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November 9, 2012 5:00:18 PM

I wana say this is a great site, well im planning on building my 1st pc with a budget of arond300$ i dont play pc games i basically just for video conversion programs like convertxtodvd and that sort of stuff ive been reading alot and just thought id ask for some advice as far as what cpu mother board would best suit my needs im planing on going amd not going to overclock. Thanks any advice would be helpful.

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November 9, 2012 5:10:26 PM

So basically this is going to be raw processing power? Will there be little to no graphics demand in that?

If so, an i3 would be the right thing for you. I'm sure a video conversion program benefits from more cores, which has hyper threading and can give you more cores/threads. If not, you could get a phenom II x4, but imo, i would get an apu. a10-5800k, as it has more graphics power than any other processor on the market.
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November 9, 2012 5:29:07 PM

^ Agree. For what you need I would think the AMD A10-5800K would be what you need also. It will give you the CPU power you need and good graphics power to boot.
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November 9, 2012 5:39:05 PM

lchrisk said:
So basically this is going to be raw processing power? Will there be little to no graphics demand in that?

If so, an i3 would be the right thing for you. I'm sure a video conversion program benefits from more cores, which has hyper threading and can give you more cores. If not, you could get a phenom II x4, but imo, i would get an apu. a10-5800k, as it has more graphics power than any other processor on the market.

Thanks for ur reply yes its basically for processing avi files and doing other tasks, what do u think of this setup i found at tigerdirect. http://m.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-...
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November 9, 2012 5:57:08 PM

While there may be value there the psu sucks. I would guess the case and mobo are not great either.

You would still need a hard drive $50 and a dvd drive $20.
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November 9, 2012 5:57:56 PM

Find out if any of the conversion programs you plan to use benefit from Intel's QuickSync. If so, that knocks AMD off the table, because QuickSync is fast; typically much faster even than GPU-accelerated processing.
OTOH, if the programs don't use QuickSync, see if they can use AMD or nVidia for GPGPU processing. If so, CPU power won't matter as much.
That last AMD deal looks ok, BUT...you'd need to replace the liar-labeled PSU it includes with a real one (such as a 380W Antec Earthwatts) in order to add a graphics card (not for games, but for GPGPU processing). Something like a HD7770 would be good. Also, that low-end Biostar mobo may have cheap electrolytics on it that won't have the durability that even budget ASRock boards offer.
Avoid the Corsair Builder V2 PSUs. The original Builder was made by Seasonic, and was decent. The new ones review well too, but are built by CWT using inferior Samxon capacitors from a product line known to experience early failures. Links available on request.
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November 9, 2012 6:05:05 PM

I request those links.

He could afford the psu swap with the package. but I was looking for a well reviewed, decent, and cheap psu. $300 is not much to work with.
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November 9, 2012 6:09:27 PM

Ok. Start here: http://forums.hardwaresecrets.com/not-so-tough/8805 and follow the link there onto the badcaps.org forum.
This kind of thing, while not dishonest (just low quality), has me generally restricting my PSU purchases (and recommendations) to Seasonic-built units.
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November 9, 2012 6:15:48 PM

jackspeed said:
I request those links.

He could afford the psu swap with the package. but I was looking for a well reviewed, decent, and cheap psu. $300 is not much to work with.

Thanks as u said 300$ hard to work with ima go for 400$ build now as far as as a dvd burner i dont need that so i can use that extra cash on something else in the build thanks for ur help guys. :hello: 
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November 9, 2012 6:29:45 PM

At this point, suggesting refinements will really depend on what you find out about your conversion programs. If it/they can use QuickSync, put your money into an i3 build; there's a $145 CPU that has HD4000 on it. If not, find out if it/they can use GPU accelerated processing, and, if so, if they favor AMD or nVidia. One thing to keep in mind here though, nVidia's Kepler cards have crippled compute performance. If your program or programs favors nVidia, you'd want a last-generation GTX5xx, not a GTX6xx.
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November 9, 2012 6:31:08 PM

benny1234 said:
Thanks as u said 300$ hard to work with ima go for 400$ build now as far as as a dvd burner i dont need that so i can use that extra cash on something else in the build thanks for ur help guys. :hello: 



Ok so does that mean you are going to use a usb drive to install your os? Do you have an OS? do we need to include a flash drive in the price?
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November 9, 2012 6:43:13 PM

$313.93 full setup (not including shipping and handling) and you get $25 in MIR and an immediate $5 discount...
Idk if it is ideal, but if you want fast and cheap, this is a possibility.

