Looking for advice to build new computer

[indrakurs]

Hi, i'm Indra
i have a plan to build new PC, my budget is about 750$

I do 3ds max, after effect, illustrator, photoshop, converting video

I do game too, but this is not the main thing I do with my comp

I have MSI gtx 550 ti OC from my old comp
and 500gb hdd, 2tb hdd eks

other than these things, I want buy a new one..

any advice and reason will help.. thank's

 

[indrakurs]

Approximate Purchase Date: this year


Budget Range: $700 - $750


System Usage from Most to Least Important: 3ds max, after effect and another design program, watching video, game, surfing website
Are you buying a monitor: no, I will use my old one.


RAM: minimum 6GB prefer 8GB


Parts to Upgrade: Full computer except for VGA and hdd


Do you need to buy OS: nope.


Preferred Website(s) for Parts: I'm not sure about this.


Parts Preferences: Intel, asus, gigabyte, msi


Overclocking: no.


SLI or Crossfire: I'm not sure what this mean.. but my VGA is nvidia


Your Monitor Resolution: ah! forgot about this.. posting this question from my office.. but my monitor is 14 inch


Additional Comments: confuse about using ssd or not


And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: Would like to have a great computer to doing animation

 

[indrakurs]

sorry I meant $750 in US..
and my monitor resolution is 1024 x 768
this is my first post, so i apologies if the post are bad

 

[geofelt]

Can you reuse your case, psu and dvd?

Photoshop responds to large amounts of ram.
a 16gb kit of 2 x 8gb will be about $70.
A 3570K will be about $220. ($190 if you can walk in to a microcenter)
A Z77 motherboard will be $150 or so. Pick your favorite brand.
Your current graphics card is very good. No change needed there.
I would definitely target a SSD. It will make everything you do feel so much quicker.
Look for at least 120gb. Your budget will permit 180gb, or even 240gb. Price should be <$1 per gb.
Intel 330 or Samsung 830 are currently the best for reliability, and they seem to be on sale frequently now. Keep a lookout.

If you want to replace your case, what do you value in a case?
I happen to like small size cases and quiet ones.
Others like windows, "bling" and large sizes.

I think you will have extra funds left over.
I suggest you use some for a second monitor.
The improvement in convenience is wonderful.

Post a list of what you are considering, along with links as a starting point.

 

[Mousemonkey]

This topic has been moved from the section CPU & Components to section Systems by Mousemonkey

 

[g-unit1111]

Can you reuse your case, psu and dvd?

Photoshop responds to large amounts of ram.
a 16gb kit of 2 x 8gb will be about $70.
A 3570K will be about $220. ($190 if you can walk in to a microcenter)
A Z77 motherboard will be $150 or so. Pick your favorite brand.
Your current graphics card is very good. No change needed there.
I would definitely target a SSD. It will make everything you do feel so much quicker.
Look for at least 120gb. Your budget will permit 180gb, or even 240gb. Price should be <$1 per gb.
Intel 330 or Samsung 830 are currently the best for reliability, and they seem to be on sale frequently now. Keep a lookout

How many times must I advise against purchasing an Intel SSD? The one I have - the last firmware update was dated October 2009 (and it still doesn't fully fix all the issues the drive has), you're lucky if a 330 has any beyond that. Go with a Samsung 830, Plextor PX-M3, Crucial M4, or OCZ Vertex 4. The Vertex 4 may not be perfect but at least OCZ stands behind what they sell.

A 3570K won't be obtainable on this budget without sacrificing something.

 

[geofelt]

How many times must I advise against purchasing an Intel SSD? The one I have - the last firmware update was dated October 2009 (and it still doesn't fully fix all the issues the drive has), you're lucky if a 330 has any beyond that. Go with a Samsung 830, Plextor PX-M3, Crucial M4, or OCZ Vertex 4. The Vertex 4 may not be perfect but at least OCZ stands behind what they sell.

A 3570K won't be obtainable on this budget without sacrificing something.

@g-unit1111

My experience with half a dozen Intel SSD's has been flawless.

You must be talking about one of the original X25-? SSD's which were launched in 2008.
Times have changed.
Here is an interesting link to SSD return rates. Don't know why Samsung is not included:
http://www.behardware.com/articles/862-7/components-returns-rates-6.html

 

[g-unit1111]

@g-unit1111

My experience with half a dozen Intel SSD's has been flawless.

You must be talking about one of the original X25-? SSD's which were launched in 2008.
Times have changed.
Here is an interesting link to SSD return rates. Don't know why Samsung is not included:
http://www.behardware.com/articles/862-7/components-returns-rates-6.html

I'm talking about the Sandforce based 320. Not the X25, so yes I have used current Intel SSDs, my experience with them has not been that great.

