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November 10, 2012 3:39:02 PM

Approximate Purchase Date: Beginning of next year.

Budget Range: (1000-1200 euros)

System Usage from Most to Least Important: gaming, surfing the internet, watching movies.

Are you buying a monitor: No, it will be connected by hdmi to a full hd tv.

Do you need to buy OS: No

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: I will buy it at a store.

Location: Porto, portugal.

Parts Preferences: by brand or type: I would like a Intel CPU)

Overclocking: No

SLI or Crossfire: No

Your Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080, its a Full HD TV with HDMI connection.

Additional Comments: I would like a low power consumption and very quiet HTPC. I will use windows 7 and will play RPG´s most of the time and see 3D movies.

Thank you very much.

PS - I will post my configuration soon for your evaluation.

More about : silent htpc games movies

November 10, 2012 4:35:48 PM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($127.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory
Storage: Hitachi Deskstar 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
Storage: OCZ Vertex 4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($104.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB Video Card ($251.97 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 431 Plus (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($62.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($65.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $851.88
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-11-10 13:32 EST-0500)
November 10, 2012 5:22:58 PM

Thank you for your help.
I´m going to buy at a local store near my home.
I was thinking the following configuration:

ANTEC FUSION REMOTE MAX BLACK - 208,99 euros
GIGABYTE - Z77X-UP4 TH 221,99 euros
SEASONIC X-460 FL - 155,40 euros
CORSAIR - MEMORIA DDR3 16GB 2x8GB PC 1600 Vengeance Black Heatspreader - 83,99 euros
OCZ - SSD 256GB VERTEX 4 - 266,99 euros
INTEL - Core i7-3770S/3.1GHz 8MB LGA1155 65W - 335,99 euros
ASUS - HD7950-DC2T-3GD5-V2 - 382 euros

The motherboard have thunderbolt, i want one with that.
I will play 3d games and blu-ray movies.
It has to be very silent and very efficient, not consuming to much energy.


Thank you very much.
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November 10, 2012 5:28:01 PM

I wasn't saying get them from newegg, rather just naming parts he could get from his local store, what is it about that that is so difficult?
November 10, 2012 5:30:25 PM

OK, I would recommend getting a 128gb SSD rather than a 256gb and then get another 1tb 7200 HDD, also most games can't utilize more than 8gb ram so getting more is a bit pointless and make sure the ram you get is low profile ram to avoid future problems if you upgrade to a better CPU cooler, other than that sounds like a great build.
November 10, 2012 5:48:26 PM

Do you think the X-460 FL is sufficient? It is fanless. Don´t you think that will come a problem?

G.SKILL - Ripjaws-X DDR3 1600MHz 2x 8GB CL10 XL - 122,99 euros. Is these fine?

OCZ VERTEX 4 128GB SSD 2.5" SATA III - 110,10 euros. Is this fine?

WESTERN DIGITAL GREEN 1TB 7200RPM 32MB SATA II 3.5" - 96,65 euros. Is this ok?

The CPU cooler i dont know... it has to be lo profile and very quiet.

Thank you.








November 10, 2012 6:03:13 PM

AMD recommends a 500W PSU for your GPU, that ram is very good, 1 x 8gb would be better in my opinion though, leaves room to upgrade, plus games can't use more than 8gb ram. Yeah the Vertex 4 is very good, the WD 1TB drive is also good. I recommend the CoolerMaster 212 EVO as the CPU Cooler, it is cheap, very quiet, good cooling and low profile.
November 10, 2012 6:27:15 PM

G.SKILL PC3-12800 1600MHZ RIPJAWSX 16GB CL10 (2X8GB) DDR3 - 68,30 euros. Is This Good?
The CoolerMaster 212 EVO doesn't look like a low profile.
ARCTIC-COOLING ALPINE 11 REV. 2, is this good?
November 10, 2012 6:33:58 PM

your configuration i a bit overkill.

it is good that you change some things.


GPU : you need a gpu which will play rpg games at high settings and play 3d content on ur T.V.

my opinion is to get nvidia for 3d for better optimization of 3d. amd is good for price vs performance.

for nvidia a 660ti will be enough for the needs.

in amd a 7870 is enough.

