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November 10, 2012 10:53:27 AM

Hi all,

All system

Country: Czech Republic (UE)
Prices from czech Korunas, all products in shop http://interlink.tsbohemia.cz/.
Check competence in Heureka.cz

BUDGET: Open from 800-1300$. I dont want the best graphics. I want keep gaming without be obsolete in more than 5 years. (With my 5years old Vaio I still play in low resolution TF2, CoH, All Total war, some games with bit of lagging.


This is what i have close to be sure , but I accept corrections



GPU: Sapphire HD7850 PCIe 2GB DDR5/256bit 860/4800MHz DVI, HDMI, DP 4487 czk (224. $)

CASE: CoolerMaster Elite 370,ATX, 982 czk ( 49 $ )

COYIntel Core i5 3470 3,20GHz (6MB) BOX LGA1155 4 483 Kč (223$)

HDD: SEAGATE Barracuda 1TB SATA/600, 7200RPM, 64MB cache 1 763 Kč (85$)

CPU COOLER: Arctic-Cool. Freezer 7 Pro Rev.2 462 kc (24$)

RAM: 8 GB DIMM DDR3 de 1600MHz Kingston 911 ck (45$)


This is the rest what I need support for choose

-Gigabyte H77-H77 DS3H S1155 I am not sure if it s compatible or appropiate 1876 (93$)


-I was thinking in 60 gigabytes OCZ SSD SATA3 but it not on stock. Other product or i dont need it? 1500 ck (75$)


TOTAL PRICE 16691 CK (835.925$) Without CPU and monitor


- PSU: I have NO IDEA about PSU, please help

-Monitor: No idea about monitor. between 23 and 27. No other screen for watch movies at home.

-Speakers: Genius SP-HF2020 1600 ck (80$)



Thank you all!
November 10, 2012 7:24:19 PM

Motherboard and processor are fine together. You don't need cooler, the stock cooler, supplied with processor (I assume it is retail version) is adequate. Aftermarket cooler may be quieter, than stock, but that's all.
An SSD is a nice addition, but not essential. If getting one, OCZ Vertex4, Samsung 830, or Crucial M4 are good, some others are rubbish, by comparason.
Case is not brilliant, but OK.
With Kingston RAM, be sure to get 1.5v, or below, not 1.65v.
The MSI TwinFrozr version of the HD7850 is best, if available, but Sapphire is OK. HD7870 is good bit better, if budget will allow.
For monitor, there are so many, it's difficult to advise. If you want to watch movies on it, suggest you get one with IPS panel. For gaming, ideally you want 5ms response time or lower. Asus, Dell and Viewsonic have some nice ones, but honestly the only way is to pick a couple in right size/price range, and read some expert reviews. ALL have good and bad points.
For PSU, I would suggest 550w. XFX, Seasonic, Corsair, Antec, BeQuiet, PC Power&Cooling all good makes. Avoid others, unless checking here first.
November 11, 2012 11:13:07 AM

Thanks for your reply.

-Please confirm me the SDD, (many models and problems with translator). http://interlink.tsbohemia.cz/pevny-disk-crucial-sata-2... U mean that one? I think is better 64, only for system, 128 means system+ few stuff and 264 systema but some stuff.

-I have open budget, but as I said I would prefeer to spend as less as possible.


-Are you sure with 550W would work? All new builds in tomshardware with 7850+3470 has 650. But Barebone for similar hass 500... What i have clear is that i dont understand nothing.

- Regarding 7850 from MSI. It is OC isnt it? I have no idea but my engenier friend who is helping me told me is better without OC. In case is not in the shopp were is the best price http://interlink.tsbohemia.cz/default.asp?cls=stoitems&... in czech republic There is only Sapphire, gygabite and asus. Worth to go to other shop?

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November 11, 2012 11:44:50 AM

For most people the 128GB is the best size, for SSD. More practical, and better value (GB/Euro). This is the best one, that is probably available. The OCZ Vertex 4 is also very good, if you can get it.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

Storage: Samsung 830 Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (€93.78 @ Amazon France)
Total: €93.78
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-11-11 14:32 CET+0100)

The Crucial M4, whilst not quite as good, is also OK, but 128GB is better than the size in your link.