 

[geofelt]

I'm talking about the Sandforce based 320. Not the X25, so yes I have used current Intel SSDs, my experience with them has not been that great.

I guess you can get a bad unit from anyone

Looking at the newegg negative(0-1 eggs) feedback ratings for 120gb SSD's
the 320 series is about 6% which is similar to the other Intel or Samsung 120gb ssd's.
Many other ssd's are twice that.
For example the most frequently reviewed 120gb ssd is the Vertex 3 with 876 reviews, of which 23% are negative.
Not exactly a scientific study, but, I have none better.

 

[g-unit1111]

I guess you can get a bad unit from anyone

Looking at the newegg negative(0-1 eggs) feedback ratings for 120gb SSD's
the 320 series is about 6% which is similar to the other Intel or Samsung 120gb ssd's.
Many other ssd's are twice that.
For example the most frequently reviewed 120gb ssd is the Vertex 3 with 876 reviews, of which 23% are negative.
Not exactly a scientific study, but, I have none better.

Yeah Newegg reviews aren't exactly what one would call a "scientific survey". :lol:

If you look closer - if I were to ballpark, I would say a good 75% of negative reviews posted on Newegg have absolutely *NOTHING* to do with the actual product failing - it's either bad refunds or problems with UPS. That's why I say it's not a good source to look for reviews.

 

[indrakurs]

Can you reuse your case, psu and dvd?

Photoshop responds to large amounts of ram.
a 16gb kit of 2 x 8gb will be about $70.
A 3570K will be about $220. ($190 if you can walk in to a microcenter)
A Z77 motherboard will be $150 or so. Pick your favorite brand.
Your current graphics card is very good. No change needed there.
I would definitely target a SSD. It will make everything you do feel so much quicker.
Look for at least 120gb. Your budget will permit 180gb, or even 240gb. Price should be <$1 per gb.
Intel 330 or Samsung 830 are currently the best for reliability, and they seem to be on sale frequently now. Keep a lookout.

If you want to replace your case, what do you value in a case?
I happen to like small size cases and quiet ones.
Others like windows, "bling" and large sizes.

I think you will have extra funds left over.
I suggest you use some for a second monitor.
The improvement in convenience is wonderful.

Post a list of what you are considering, along with links as a starting point.

I think I'll wait until my salary for this month paid
and I'll get $200 US more..
so, my budget became $900 US
I sell my old PC for get an extra money
so I will need PSU, dvd, case
I've already have monitor and others, except case and components inside

i'm not OC, so I think I'll get i7 3770

confuse about motherboard
ASUS P8H77-V LE LGA 1155
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131826

or this
ASRock H77 Pro4/MVP LGA 1155 Intel H77
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157302
people say ASRock PCB is thin. so, is that matters? will the PCB expand because of heat? which one should I'll take? Asus or Asrock? prefer ATX form. or you have another suggestion?

G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 16GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231489

CORSAIR Vengeance 16GB
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233310

G-SKILL with Timing 10-10-10-30 VS. CORSAIR Timing 10-10-10-27
which one is better?


SSD:

in my country, I doubt if this brand is sold (Samsung 830 ) I'm from Indonesia, when I looking for Samsung in computer online shop, there is none, so here is my option:
OCZ Agility3 120Gb 2.5 Inch Sata III 120Gb SSD SSD
OCZ Octane 128Gb SATA III SSD SSD
OCZ Vertex-3 120Gb SATA III SSD SSD
OCZ Vertex-4 128Gb SATA III SSD SSD
intel 330 series 120Gb SSD
Corsair Force Series CSSD-F120GB3-BK sata III SSD SSD
Corsair Force GT Series Sata III CSSD-F120GBGT-BK SSD SSD
Corsair CSSD-F120GB3A-NB SSD
I don't know which one is better. so, maybe you can help me to choose

PSU:
Cooler Master Silent Pro Gold 800W
Cooler Master Silent pro Modular 2 850W New Bronze
Silverstone 850W SST-ST85F-E
I don't know how to calculate how much power that I need, but my friend said, if I take core i7, at least I must take 750W... is this number of power (750W) ok? is 850W to much? having plan to add more case fan

for case I'll take: Cooler Master HAF 912 Combat. is this case big enough for the PSU? I'll change original processor fan, maybe with:

cooler-master-x6-heatsink
http://tbreak.com/tech/2012/05/cooler-master-x6-heatsink-review/

Noctua NH-U9B SE2 92mm SSO CPU Cooler
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835608016

Thermaltake Frio
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835106150
is these ok? or my option is to high? that will be great if you can help me to choose or maybe giving another option.

dvd
LITE-ON 24X DVD Writer
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106335
or LG brand

PS: i'm form Indonesia, of course i will buy those items in Indonesia, but for help you to calculate with the budget, i'm already do conversion so, it's about $900 US

 