CPU cooler : as you ask for a silent pc is it gonna be in tight spaces?

for silent cooling opt for some good cpu coolers or liquid coolers might do the job

coolermaster 212 evo is a good example(its a bit old and try to find a similar but newer model).

for liquid coling corsair H80 , H100 , etc will get it very silent even if u oc your cpu.


STORAGE : it will e better to get a 128gb ssd + 1tb hdd combo rather than 256 gb ssd.

you can even combine it (like apple fusion drive(somewhat)) or install os , software on ssd and remaining on your hdd.


in ssd get crusial samsung intel etc ssd

in hdd wd blue or seagate baracuda will do

note --- wd green is a 5400 slow green drive it is also quite. But 7200 rpm hdd are also very quite


ram is good no problem in getting 16 gb of ram getting future proof. also ram is cheap.

PSu if you downgrade the gpu you can use the fanless series of psu of seasonic. the are safe anf the are fanless as the are extremely efficient so dont produce a lot of heat. i will be a better choise to get a psu with fan because if the air circilation or flow in your chassy is not proper then it might get heated. get seasonic psu because they are the best....



thats all i want to suggest...

good luck with your build
November 10, 2012 6:38:25 PM

sorry for my typing mistakes
November 10, 2012 6:39:35 PM

Avirhel said:
G.SKILL PC3-12800 1600MHZ RIPJAWSX 16GB CL10 (2X8GB) DDR3 - 68,30 euros. Is This Good?
The CoolerMaster 212 EVO doesn't look like a low profile.
ARCTIC-COOLING ALPINE 11 REV. 2, is this good?


get the corsair h60 or so it can be fitted in tight spaces.
November 10, 2012 7:54:33 PM

Yes, you will need a PSU with a fan if you are going to run a mid-level GPU in a little HTPC-type case. The 7850 might be fine with the fanless PSU, but then you would need to have the fans in the case anyway.

A Seasonic X-series PSU would be fine here. They operate in fanless mode until they get warm enough to need a fan.

I have a list here that includes your country.
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/358998-31-worldwide-o...

November 10, 2012 8:40:07 PM

The nvidia 660 Ti isn't better? Ok ... with a fan PSU in this case....
November 11, 2012 7:17:27 PM

I've come up with some changes from most of those suggestions. Please tell me what you think about it.

Case: ANTEC FUSION REMOTE MAX BLACK
Motherboard: GIGABYTE - Z77X-UP4 TH
Power Supply: SEASONIC X-660
CPU: INTEL - Core i7-3770S/3.1GHz 8MB LGA1155 65W
CPU Fan: CORSAIR - Hydro Series H60 Cooler CPU
SSD: VERTEX 4 SERIES SATA III 2.5Pol 128GB
HDD: WESTERN DIGITAL - Disco 1TB 64Mb, 6Gb/s, Green, SATA -WD10EZRX 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Memory: G.SKILL PC3-12800 1600MHZ RIPJAWSX 16GB CL10 (2X8GB) DDR3
Video Card: ASUS GEFORCE GTX670 DIRECT CU II 2GB GDDR5 PCI-E 3.0

I have to choose a Blu-ray optical drive...
Other thing... i need a audio card?

Thank you.
November 11, 2012 7:57:52 PM

I like my Samsung drive. I would say probably not on the sound card, if the output is going to a good amp.

That GPU is going to be relatively loud. I don't really have any solution for you there. The only way to get real quiet operation with heavy gaming is water cooling.

November 11, 2012 8:01:40 PM

Samsung 12x Blu-ray DVD - SH-B123L/BSBP this one?
Yes, the noise concerns me. The Asus is the quiest GTX670 i found.
Water cooling is very difficult.
November 11, 2012 8:24:49 PM

Yes, good choice. I have the 8x version from a few years ago.... very fast with DVDs of all sorts and very solid with Blu-rays... so I'm guessing that one can only be an upgrade.

