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My Pc will not play any games !

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September 11, 2012 3:20:45 PM

hey ive had this pc for a week and since day one my pc has lagged !
ive tried updating all my drivers , defragging my hard drive , ive even done multiple windows re-installs
and i just don't know whats going on , whaat is happening and how do i fix this ?

Specs :
amd fx-4100 3.6gh
ati radeon 6670 hd 2gb ddr3
8 gb ram
500 gb hdd

resolution: 1920x1080

please help !

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September 11, 2012 4:53:06 PM

What games are you trying to play at what settings?
September 11, 2012 4:59:57 PM

bigbasedrum said:
What games are you trying to play at what settings?


i am only playing games on what the games recommend i don't adjust them in anyway for eaxmple skyrim recommends i play it on very high .
However changing graphics down doesnt change the lag spikes , the games also goes in slow motion alot (minecarft especially)
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a b U Graphics card
September 11, 2012 5:45:28 PM

Recommended settings are normally wrong. That will not play Skyrim on very high. Turn the settings down to low then report back.
September 11, 2012 5:47:18 PM

wanderer11 said:
Recommended settings are normally wrong. That will not play Skyrim on very high. Turn the settings down to low then report back.


ok i have just turned my game settings down and yet the lag spikes still acur ? also when the game is turned down or up it doesn't change my fps ?
a b U Graphics card
September 11, 2012 5:58:07 PM

URBANHOOLIGAN said:
ok i have just turned my game settings down and yet the lag spikes still acur ? also when the game is turned down or up it doesn't change my fps ?


Running games at 1080p on that setup i see, try turning down the settings to "Medium".
Or you can also try lowering the resolution you game at possibly to 1680x1050 or 1440x900.
There will be lag spikes in games, but you shouldn't be playing in slow motion.
Also check temperatures and usage. In skyrim you'll want GPU to be 99%. Report back with usage.

Download gpu-z for GPU temps and usage. and use windows task manager for cpu usage.
September 11, 2012 6:00:24 PM

6670 is too weak for 1080P. Try to lower your resolution.
September 11, 2012 6:57:51 PM

Regor245 said:
6670 is too weak for 1080P. Try to lower your resolution.


what resolution do you recommend ?
September 11, 2012 7:09:57 PM

yarmock said:
Running games at 1080p on that setup i see, try turning down the settings to "Medium".
Or you can also try lowering the resolution you game at possibly to 1680x1050 or 1440x900.
There will be lag spikes in games, but you shouldn't be playing in slow motion.
Also check temperatures and usage. In skyrim you'll want GPU to be 99%. Report back with usage.

Download gpu-z for GPU temps and usage. and use windows task manager for cpu usage.



gpu temp : 33

gpu usage : 14%

i double checked weather turning the graphics down would help my problem still lags just as much .
a b U Graphics card
September 11, 2012 7:10:00 PM

URBANHOOLIGAN said:
gpu temp : 33

gpu usage : 14%

i double checked weather turning the graphics down would help my problem still lags just as much .


Is this in game? Use something like the MSI Afterburner overlay to check
a b U Graphics card
September 11, 2012 7:10:28 PM

Anything thats got a 16:9 aspect ratio.

Start at 1280x720 and work your way up if its performing any better.
a b U Graphics card
September 11, 2012 7:10:52 PM

URBANHOOLIGAN said:
what resolution do you recommend ?


1680x1050. Possibly 1440x900 depending on title.
September 11, 2012 7:11:35 PM

yarmock said:
1680x1050. Possibly 1440x900 depending on title.


i found 1600x900 is nice ?
a b U Graphics card
September 11, 2012 7:12:55 PM

URBANHOOLIGAN said:
gpu temp : 33

gpu usage : 14%

i double checked weather turning the graphics down would help my problem still lags just as much .


Your gpu is only at 14% while gaming? That cant be right or your processor is holding you back big time.

On gpuz on the sensor screen check the box at the bottom that says continue to log.

Load up a game and run it for a few minutes, Then click on gpu load and click highest. Thats the number during gaming.
a b U Graphics card
September 11, 2012 7:23:20 PM

yarmock said:
1680x1050. Possibly 1440x900 depending on title.


These are both 16:10 aspect ratios
a b U Graphics card
September 11, 2012 7:29:45 PM

URBANHOOLIGAN said:
gpu usage : 34%



34% at 1080p or 1650x900?