AMD A10-5800k w/ ASRock A75 micro ATX combo ($172.98)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
Asus DVD burner - $16.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Refurb Gigabyte Tower - ($19.99)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Refurb WD 160GB 7200RPM ($39.99)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Corsair Builder Series 430W 80+ Bronze ($44.99) (minus $25 after MIR and $5 instant)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Crucial Ballistix 4GB @ 1600Mhz ($18.99)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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November 9, 2012 7:09:22 PM

Build your own desktop. It's simple as long as you follow directions and take precautions.

Assuming your from the u.s.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/n4Wn
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/n4Wn/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/n4Wn/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD A10-5800K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor ($124.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: MSI FM2-A55M-E33 Micro ATX FM2 Motherboard ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Scorpio Blue 320GB 2.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $274.95
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-11-09 16:08 EST-0500)

Also, get this case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Use the promo code and you will get $10 off too.
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November 9, 2012 7:27:41 PM

jackspeed said:
Ok so does that mean you are going to use a usb drive to install your os? Do you have an OS? do we need to include a flash drive in the price?

Thanks for everyones help, yes i have a dvd burner already and i have windows 7 also.
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November 9, 2012 7:32:48 PM

eddie jr said:
$313.93 full setup (not including shipping and handling) and you get $25 in MIR and an immediate $5 discount...
Idk if it is ideal, but if you want fast and cheap, this is a possibility.
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AMD A10-5800k w/ ASRock A75 micro ATX combo ($172.98)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
Asus DVD burner - $16.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Refurb Gigabyte Tower - ($19.99)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Refurb WD 160GB 7200RPM ($39.99)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Corsair Builder Series 430W 80+ Bronze ($44.99) (minus $25 after MIR and $5 instant)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Crucial Ballistix 4GB @ 1600Mhz ($18.99)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

The CPU/mobo combo there looks decent, assuming QuickSync isn't wanted.
For video files, 160GB will be tiny. The drive will also probably get a workout, so I wouldn't choose refurbished.
No to the V2 Builder; links above.
For video work, 4GB might be sparse, but it's a start.

lchrisk said:
Build your own desktop. It's simple as long as you follow directions and take precautions.

Assuming your from the u.s.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/n4Wn
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/n4Wn/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/n4Wn/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD A10-5800K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor ($124.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: MSI FM2-A55M-E33 Micro ATX FM2 Motherboard ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Scorpio Blue 320GB 2.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $274.95
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-11-09 16:08 EST-0500)

Also, get this case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Use the promo code and you will get $10 off too.

Again, the CPU may be fine, if QuickSync isn't wanted.
Cheap MSI mobos are built with weak VRMs, that may pop under load. Regrettably, I don't have the supporting links here at work, and a Sticky here on the forums that had them, and other good information on VRMs, was lost when its creator was banned. With an unlocked CPU, this is of particular concern. Asus, ASRock, or Gigabyte would be better choices.
That laptop drive will be muttly, especially for working with big files. I realize the budget won't support a SSD, but right now $80 will buy a nice fast new 1TB WD Black drive, one of the few drives to have retained a five year warranty. At the very least, get a 7200RPM 3.5" Desktop hard drive.
Again, "No" to the V2 Builder; it's cheap for a reason. $45 will buy a 380W Antec Earthwatts, which will be sufficient, even if a video card like a HD7770 is added.
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November 10, 2012 1:24:38 AM

Best answer selected by Benny1234.
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November 10, 2012 2:02:59 AM

Thanks, although I do believe it was a joint effort (as it often is on these forums).
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