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November 10, 2012 12:48:29 AM

Hello there,

I am trying to make a new build and I can't for the life of me actually settle on a system. I recently made the mistake of doing an AMD theme build. The problem is I wish desperately that I would have just purchased an Intel processor to begin with, the FX4170 isn't cutting it compared to my friends 3770K. I will definitely be making a new build and selling the old one. From that build I will be using my 1TB 7200RPM Data drive, 16Gb 1866Mhz G.skillz X RAM and possibly my reference 7970. Also I will be running multi monitor display since I have 3 22inch LED's already and I will not need a Mouse/Keyboard. Only Core components in the $3,000 budget. I want to go big though. Future proof the crap out of this system and maximize my gaming experience.

I definitely have decided on the Intel 520 SSD and a Republic of Gamers motherboard. Either the Rampage or the Maximus, since eventually I want to do Quad GPU and I want to have the 8 ram slots. Another issue that has arisen; word on the street is that the ASUS republic of Gamers X79 motherboards are terrible with AMD products.

My main conflicts are:

3770K VS 3820 VS 3930K VS 3960X. (Will be over clocking)

More 7970's for CrossfireX or get two 680 4Gb for SLI to start. (Most likely will not OC)

Cooling system: Liquid CPU VS FAN CPU VS A loop including the GPU's.

I mainly will be playing RIFT and possibly Black Ops II. I'm not a multi-game type of Gamer.

Any feedback/advice would be greatly appreciated. I have looked on Digitalstorm, Cyberpower, and iBuypower and have some decent builds but between reviews, rumors, and currently being deployed I am torn about what to actually do. Thanks

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November 10, 2012 1:29:59 AM

bacusat said:
the FX4170 isn't cutting it compared to my friends 3770K.Thanks


Wouldnt that be fairly obvious given the massive difference in price between the two?

If all you are doing is gaming, there is absolutely no need to spend three grand on a system. Half that will get you a cutting edge gaming system (from scratch).
If you want to spend that money constructively (what you are planning so far will net no benefit), here's how I would do it.
$1000 would go to a new CPU (no more than a 3570k), mobo and another 7970 (dual cards).
$500 for liquid cooling.
$1500 on an Eyefinity setup and good peripherals (mechanical Keyboard, good mouse and such).

More than likely you will end up with ~$1000 left over, spend that on a good desk if you really have to.
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November 10, 2012 1:53:01 AM

I'd get this

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U12P SE2 54.4 CFM CPU Cooler ($75.98 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V PRO ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($208.49 @ Newegg)
Storage: Mushkin Chronos Deluxe 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($174.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition 3GB Video Card (CrossFire) ($444.98 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition 3GB Video Card (CrossFire) ($444.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master HAF X Blue ATX Full Tower Case ($234.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 850W 80 PLUS Silver Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($136.82 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1959.20
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-11-09 22:52 EST-0500)
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November 10, 2012 2:07:30 AM

^not asking for a system, just the core components.

I think he wants to find a way to spend $3000 on a CPU, mobo and cooling.
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November 10, 2012 2:13:21 AM

manofchalk said:
^not asking for a system, just the core components.

I think he wants to find a way to spend $3000 on a CPU, mobo and cooling.
:heink:  o.k. thanks for heads up.He really should just get something like this and ditch whatever he doesn't need http://pcpartpicker.com/p/lJPh
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November 10, 2012 2:29:21 AM

I am asking for advice on a system but advice on the items I have in mind, not down scaling for performance/price balance. I am not interested in "you can save X amount seeing almost no decrease in performance!" I would rather spend X amount and not see the miniscule decrease in performance or run into hardware compatibility issues with items that "should" work in theory and manufacturers saying they are close to a fix. Like the X79 Chipset boards not working well with Any AMD 7xxx series GPU. With all the stutter/poor scaling of CrossfireX in RIFT (my game of choice) I am pretty set on two GeForce 680 4Gb for the Surround gaming performance on three monitors.

Thanks for the advice so far but As I said I'm also set on the Intel 520 120Gb(or larger) SSD as a boot drive (unless there is a better performing one out there) and either the Rampage or Maximus ASUS mother boards:

ASUS Rampage IV Extreme (Intel X79) or ASUS Maximus V EXTREME (Intel Z77)

I do not want to nor need to balance price and performance. I want performance now and the ability to upgrade later like with those two mother boards being able to quad SLI/CrossfireX. I also don't need to budget an i5 3570k. I will be getting one of the 4 CPU's that I listed in the original post I am just conflicted between the different boards and CPU's. I do not need to skimp at all on core components due to having a large desk and chair I love, 3 monitors mounted on a sweet stand, and gaming peripherals (keyboard/mouse/headset).

