board.

You didn't think this through, did you?
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November 6, 2012 2:28:56 AM

sonicers said:
The i3 2120 beats the Phenom II X4 in just about everything

core i3-2100 tie phenom II 965 in most games and outperform it in all highly muti-threaded programs http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/102?vs=289
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November 6, 2012 2:39:21 AM

sonicers said:
He's looking for the best price over performance. That CPU is old, which won't serve him well in the long run. It's the rough equivalent of Pentium.

The PSU you picked is a pretty bad PSU; Rosewill PSUs that are not of the Capstone/Hive series are sub-par.

The Antec 300 is a far better case in terms of build quality, and if you were willing to sacrifice build quality, why go for a 45 dollar case?

He doesn't need a 7870 for League of Legends; an A8 APU could max LoL on ultra settings.

If you're only looking to max League of Legends, this build would be far more than what you'd need.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/m05V
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/m05V/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/m05V/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD A10-5800K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor ($119.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock FM2A75M-DGS Micro ATX FM2 Motherboard ($60.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Kingston 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($37.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Antec 450W ATX12V Power Supply ($35.83 @ NCIX US)
Total: $349.77
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

The MOBO has SATA 6.0 GB/s and USB 3.0 which should resolve any MOBO concerns you have. Your APU's integrated graphics will be reaching roughly 6670-6770 performance, thanks to the 2133 MHz memory.



This price would be perfect if it could indeed play Lol at max fps with max settings. Could I get this Mobo instead: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

It's cheaper and it has an HDMI port that I could connect to the monitor.
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November 6, 2012 2:43:44 AM

bawchicawawa said:
I never said you said the a10 was best price/performance for 550$

Anyways, your case is too small for the 212 plus... On top of that, the ets-t40 is a better cooler than the 212 plus
(Proof) http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/enermax_ets_t40...

Also, found a case that benches better at the 40$ range.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Edit! The heatink on the ram you picked out won't allow the CPU heatsink to fit WITH the motherboard you picked out...
Also, I'd like to add the HDD you picked out is a slower drive, on top of it lacking 500GBs compared to what I picked out......

Edit #2. Also, I'd like to add that I wouldn't try and overclock on the motherboard you picked out... Older chipset/cheaper amd mobos are known for their crappy mosfets. What I picked out was a nicely built 970 chipset board.

You didn't think this through, did you?


You didn't include a cooler in your build, so there's you thinkin it through...

I agree with your motherboard choice, I didn't notice that one.

The NZXT Gamma is a good case, so good pick there. I'd edited a mATX build for the same price point, my bad on that.

The drive I picked was SATA III 7200 RPM, if I'm not mistaken... it's not necessarily slower, and I never said the hard drive was a better choice. The hard drive doesn't have an impact on gaming, so he COULD sacrifice some there, if he was truly going for hardcore gaming; the hard drive is not of priority, and would take away from price/performance. Then again, he never said he was a hardcore gamer which negated these more expensive builds in the first place...

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/kingston-memory-khx16c9b1r... Low profile, still better for overclocking than the RAM you picked out, and still faster at stock speeds.

If you HAD included the cooler in your build, the price would rise to 593, which I'M PRETTY SURE is a little over OP's request. Which is just you thinking everything through, once more.



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November 6, 2012 2:48:18 AM

seanoh93 said:
This price would be perfect if it could indeed play Lol at max fps with max settings. Could I get this Mobo instead: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

It's cheaper and it has an HDMI port that I could connect to the monitor.


No, that motherboard uses the FM1 socket, and the A10 5800K uses the FM2 socket.

This motherboard has an HDMI port, but would only support 1866 MHz RAM.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Here's some 1866 MHz RAM in contrast to the 2133 MHz RAM I picked earlier. It's more expensive, but of better quality, and will work with the alternate motherboard.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

A Radeon HD 6670 can max LoL easily, and with 2133 MHz RAM and the A10, you're likely reaching the point of a 6670, or at least a 6570, which can also max out LoL.
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November 6, 2012 2:49:10 AM

oxford373 said:
core i3-2100 tie phenom II 965 in most games and outperform it in all highly muti-threaded programs http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/102?vs=289


Getting a phenom II x4 would be a piss poor choice. Old power hungry CPU with no upgradibility. Get the i3, it matches or beats the pII x4 in every game(although irrelevant because OP explicitly stated he only plays LoL) and its more future proof. That way if you want more juice down the line you can just pop in a quad-core i5/i7(which poo all over amd). Thank you and have a nice day.
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November 6, 2012 2:50:40 AM

sonicers said:
No, that motherboard uses the FM1 socket, and the A10 5800K uses the FM2 socket.

