Looking for prebuilt computer advice

[Venturur]

anything under 1.5k(1500$ canadian)
currently live in canada just so theres no confusion.


http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product/cyberpowerpc-cyberpowerpc-gamer-supreme-windows-8-amd-fx-8120-16gb-ram-120gb-ssd-2tb-hdd-gaming-pc-english-slc4000/10228098.aspx?path=7f0f5b0a513e6439571b235af5317a0ben02
http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product/hewlett-packard-hp-pavilion-hpe-phoenix-h9-windows-8-intel-core-i7-3770k-16gb-128gb-ssd-2tb-hdd-desktop-computer-h9-1387/10226768.aspx?path=9aa4943454bab73371b484554691eb90en02
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3844134&CatId=114
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2577777&CatId=114

hopefully those links work; but these are a few i found on my own, but i have no idea what im looking at i just want to try and help move the process along, if these aren't good choices feel free to ignore them.
what im hoping for is something i dont need to replace for 4+ years, and will run just about any current game on at least medium graphics while im using dual screens, because i know the machine i have now runs pretty hot, and even shut itself off this summer when we didn't have the air conditioning on.
I tried to leave a $ gap on a few of the ones i picked out encase it was possible to take one of those and just add in something it is lacking. thanks for any help.
Im sure it was obvious from what ive said but next to zero computer knowledge, and i know it would be better and cheaper to build my own but thats not something im interested in right now
this is all the info i can find for the one im running right now i dont know if this helps you or not.
Amd athlon II X3 440 processor, 3000 mhz 3 core
Geforce 8800 GTS
4 gigs of ram
windows 7 64 home premium

 

[tiny voices]

What will this computer be primarily used for?

 

[Venturur]

black ops 2 60+ fps would be nice, but general gaming occasionally resub to WoW, Rift, thinking about buying Ns2, stuff like that

 

[tiny voices]

Would you consider building one yourself? You will get MUCH more for your money.

 

[Venturur]

im absolutely willing to get a prebuilt one and then upgrade a few things but as far as buying everything then building it no id rather not, Im hoping the amount of money im willing to spend will counter act the prebuilt/build it yourself factor as least a little

 

[tiny voices]

unfortunately spending more money won't counteract the build/bought factor. You will still get much more for your money if you build. probably 2x the gaming power, if not more.

 

[jackspeed]

im absolutely willing to get a prebuilt one and then upgrade a few things but as far as buying everything then building it no id rather not, Im hoping the amount of money im willing to spend will counter act the prebuilt/build it yourself factor as least a little

http://www.xoticpc.com they ship to canada or atleast there laptops do.


Otherwise this is a decent pc realistically it could use a SSD.
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883229387

Edit: do not know why i hit reply sorry

 

[DarkSable]

Venturur, it's also extremely easy to build a computer yourself, and only takes an hour or two. I know it's intimidating, but being able to run any game on ultra at 60+ fps... isn't that better than medium at ~40?

Also, it a LOT harder to mess things up than you may thing, if you have a youtube video up and follow the instructions, pausing to take actions.

 

[jackspeed]

Venturur, it's also extremely easy to build a computer yourself, and only takes an hour or two. I know it's intimidating, but being able to run any game on ultra at 60+ fps... isn't that better than medium at ~40?

Also, it a LOT harder to mess things up than you may thing, if you have a youtube video up and follow the instructions, pausing to take actions.

Its true that it is easy to us. And may be to him but... it is a risk. Also you need a computer to watch the youtube videos.

 

[tiny voices]

http://www.xoticpc.com they ship to canada or atleast there laptops do.


Otherwise this is a decent pc realistically it could use a SSD.
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883229387

Edit: do not know why i hit reply sorry

I wouldn't buy this. It has windows 8 which I don't like. Also, for $1200 you can get a much better system with better GPU and a reliable PSU and a good SSD.

 

[tiny voices]

http://pcpartpicker.com/ca/p/n4JL

This will blow away all the prebuilts posted.

 

[jackspeed]

I wouldn't buy this. It has windows 8 which I don't like. Also, for $1200 you can get a much better system with better GPU and a reliable PSU and a good SSD.

Ok I was giving a suggestion what would you buy? NOT BUILD. Windows 8 is not bad its just weird and wrong. Compared to his other options he could get a ssd and windows 7 and still have a better machine.

 

[jackspeed]

http://pcpartpicker.com/ca/p/n4JL

This will blow away all the prebuilts posted.

With the extra room in budget I would get a better psu. From what i've been hearing the corsair builder series v2 could have better caps.

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371044

 

[Venturur]

With the extra room in budget I would get a better psu. From what i've been hearing the corsair builder series v2 could have better caps.

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371044

Assuming i bite the bullet and go with this is there any benefit to adding a second graphics card

tried to get the quote in your quote in the message too, but everyone can scroll up

 

[tiny voices]

Not really for now. If you want more power, replace the 7950 with a 7970 or a a gtx 670. If from there you want more power, then you could add a second card.

 

[jackspeed]

Yes and no. Do you plan on playing games with multiple monitors if yes then yes. if not the 7950 is good enough. I will come up with a list that if you want to build.

 

[Venturur]

yes dual monitors, and ill build it if i have to, to get the results/for the money im working with.

 

[jackspeed]

Parts picker could not find the hard drive from newegg. but heres my suggestion, from get the case from direct canada as they will have free shipping.

http://pcpartpicker.com/ca/p/n4TO

and this HDD
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822145304

 

[jackspeed]

ooc what games do you play with dual monitors? The split would annoy the heck out of me. I can understand 3 but 2 the spit is at the cross hairs.

 

[Venturur]

Lasted about 32 days.
1 out of 5 eggs

“Seemed pretty good to start but right around 32 days it started showing problems. "

is the second comment on that HDD, worrying

 

[Venturur]

get the case from direct canada as they will have free shipping.

http://www.directcanada.com/category/?minorcatid=1517
how do i know what case will fit everything else im buying or will just about any fit everything;

or is the case in the other link shippable and im just confused?

 

[jackspeed]

Lasted about 32 days.
1 out of 5 eggs

“Seemed pretty good to start but right around 32 days it started showing problems. "

is the second comment on that HDD, worrying

Problem with review is that 20% negative does not mean 20% negative. If I have a terrible product I am more likely to review it. but you can go with the western digital, I was pointing out options, and I also included a bigger ssd so the slightly slower load rate wasn't terrible worried.

Edit at the case the antec 302 is good, as is the antec 1. I suggested the antec one, but it may not have free shipping from the website parts picker assigned.

 

[tiny voices]

any case that say ATX will fit. Generally people use atx mid towers. but you could do a full atx tower.

 

[J_E_D_70]

Do you have bezel-less monitors? Playing FPSs on dual screens with a break in the middle would drive me nuts

Could also check CyberPower. My previous two PCs were from them and were excellent for the price.