Either way you GPU isn't fully being used, and I'm guessing your CPU is holding you back, or you have a bad Graphics Card.
Have you updated your GPU drivers from amd.com? Try that first make sure you have the latest.

September 11, 2012 7:29:57 PM

yarmock said:
Your gpu is only at 14% while gaming? That cant be right or your processor is holding you back big time.

On gpuz on the sensor screen check the box at the bottom that says continue to log.

Load up a game and run it for a few minutes, Then click on gpu load and click highest. Thats the number during gaming.



gpu usage : 34%
a b U Graphics card
September 11, 2012 7:30:09 PM

Well thats the problem there....should be 99% on skyrim with high detail. Your CPU is fine and is not bottlenecking that GPU

What drivers are you using?
September 11, 2012 7:32:19 PM

paddys09 said:
Well thats the problem there....should be 99% on skyrim with high detail. Your CPU is fine and is not bottlenecking that GPU

What drivers are you using?


im using the latest msi gpu drivers
a b U Graphics card
September 11, 2012 7:37:35 PM

As in 12.8?

Run driver sweeper and install from amd website:

http://support.amd.com/US/Pages/AMDSupportHub.aspx

Edit: Infact I think driver sweeper has been discontinued, there is a program called Driver Fusion now, sorry havent used anything like that in a while.
a b U Graphics card
September 11, 2012 7:40:43 PM

URBANHOOLIGAN said:
im using the latest msi gpu drivers


Go to www.amd.com and update. Latest catalyst is 12.8 i believe.

Also take a look at this screenshot... The 5770 is a little faster than a 6770 because it uses faster GDDR5 memory. So at 1680x1050 you should only expect about what the 5770 gives at high/very high. Lowering it should help alot, but dont expect 60fps in all honesty.

http://media.bestofmicro.com/T/W/326372/original/skyrim...

Hope this helps.
September 11, 2012 8:00:15 PM

its not just skyrim that lags its Minecraft(loads) tf2, portal , arma2 basically all of them , when i re install java all my programs run well then i restart my pc and comeback to a laggy pc that makes me want to kill somebody ^.^
September 11, 2012 8:04:52 PM

yarmock said:
Go to www.amd.com and update. Latest catalyst is 12.8 i believe.

Also take a look at this screenshot... The 5770 is a little faster than a 6770 because it uses faster GDDR5 memory. So at 1680x1050 you should only expect about what the 5770 gives at high/very high. Lowering it should help alot, but dont expect 60fps in all honesty.

http://media.bestofmicro.com/T/W/326372/original/skyrim...

Hope this helps.


im up to date , still no change :( 
September 11, 2012 8:11:50 PM

yarmock said:
34% at 1080p or 1650x900?

Either way you GPU isn't fully being used, and I'm guessing your CPU is holding you back, or you have a bad Graphics Card.
Have you updated your GPU drivers from amd.com? Try that first make sure you have the latest.


i have latest no change :/ 
a b U Graphics card
September 11, 2012 8:12:43 PM

URBANHOOLIGAN said:
im up to date , still no change :( 



Try lowering settings to medium/low. That GPU is underpowered for most games, depending on resolution and settings turned on during game play.

Turn AA off, etc. Lower view distance and similar settings.

Its also possible you have a bad card. Try putting it in a different system or using another card if you have one.
September 11, 2012 8:16:49 PM

yarmock said:
Try lowering settings to medium/low. That GPU is underpowered for most games, depending on resolution and settings turned on during game play.

Turn AA off, etc. Lower view distance and similar settings.

Its also possible you have a bad card. Try putting it in a different system or using another card if you have one.


as i said before when i lower the graphics nothing changes ? and i have no other graphics cards or systems , this is the second pc i have had after my other one got sent back :/ 
September 11, 2012 8:24:27 PM

So its unfixable , brilliant
September 11, 2012 8:26:59 PM

yarmock said:
Was it ever good? IE when you first installed windows, etc?


No it lagged like a b****
a b U Graphics card
September 11, 2012 8:27:20 PM

URBANHOOLIGAN said:
as i said before when i lower the graphics nothing changes ? and i have no other graphics cards or systems , this is the second pc i have had after my other one got sent back :/ 


Was it ever good? IE when you first installed windows, etc?
September 12, 2012 3:20:54 PM

yarmock said:
Was it ever good? IE when you first installed windows, etc?


could it be my windows ? i have windows 64bit home premium but its published by dell

September 12, 2012 3:46:49 PM

it only lags when playing games?
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