This motherboard has an HDMI port, but would only support 1866 MHz RAM.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Here's some 1866 MHz RAM in contrast to the 2133 MHz RAM I picked earlier. It's more expensive, but of better quality, and will work with the alternate motherboard.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...



So the A10 5800k build you posted earlier, are you sure it'll run LoL at max fps at max settings? that's all i care about really. it'll play youtube videos fine too right?
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November 6, 2012 3:02:45 AM

Yeah, there is a video on youtube that shows the A6-5400k running LoL at 45 fps, using 1333 MHz RAM, at ultra.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKmiAsB7BXs

If you get 2133 MHz RAM, you're going to be getting at least a 25% increase in fps over this dude, AND you're using the A10, which has a MUCH, MUCH better graphics part than the A6 does. You should have no problems getting 60+ fps on ultra settings.
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November 6, 2012 3:04:41 AM

amk09 said:
Getting a phenom II x4 would be a piss poor choice. Old power hungry CPU with no upgradibility. Get the i3, it matches or beats the pII x4 in every game(although irrelevant because OP explicitly stated he only plays LoL) and its more future proof. That way if you want more juice down the line you can just pop in a quad-core i5/i7(which poo all over amd). Thank you and have a nice day.


Thank you! Someone who knows what they're talking about!

The Phenom II X4 955 is two tiers lower than the i3 2120 as a GAMING CPU, according to a series of benchmarks done by the experts at Tomshardware, which since y'all are posting GAMING builds, the i3 would be a more suitable choice!
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November 6, 2012 3:05:16 AM

Best answer selected by seanoh93.
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November 6, 2012 3:05:54 AM

sonicers said:
Yeah, there is a video on youtube that shows the A6-5400k running LoL at 45 fps, using 1333 MHz RAM.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKmiAsB7BXs

If you get 2133 MHz RAM, you're going to be getting at least a 25% increase in fps over this dude, AND you're using the A10, which has a MUCH, MUCH better graphics part than the A6 does. You should have no problems getting 60+ fps on ultra settings.



thanks for the help again. you saved me a lot of money


thanks to everyone else for the help
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November 6, 2012 3:16:54 AM

sonicers said:
You didn't include a cooler in your build, so there's you thinkin it through...

I agree with your motherboard choice, I didn't notice that one.

The NZXT Gamma is a good case, so good pick there. I'd edited a mATX build for the same price point, my bad on that.

The drive I picked was SATA III 7200 RPM, if I'm not mistaken... it's not necessarily slower, and I never said the hard drive was a better choice. The hard drive doesn't have an impact on gaming, so he COULD sacrifice some there, if he was truly going for hardcore gaming; the hard drive is not of priority, and would take away from price/performance. Then again, he never said he was a hardcore gamer which negated these more expensive builds in the first place...

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/kingston-memory-khx16c9b1r... Low profile, still better for overclocking than the RAM you picked out, and still faster at stock speeds.

If you HAD included the cooler in your build, the price would rise to 593, which I'M PRETTY SURE is a little over OP's request. Which is just you thinking everything through, once more.


Never planned on a cpu heatsink. I was just pointing out that the board you picked was terrible for overclocking, so the heatsink was a useless investment anyways.

I picked out the ram due to the low profile heatsink and the 1.5v, apposed to the 1.65 volt standard for more than 1333 mhz ram (I just don't see the point in going higher for more heat in the case, although it wouldn't be much.). There isn't much need for 1600 mhz ram for the build anyways, but that's his choice.

He could cut some cost on the HDD, but I was just using 1TB as a standard, I also liked that it has a good amount of cache (64mb).
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November 6, 2012 3:25:20 AM

I remember reading an article that stated that the higher voltages on Kingston RAM allowed for better overclocking.

You're eating your word from before about the "slow" hard drive.

Scumbag bawchicawawa, revisits solved thread just to get in last lick
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November 6, 2012 3:26:17 AM

sonicers said:
Thank you! Someone who knows what they're talking about!

The Phenom II X4 955 is two tiers lower than the i3 2120 as a GAMING CPU, according to a series of benchmarks done by the experts at Tomshardware, which since y'all are posting GAMING builds, the i3 would be a more suitable choice!




The i3 is terrible if he is going to switch into games that use more than just 2 cores.
Your argument of "OMG, it ares oldddddddddd, et es 2 TIERS lower [Stupid reason much?]) is terribly moronic and shows how low your understanding is.