With those mother boards I could add 16Gb more of the same RAM I already have to make it 32Gb.

I could get a blu-ray drive and other things in the bays like fan controls/temp read outs

Power supplies I'm not sure on what is a really good brand or an actual recommended Wattage for 680's in SLI with keeping in mind the future quad 680's.

And I have never messed with a any form of liquid cooling and would like a great looking/performing case.

So again I am asking advice on a full system but with certain parameters in mind, budget components, not being one of them.
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November 10, 2012 2:31:39 AM

I do appreciate all responses I just have certain things in mind that I know I want. Others I am torn on.
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November 10, 2012 2:36:59 AM

Ok. For me, I would go with ivy bridge. Sandy bridge E isnt as good at gaming as ivy bridge.

i7 3770k( highest ivy bridge)
4x gtx 680/2x gtx 690/1x gtx 690
asus p8z77 WS (4 way capable motherboard)
8gb ram
H100

Take and pick any of the parts you want. I would go for the p8z77 WS than the ROG board. The WS has more features that I like and is cheaper.

And you obviously do not know what you are talking about
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November 10, 2012 2:48:21 AM

Where have you heard that AMD cards dont work with X79?

OCZ Vertex 4 or Samsung 830 are both faster (and likely cheaper) than the 520.

Just be aware that you are going to be wasting a lot of money for near zero benefit. You can downgrade quite a bit and have equivalent performance.

Given the desire for quad SLI/Crossfire, the X79 platform is where you want to be. Of the CPU's listed, would go for the 3930K.

A good brand (XFX, Seasonic, Corsair) 1200W will support a Quad setup quite nicely. Get one you like the look of, as at this high end they are all going to have the same features and quality.

Drop into the water-cooling forum, they will be able to help you on custom watercooling.
For a Quad SLI/Crossfire setup, you will need a pretty large case. Something like an 850D, HAF-X or specialist case from somewhere like Danger Den or CaseLabs.
In fact, this is probably the best option unless you want to consider an external radbox (you will need a lot of radiator if you are going to water-cool the cards as well, estimate at least two 360mm's and a 240mm XSPC EX rads.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBDTBHVIJiA
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November 10, 2012 3:02:44 AM

ThatsMyNameDude said:
Ok. For me, I would go with ivy bridge. Sandy bridge E isnt as good at gaming as ivy bridge.

Oh god, what a valuable information.
ThatsMyNameDude said:
And you obviously do not know what you are talking about

Really, you did well with this one.
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November 10, 2012 3:03:00 AM

SLI and Crossfire are a waste of money and effort. Fact: games are built for console. Even if the developers have PC in mind with DirectX 11 and high-res textures etc, SLI/Crossfire is the last thing they will support. Its niche and a waste. You will have an excellent $3000 setup with a AAA game one day . . . . that you can't play unless SLI/Crossfire is patched in or patched up . . . . which might never happen.

BLOPSII won't need anything major to make it out. Its still based on the creaky old IW engine, even though its been "upgraded" (HA!) with DirectX 11 and 10 support.
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November 10, 2012 3:04:44 AM

ilysaml said:
You're an Expert with a Gold GFX badge and recommending 4 GTX 680s? :) 
:lol:  i don't recommend it the guy is set on it there is a difference don't you think ? I think it's a bad idea personally but it's not my money or my build. ;) 
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November 10, 2012 3:09:14 AM

bigcyco1 said:
:lol:  i don't recommend it the guy is set on it there is a difference don't you think ? I think it's a bad idea personally but it's not my money or my build. ;) 

Whatever, at least you should give a reasonable opinion and suggestion, not to throw it away just because the dude got money.
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November 10, 2012 3:12:51 AM

ilysaml said:
Whatever, at least you should give a reasonable opinion and suggestion, not to throw it away just because the dude got money.
I know what you mean. but i gave that with a parts recommendation he reply pretty against it nothing more to be said i am not going to beg him not to waste his money :lol: 
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November 10, 2012 3:15:15 AM

bigcyco1 said:
I know what you mean. but i gave that with a parts recommendation he reply pretty against it nothing more to be said i am not going to beg him not to waste his money :lol: 

Still doesn't justify your situation from the very first post :p  :lol: 
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November 10, 2012 3:19:34 AM

ilysaml said:
Still doesn't justify your situation from the very first post :p  :lol: 
I am not in a situation and that is your opinion which your entitled to as am i there no point in debating it :lol: 
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