For graphics card, factory overclock is different than overclock, you do yourself. Factory overclock is guaranteed, and, because they have to give that guarantee, they tend to use better quality components. You can overclock, further, yourself, if you wish (most people do), but you have to consider that doing so will probably reduce life of GPU. It's a question of "balance" between performance, and reliability.
Of the graphics cards, you listed, would prefer Gigabyte; generally better cooling, quieter.
550w is plenty, for PSU. There is nothing WRONG with getting slightly more, if economic, and gives you greater peace of mind. Far more important is QUALITY. XFX, Seasonic, Corsair, Antec, BeQuiet, PC Power&Cooling all generally good, but some others are total rubbish. A bad one can fail, and destroy the rest of your components, with it.
November 11, 2012 12:26:11 PM

idiosincrasia said:
-Please confirm me the SDD, (many models and problems with translator). http://interlink.tsbohemia.cz/pevny-disk-crucial-sata-2... U mean that one? I think is better 64, only for system, 128 means system+ few stuff and 264 systema but some stuff.

Yes that is a good choice for an SSD.

idiosincrasia said:
-Are you sure with 550W would work? All new builds in tomshardware with 7850+3470 has 650. But Barebone for similar hass 500... What i have clear is that i dont understand nothing.

Normal systems with 7850s are unlikely to have power consumption above 200W. So even a 450W PSU is more than enough.
I would suggest:
OCZ ZS Series 550W (1 470,- Kč)
http://interlink.tsbohemia.cz/zdroj-ocz-zx-series-550w_...
Or
Seasonic SSP-550RT (1 641,- Kč)
http://interlink.tsbohemia.cz/seasonic-ssp-550-rt-550w-...

If you want a modular PSU, then I'd suggest this:
Seasonic G-450 (1 901,- Kč)
http://interlink.tsbohemia.cz/seasonic-g-450-450w-gold-...

idiosincrasia said:
- Regarding 7850 from MSI. It is OC isnt it? I have no idea but my engenier friend who is helping me told me is better without OC. In case is not in the shopp were is the best price http://interlink.tsbohemia.cz/default.asp?cls=stoitems&... in czech republic There is only Sapphire, gygabite and asus. Worth to go to other shop?

One of the reasons why people recommend graphics cards which are not factory OC'd is that often you can overclock a card yourself to match or beat the performance of a factory OC'd card. In that case it can be better to save the money. However if the price difference is not significant then I don't know of other good reasons not to get a factory OC'd card.
November 11, 2012 1:16:53 PM

If not overclocking GPU and using locked processor, you can get away with 450w, if there's a good one available, but would recommend having a bit "in hand", to allow for a bit of OC, additions/upgrades, and for when PSU starts to tail-off with age. 500w is OK, but "usually" the XFX 550w is a good deal, for decent quality, and is not "over-sized". If available, where OC is, BeQuiet, I believe do a 530w, which would also be a good choice.
November 11, 2012 2:48:54 PM

malbluff said:

With Kingston RAM, be sure to get 1.5v, or below, not 1.65v.


I have not idea but i will ask my friend

November 11, 2012 5:59:35 PM

Seasonic PSUs are all quite good, but that series is a basic OEM version. They are "intended" for PC builders, so "no frills". You don't need 600w. I've had a look on that site and all the good PSUs are Seasonic. The very best is the X560, but that is priced at 2390. Excellent, but perhaps expensive. What I think would be more sensible is either the S12ll 520 @ 1598, or the M12ll 520 @ 1808. Both are top quality, and plenty of wattage. The M version has the advantage of being modular, so easier/neater to instal, especially if inexperienced.

Regarding RAM voltage, it should say, in the RAM details, what voltage they use. 1.5v is most common, and OK. Some Kingston RAMs are 1.65v, which is higher than ideal, and best avoided.
November 11, 2012 8:23:10 PM

malbluff said:
If not overclocking GPU and using locked processor, you can get away with 450w, if there's a good one available, but would recommend having a bit "in hand", to allow for a bit of OC, additions/upgrades, and for when PSU starts to tail-off with age. 500w is OK, but "usually" the XFX 550w is a good deal, for decent quality, and is not "over-sized". If available, where OC is, BeQuiet, I believe do a 530w, which would also be a good choice.

Leaving room for upgrades is about the only good reason to oversize a PSU. Capacitor aging, which is what I think you are referring to is not going to be a significant factor in these modern, efficient, high quality, well cooled units.

idiosincrasia said:
My friend recommend me this one http://interlink.tsbohemia.cz/seas [...] 48131.html

There is no reason that I'm aware of to get the SS-600ET over the ZS Series 550W unit which I recommended. The OCZ unit I suggested is better because it is independantly regulated (vs group on the SS-600ET). I suspect it is quieter. It uses all Japanese capacitors, whereas the SS-600ET uses Taiwanese as well as Japanese caps.

Reviews for OCZ ZS Series 550W:
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cases/display/psu-520w...
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=...
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