[g-unit1111]

in my country, I doubt if this brand is sold (Samsung 830 ) I'm from Indonesia, when I looking for Samsung in computer online shop, there is none, so here is my option:
OCZ Agility3 120Gb 2.5 Inch Sata III 120Gb SSD SSD
OCZ Octane 128Gb SATA III SSD SSD
OCZ Vertex-3 120Gb SATA III SSD SSD
OCZ Vertex-4 128Gb SATA III SSD SSD
intel 330 series 120Gb SSD
Corsair Force Series CSSD-F120GB3-BK sata III SSD SSD
Corsair Force GT Series Sata III CSSD-F120GBGT-BK SSD SSD
Corsair CSSD-F120GB3A-NB SSD
I don't know which one is better. so, maybe you can help me to choose

Of those choices the Vertex 4 is the best. If you're buying in Indonesia - what's available on Newegg and what's available where you live may not always match. If you know the store you're buying from - post it and we will be able to suggest parts. If you don't know of one the link in my signature will point you in the right direction.

 

[indrakurs]

ok, thank you! here you go then:
so my budget is Rp. 9.000.000

for motherboard:
Asrock
http://www.bhinneka.com/products/sku00612358/asrock_motherboard_socket_lga1155__h77_pro4_mvp_.aspx

Asus
http://www.bhinneka.com/products/sku00312717/asus_motherboard_socket_lga1155__p8h77-v_.aspx

Processor:
http://www.bhinneka.com/products/sku00712650/intel_processor_core__i7_3770_.aspx

SSD:
http://www.bhinneka.com/products/sku00512773/ocz_vertex_4_series_-_128_gb__vtx4-25sat3-128g_.aspx
as you suggested, or there's any other suggestion form this site:
http://www.bhinneka.com/category/solid_state_drive___ssd.aspx

PSU:
I still doesn't have any idea how wattage I'll need, can you help me to choose from this site:
http://www.bhinneka.com/category/power_supply.aspx

like I said, my friend told me to take 750 W if I have core i7, is 750 W over power or effective one? that's why my option is about 800-850 W

case:
I would like HAF 912 combat, but since it's 2.0 USB port, I just wondering if I can modification the port to 3.0, is that possible?

or maybe you can help me from this site:
http://www.bhinneka.com/category/desktop_case_middle_tower.aspx
I'm lookin a case, that have a good cooling system, good air flow.. as I'm working with 3d will take a long time, so I need efficient air flow and 3.0 port USB (PS: if modification USB port is possible, I'll take another case)

RAM:
Corsair
http://www.bhinneka.com/products/sku00512506/corsair_memory_pc_2x_8gb_ddr3_pc-12800__vengeance_cmz16gx3m2a1600c9_.aspx

or

http://www.bhinneka.com/products/sku00612299/corsair_memory_pc_2x_8gb_pc-12800_ddr3__vengeance_cmz16gx3m2a1600c10r_.aspx

G-Skill
http://www.bhinneka.com/products/sku00612923/gskill_memory_pc_2x_8gb_ddr3_pc-12800__ripjaws_x_f3-12800cl10d-16gbxl_.aspx

or if these two is not good, you can help me to choose from this site:
http://www.bhinneka.com/category/memory_desktop_ddr3.aspx

I want my budget use effectively, so if the PSU is over power, maybe get the small wattage ones, and the money can allocate to another part

thank's anyway for your help

 

[indrakurs]

here's another site for PSU:

http://rakitan.com/kategori.php?id=34

this one for SSD:
http://rakitan.com/kategori.php?id=60

rakitan.com is cheaper then bhinneka.com just letting you know the price range is about that

 

[g-unit1111]

like I said, my friend told me to take 750 W if I have core i7, is 750 W over power or effective one? that's why my option is about 800-850 W

You won't come close to using that much power, even if you have a dual GPU setup. You could effectively go 650 or 550 and be fine.

For PSU go with this: http://www.bhinneka.com/products/sku00311930/corsair_tx_v2_series__cmpsu-650txv2eu_.aspx

RAM is fine, make sure it's low profile - don't get that model. Get the G.Skill over the Corsair.

I'd go for the original SSD choice and either motherboard you picked is fine.

 

[indrakurs]

what about this? this have "modular" is that matter?
http://www.bhinneka.com/products/sku00512306/corsair_txm_series__tx650m_cp-9020002-na_.aspx

 

[g-unit1111]

what about this? this have "modular" is that matter?
http://www.bhinneka.com/products/sku00512306/corsair_txm_series__tx650m_cp-9020002-na_.aspx

It's actually not a fully modular PSU - it's semi-modular. The power cables are built in, the SATA and GPU cables are what is modular. That's only useful if you want your case to have as few wires as possible.

 

[indrakurs]

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[indrakurs]

ok then, thank you very much for your time, have a great day