Looking at the price on that drive here though.... that is WAY too much.
Unless you have a good deal on it, look for an Asus like this
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I think Samsung got out of the BD drive business.
November 11, 2012 8:37:06 PM

Update:
...................................................................................................................................................................................
Case: ANTEC FUSION REMOTE MAX BLACK
Motherboard: GIGABYTE - Z77X-UP4 TH
Power Supply: SEASONIC X-660
CPU: INTEL - Core i7-3770S/3.1GHz 8MB LGA1155 65W
CPU Fan: CORSAIR - Hydro Series H60 Cooler CPU
SSD: VERTEX 4 SERIES SATA III 2.5Pol 128GB
HDD: 2x WESTERN DIGITAL - Disco 1TB 64Mb, 6Gb/s, Green, SATA -WD10EZRX 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Memory: G.SKILL PC3-12800 1600MHZ RIPJAWSX 16GB CL10 (2X8GB) DDR3
Video Card: ASUS GEFORCE GTX670 DIRECT CU II 2GB GDDR5 PCI-E 3.0
Optical drive: Asus BC-12B1ST BLK B AS
..............................................................................................................................................................................

Thank you very much for your help :-)

This is it? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ You think its fine?

The memory CL10 works on this motherboard?
November 12, 2012 4:33:51 AM

The memory should be fine. It's more the CPU you worry about there, as that is where the memory controller resides.

Some will say your PSU is overkill but the strategy there is to work it lightly so that the fan doesn't run.

Hopefully you can manage the fan profile on the GPU well enough that it's quiet during movies.

November 12, 2012 11:10:04 PM

Ok. Thank you :-)
November 21, 2012 8:52:35 PM

This is the latest configuration:

Case: Silverstone Grandia GD07…………………………………………………..…………..................…………..……???? euros
Motherboard: ASUS P8Z77-V PRO/THUNDERBOLT……………………………..………................…………………220 euros
CPU: INTEL 1155 CORE I7 3770K 3.50GHZ 8MB BOX………………...…………...........………….….…….296,85 euros
CPU Cooler:NOCTUA NH-L12 LOW PROFILE..............................................................................51,95 euros
GPU:ASUS GEFORCE GTX660 DIRECT CU II 2GB GDDR5 PCI-E 3.0..........................................239,85 euros
Power Supply: SEASONIC X-660............................................................................................151,40 euros
SAMSUNG SERIES 830 128GB 2.5" SATA III............................................................................95,85 euros
HDD:2X WESTERN DIGITAL CAVIAR GREEN 1TB 7200RPM 64MB SATA III 3.5….................…72,95 X2 euros
Memory: CORSAIR PC3-12800 1600MHZ 16GB VENGEANCE LP CL10 (2X8GB) DDR3…..…........73,55 euros
Optical drive: ASUS BC-12B1ST BLU RAY……………………………………………………………................……...63,35 euros

Total: 1338 euros (without the case...)
It's missing the mouse and the keyword.

Tell me what you think please.
Thank you.
November 22, 2012 4:27:20 AM

You should be looking at a lower power i5 for the CPU, nothing you have listed needs that CPU.
November 23, 2012 12:24:27 PM

The INTEL 1155 I5 3570K 3.40GHZ 6MB BOX is a 77W also...
November 25, 2012 8:04:24 PM

The CPU INTEL 1155 CORE I7 3770S 3.10GHZ 8MB BOX has the same TDP that the Intel® Core™ i5-3470S Processor - 65W.

The Intel® Core™ i7-3770T has 45W TDP

I'm more concerned about the energetic efficiency than the price... Should I choose the Intel® Core™ i7-3770T for the performance/power consumption?

I will play games so... Isnt's safer to choose the CORE I7 3770S or the CORE I7 3770T concerning the performance? http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_lookup.php?cpu=Intel+Co...

Thank you.

November 25, 2012 8:18:31 PM

Avirhel said:


System Usage from Most to Least Important: gaming, surfing the internet, watching movies.



....

Additional Comments: I would like a low power consumption and very quiet HTPC. I will use windows 7 and will play RPG´s most of the time and see 3D movies.




The difference between an i7 and an i5 is hyperthreading. None of the purposes you have listed will use this feature, and that is why I recommend the i5.

