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September 14, 2012 6:06:38 PM

First let me say I have done an extensive search on this topic but all the results I've found are far more technical than I can understand. Iam a complete noob on this hardware stuff but I am trying to help my son be able to play games such as minecraft and guild wars. Below is my current system (not sure if this is the relevant info needed). Can I upgrade my video card and if so how? I opened the case and I am uncertain about how to get the card out. Is it all one piece? Sorry when I hear the word 'card' I think something shaped like a card without the ports and stuff... Also my searches indicated that the power supply is important, I have no idea how to find out what mine is or again, how to upgrade that either.
If anyone can help out this total non-techie I would be very grateful! My son is bugging me for a whole new gaming PC, I hope I dont have to


System Information
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Time of this report: 9/14/2012, 10:29:49
Machine name: FAMILY-PC
Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_gdr.120503-2030)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: DELL Inc.
System Model: Studio XPS 435T/9000
BIOS: Default System BIOS
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 920 @ 2.67GHz (8 CPUs), ~2.7GHz
Memory: 3072MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 3062MB RAM
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Manufacturer: ATI Technologies Inc.
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a c 198 U Graphics card
September 14, 2012 6:39:37 PM

Alright, this might be a long post. I'll do the best I can to help you here.



This is the video card. Yours might look a little bit different. I'll go into taking it out in a minute.

You have a Dell XPS, which means you probably have around a 300W power supply. Now, you can upgrade the power supply, but if you do not want to upgrade the power supply, the best card you can get in your computer is the Radeon HD7750. It has a very low power draw and should work on whatever power supply you have in there.

Now, for taking out the card:

Before you turn off the computer, uninstall the drivers for the card in "Programs and Features"

You obviously want to turn off the computer and un-plug the power. Remember to ground yourself. You are probably going to need a screwdriver. Unscrew the screw holding in the graphics card. You'll be able to find it pretty obviously.

Now, you can't just yank the card out. To take the card out, you are going to want to un-do the clip that is going to be behind the graphics card.



You need to un-do the clip to slide the graphics card out. I would recommend keeping the old 5450 you had as a backup.

To insert the card, you basically just put it into the slot and screw it in.

Then you turn the computer on to make sure it works. If it boots into Windows, you can install the drivers for the video card from the manufacturer website (Nvidia/AMD).
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a c 104 U Graphics card
September 14, 2012 6:43:38 PM

And probably a 5770 so the 7750 isn't much of an upgrade.
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a c 104 U Graphics card
September 14, 2012 6:47:40 PM

Maybe a GTX660 ? What is the budget ?
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a c 198 U Graphics card
September 14, 2012 6:50:32 PM

Quote:
Card name: ATI Radeon HD 5450
Manufacturer: ATI Technologies Inc.


And if its a 475W, it can run alot more cards. Dell actually makes halfway decent power supplies.
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a c 104 U Graphics card
September 14, 2012 6:53:14 PM

Deemo13 said:
Quote:
Card name: ATI Radeon HD 5450
Manufacturer: ATI Technologies Inc.


And if its a 475W, it can run alot more cards. Dell actually makes halfway decent power supplies.



LoL, missed that part. Maybe psu ain't correct to, better just wait. ( and indeed a lot more cards will do, it was just a suggestion )
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September 14, 2012 6:53:58 PM

GreenDutchAlien said:
Maybe a GTX660 ? What is the budget ?


If it saves me from buying a new PC and listening to my son complain, my budget is bt $100-150? Is that do-able?
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September 14, 2012 6:55:21 PM

Deemo13 said:
Quote:
Card name: ATI Radeon HD 5450
Manufacturer: ATI Technologies Inc.


And if its a 475W, it can run alot more cards. Dell actually makes halfway decent power supplies.


How can tell how many watts it has?
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a c 104 U Graphics card
September 14, 2012 6:55:57 PM

We first have to establish what power supply you have. To be sure you have to open the case and look for a label on the side of the psu. Also tell us the amps on the +12V rail(s).
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a c 198 U Graphics card
September 14, 2012 6:57:34 PM

jojalis said:
If it saves me from buying a new PC and listening to my son complain, my budget is bt $100-150? Is that do-able?


This made me laugh lol!

Honestly, that is a really nice computer, and you probably won't have get anything new for awhile. That processor is going to hold up for another 2 years or so. That's also a ridiculously nice looking case as well, so if your son starts to complain in a few years, you can use alot of the parts you already have, like the hard drive, the case, and the new video card to make a new one, but you shouldn't have that problem for awhile.