At any rate, the difference in performance is minimal when it comes to i3 vs. 955, but the 955 whips the i3 when it comes to games that utilize 4 cores.
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November 6, 2012 3:28:47 AM

sonicers said:
I remember reading an article that stated that the higher voltages on Kingston RAM allowed for better overclocking.

You're eating your word from before about the "slow" hard drive.

Scumbag bawchicawawa, revisits solved thread just to get in last lick


Not really, I didn't see that it was 'solved'.

BTW, the drive you picked IS slower, and has 500 less GBs.
For the ram, no need for more than 1333mhz, so I don't see your logic. Another point that shows your ignorance.


You sound like the pseudo 'techies' that run a 3570k with no gpu and brags to all his friends on how good of a gaming pc he has.



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November 6, 2012 3:31:17 AM

Well he's not going to play any other games, now, is he?

That was based on proof, which you're totally oblivious to, apparently. I guess you're just too butthurt over not getting best answer. I can't find any other reason why you'd keep arguing.

League of Legends hardly utilizes one core, which you'd understand if you played the game, or at least done SOME research into OP's request.
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November 6, 2012 4:04:34 AM

sonicers said:
Well he's not going to play any other games, now, is he?

That was based on proof, which you're totally oblivious to, apparently. I guess you're just too butthurt over not getting best answer. I can't find any other reason why you'd keep arguing.

League of Legends hardly utilizes one core, which you'd understand if you played the game, or at least done SOME research into OP's request.


Uhhh, wtf? Who goes on toms for getting the 'best choice'? Where is your mind at?

I was suggesting the best build for around his price point.
I'd rather not spend 35$ extra on a shittier cpu (I3) when it comes to the latest games that utilize 4 cores and spend that on a better gpu, but that's just me(You know, someone with a brain).

Also, proof for what exactly?...
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November 6, 2012 4:10:21 AM

bawchicawawa said:
Uhhh, wtf? Who goes on toms for getting the best choice? Where is your mind at?

I was suggesting the best build for around his price point.
I'd rather not spend 35$ extra on a shittier cpu (I3) when it comes to the latest games that utilize 4 cores and spend that on a better gpu, but that's just me(You know, someone with a brain).

Also, proof for what exactly?...


I didn't say anything about 'best choice', you obviously have no idea what I'm talking about.

This guy... not even reading my posts anymore, just arguing endlessly...

We've been off the topic of i3 vs Phenom for a LONG WHILE NOW, but I guess this is helping your post count, isn't it?

By the way, THIS proof: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-fx-pentium-a...

The i3 2100 gets better performance at stock speeds in CPU oriented games than the 965, and since you didn't originally suggest overclocking... those results cannot be factored in. I'd rather rely on ACTUAL TESTS than benchmarks, but that's just me(You know, someone with a brain). Even the $70 Pentium G630 beats the 965 at stock speeds in CPU oriented games. This is because Intel has better performance per core than AMD, but I'm not sure if you've read up on this before... obviously not. "I hope you brought an umbrella, because it's raining cold hard truths up in here."

Anandtech's benchmarks has long since had a bad reputation for inaccurate benchmarks, I didn't know people still referred to them.

bawchicawawa said:
Where is your mind at?


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November 6, 2012 9:13:22 AM

Quote:
Even the $70 Pentium G630 beats the 965 at stock speeds in CPU oriented games"
:D  :D  :D 
am happy now


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November 6, 2012 11:41:58 PM

sonicers said:

We've been off the topic of i3 vs Phenom for a LONG WHILE NOW, but I guess this is helping your post count, isn't it?

By the way, THIS proof: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-fx-pentium-a...

The i3 2100 gets better performance at stock speeds in CPU oriented games than the 965, and since you didn't originally suggest overclocking... those results cannot be factored in. I'd rather rely on ACTUAL TESTS than benchmarks, but that's just me(You know, someone with a brain). Even the $70 Pentium G630 beats the 965 at stock speeds in CPU oriented games. This is because Intel has better performance per core than AMD, but I'm not sure if you've read up on this before... obviously not. "I hope you brought an umbrella, because it's raining cold hard truths up in here."

Anandtech's benchmarks has long since had a bad reputation for inaccurate benchmarks, I didn't know people still referred to them.

yes you convinced,the second best computer hardware website now is the worst,anyway fx 6300(140$) tie core i3-3220(130$) in all cpu oriented games(lightly-threaded games) and outperform it all highly multi-threaded games and programs
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-r...
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/699?vs=289
^this benchmark include starcraft 2
http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/amd_fx8350/8.ht...
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