If money is not important and you want that feature just in case, then the 3770T is fine.

November 25, 2012 9:50:20 PM

Last configuration:


Case: Silverstone Grandia GD07…………………………………………………………...........……………………????euros
Motherboard: ASUS P8Z77-V PRO/THUNDERBOLT………………………………..........……………………220 euros
CPU: INTEL CORE™ I7-3770T……………………………………………………………..…...……………..…….284,95 euros 
CPU Cooler:NOCTUA NH-L12 LOW PROFILE....................................................................51,95 euros
GPU:ASUS GEFORCE GTX660 DIRECT CU II 2GB GDDR5 PCI-E 3.0...............................239,85 euros
Power Supply: SEASONIC X-660..................................................................................151,40 euros
SAMSUNG SERIES 830 128GB 2.5" SATA III..................................................................95,85euros
HDD:2X WESTERN DIGITAL CAVIAR GREEN 1TB 7200RPM 64MB SATA III 3.5…......…72,95 X2 euros
Memory: CORSAIR PC3-12800 1600MHZ 16GB VENGEANCE LP CL10 (2X8GB) DDR3…...73,55 euros
Optical drive: ASUS BC-12B1ST BLU RAY………………………………………………………………….........63,35 euros

Someone told me that the SAMSUNG SERIES 830 is more reliable that the vertex 4, do you think the same?
Thank you:-) I made an improvement today :-D (better CPU choice)
November 26, 2012 5:38:50 AM

I think the Vertex 4 is a better SSD than the ones that came before. It's an improvement for OCZ, and I would consider owning one whereas I would not have owned a Vertex 3. (sorry for the complex English there.)

Still, given the choice I would get the Samsung over the OCZ. Samsung has a better record for reliability and you will not notice any difference in speed.
November 26, 2012 10:58:50 AM

OK. Thank you :-)
Now it's missing the mouse and keyboard...
November 27, 2012 11:05:33 AM

I´m thinking... should I go for the GTX 650, it only have a 64W TDP... the GTX660 have 140W TDP...
I think it´s not enough... its too slow...: http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2012/10/04/ev...
I love to have the Seasonic SS-660XP PSU or the Antec EA-650 Platinum:-) I think I'm getting obsessed for power efficiency lol

I'm not buying the HTPC right now, I will buy it in february. Prices are higher now than last week... I have to wait.

Until than the Samsung 840 ssd will be less expensive I hope...

... my thought now is... were can I be more power efficient?.... I'm going to think all over having this in mind...

With this CPU (i7-3770T - 45W TDP) should I still use the NOCTUA NH-L12 for safe ( I know that with turbo boost 2.0 the TDP may be higher, and I don't know if the passive part is more efficient and maintain the fan with lower speed), or use the new, even smaller version , NH-L9i?

Now I'm trying to find a low profile 1600 MHZ energy efficient memory... ufff...
Corsair Vengeance® Low Profile White — 1.35V 8GB Dual Channel DDR3 Memory Kit -> is his ok?

The mobo MSI Z77A-GD80 is more efficient... I don't know if I should go for it... I don't know about the fan control of this one...

November 11, 2013 5:19:44 AM

Hello everyone :-) Thank you for your excellent help last year. I waited for the haswell to go out. Now I have to view everything again to be sure that still the right configuration.
I was thinking, and now the 4th gen CPU have better graphics, so I wont be using for now a GPU, but in the future probably I will need to use it.

This is my config at the moment:

Case: LIAN LI PC-C60 BLACK…………………………………..............………………..………….....…….… 205,70€
Motherboard: ASUS Z87-EXPERT SKT 1150……………………………………….….........…...………..212,05€
CPU: INTEL I7 4770T 2.5GHZ 6M SKT 1150 TRAY……………….……………............……..……..….297,50€
CPU Cooler:NOCTUA NH-L12 LOW PROFILE....................................................................53,95€ 
Power Supply: SEASONIC P760W SEMIFANLESS MODULAR 80PLUS PLATINUM..........179,70€
SSD: SAMSUNG SERIES 840 ULTRASLIM 250GB 2.5" SATA III.......................................149,95€ 
Memory: I don't know...

Optical drive, GPU and HDD: None for now. I will buy them later when necessary.

What do you think? I'm still looking for silent and low power consumption HTPC.

Thank you :-)


November 11, 2013 9:24:49 PM

That seems very nice. 2x4GB of RAM, 1600Mhz, CL9 1.5V or lower will be OK, unless you anticipate usage beyond a simple HTPC. Maybe consider an i5 over the i7 also.... ah I see we have been over that already.
November 12, 2013 2:08:25 AM

Hello :-) I will use the HTPC for seeing Blu-Ray movies and series, to play some games, and for Blu-ray encoding/processing.


Case: LIAN LI PC-C60 BLACK…………………………………..............………………..…….........…….....…….… 205,70€
or Silverstone Grandia GD08....................................................................................................???,??€
or ???

Motherboard: ASUS Z87-EXPERT SKT 1150……………………………………….….........…...….........……..212,05€

CPU: INTEL I7 4770T 2.5GHZ 6M SKT 1150 TRAY……………….…………….....................……..……..….297,50€
or INTEL I5 4670T 2.3GHZ 6MB SKT 1150 TRAY......................................................................207,60€

CPU Cooler: NOCTUA NH-L12 LOW PROFILE............................................................................53,95€
Power Supply: SEASONIC P760W SEMIFANLESS MODULAR 80PLUS PLATINUM......................179,70€
SSD: SAMSUNG SERIES 840 ULTRASLIM 250GB 2.5" SATA III................................................149,95€
or SAMSUNG SERIES 840 EVO ULTRASLIM 250GB 2.5" SATA III .............................................158,90€

Memory: CORSAIR PC3-12800 1600MHZ 16GB VENGEANCE LP CL10 (2X8GB) DDR3 (1.35V or 1.5???)..161,25€
or CORSAIR PC3-12800 1600MHZ 8GB VENGEANCE LP BLACK CL9 (2X4GB) DDR3 (1.35V or 1.5???).........85,90€

I don´t know if there is a better case. I will use HDD's in the future. I don't like the Lian Li case very much because doesn't have a back fan :-/
November 13, 2013 5:08:52 AM

I'm looking for a HTPC case that have 140mm fans, these are more silent. But the only one that I know is the LIAN LI PC-C60 BLACK. But this case don't have a back fan. The ventilation is not very good. I want a ATX case because I will use a GPU later.
Thanks.
November 23, 2013 4:32:38 PM

I have changed some things:

Case: FRACTAL DESIGN DEFINE R4 BLACK PEARL USB 3.0………………………………..…….… 99,85 €
Motherboard: Asus Z87-PRO……………………………………………………………………………..174,50€
CPU: INTEL I7 4770 3.4GHZ 8MB SKT 1150 BOX………………………………………….....……….275,85€
CPU Cooler: PROLIMATECH GENESIS……………………………………………………….........…..…..60,85€
CPU Cooler fans (2): NOCTUA NF-A15 PWM 140MM 1200RPM……………………………...…….48,20€
GPU: MSI GEFORCE GTX760 TWINFROZR GAMING OC 2GB GDDR5 PCI-E 3.0…………….…..246,00€
Power Supply: SEASONIC P660W SEMIFANLESS MODULAR 80PLUS PLATINUM……..……..….168,25€
SSD: SAMSUNG SERIES 840 EVO ULTRASLIM 250GB 2.5" SATA III………………………………..164,80€
Memory: CORSAIR PC3-12800 1600MHZ 8GB VENGEANCE LP BLACK CL9 (2X4GB) DDR3…..86,55€
HDD: WESTERN DIGITAL CAVIAR GREEN 3TB 7200RPM 64MB SATA III 3.5 (x2)…………………222,6€
Drive: ASUS BW-12B1ST BLU RAY…………………………………………………………………..….…80,15€
Case fans (4): ANTEC TRUE QUIET 140MM FAN..………………………………………………………61,40€
UPS: APC POWER-SAVING BACK-UPS ES 8 OUTLET 700VA...................................................107,30€

What you think?
Thank you.
November 23, 2013 11:27:30 PM

Sounds fine.
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