$150 is going to get you a Radeon HD7770.
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September 14, 2012 6:58:32 PM

GreenDutchAlien said:
We first have to establish what power supply you have. To be sure you have to open the case and look for a label on the side of the psu. Also tell us the amps on the +12V rail(s).


I'm sorry, what is a psu?
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a c 104 U Graphics card
September 14, 2012 7:00:51 PM

Power supply, sorry.

150 can get you also a gtx560, hd 6870 and if you wait for maybe one or two weeks even a GXT560ti.
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a c 198 U Graphics card
September 14, 2012 7:01:15 PM



I know this is not your computer, but the power supply would be similar to the greyish box on the top of the case. It should have some numbers on it.
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September 14, 2012 7:05:11 PM

GreenDutchAlien said:
Power supply, sorry.

150 can get you also a gtx560, hd 6870 and if you wait for maybe one or two weeks even a GXT560ti.


Ok, I took the cover off - first time I ever saw inside of a pc - so bear with me. I see a metal box where the power supply cord goes inside.There is a label on it made in china with a few numbers but there is a screw holding a panel on the box. Would the power spec be inside here? Do I need to take it apart?
Or are you referring to the cable that plugs into the monitor?
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a b U Graphics card
September 14, 2012 7:07:27 PM

I don't think he'd want an upgrade to help her son play those games if it had the 5770.
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September 14, 2012 7:10:48 PM

2785927,18,1028011 said:
I don't think he'd want an upgrade to help his son play those games if it had the 5770.[/quotemsg

LOL, I'm the mom - and not to insult any ladies out there - it might explain my helplessness! No offense to anyone! ;-)
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a c 104 U Graphics card
September 14, 2012 7:14:07 PM

Ho mum, wait ! Don't screw anythinh loose yet !
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a c 104 U Graphics card
September 14, 2012 7:15:30 PM

What do those numbers next to made in china say. I think this is the psu and not a case for it to hold it. If you unscrew the wrong thing you maybe end up with a lot of problems you don't want.
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September 14, 2012 7:19:03 PM

too late, although I do see the Volt and watts stuff on the label
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September 14, 2012 7:20:27 PM

It says total output power 475W max and Max +12v1
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a c 104 U Graphics card
September 14, 2012 7:23:07 PM

Wauw, your son should be proud ; my mother would freeze totally when she even had to open the side of the case :lol: 

What does it state at that 12 v rail, how much amperes ? Maybe there are two +12v.
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September 14, 2012 7:26:34 PM

Aw thanks, I'm going to make sure he reads your post. And if I blow up the computer he gets a new one anyway! um, the rail is like 12V -- .3A; 12V1 -- 16.0A; 12V2 -- 12.0A; 12V3 -- 16.0A
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a b U Graphics card
September 14, 2012 7:30:05 PM

Oops sorry.
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September 14, 2012 7:33:10 PM

andrewcarr said:
Oops sorry.

lol i was trying to figure out who you were talking about, who is this 'he' who is trying to upgrade his son's pc too? I thought I mentioned i was a mom in my original post! :lol: 
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September 14, 2012 7:36:52 PM

GreenDutchAlien said:
Ok thats not a bad psu at all. Like Deemo13 says Dell psu's are often pretty good.

Can you see if the psu has a pci-e power connector like this ; http://www.google.nl/imgres?imgurl=http://static.erodov...


from what i can see, was afraid to unplug it, it says p2 on the side
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a c 104 U Graphics card
September 14, 2012 7:38:20 PM

Unplug it from where ?
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a c 104 U Graphics card
September 14, 2012 7:39:45 PM

From the motherboard ????? Euh, no, don't !
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a c 104 U Graphics card
September 14, 2012 7:41:14 PM

It should be a connector that not in use now with the old video card.
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September 14, 2012 7:42:02 PM

GreenDutchAlien said:
Unplug it from where ?


the motherboard (???)
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a c 104 U Graphics card
September 14, 2012 7:43:10 PM

Please ; never, ever unplug a connector while the pc is powered. Are you on line with it now actually, or a laptop or something ?

( would make a big difference for my hart you know )
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September 14, 2012 7:43:20 PM

GreenDutchAlien said:
It should be a connector that not in use now with the old video card.

Sorry, I am not sure what you mean then
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September 14, 2012 7:44:08 PM

GreenDutchAlien said:
Please ; never, ever unplug a connector while the pc is powered. Are you on line with it now actually, or a laptop or something ?

( would make a big difference for my hart you know )


I am using a laptop. I didn't unplug it from the motherboard, I admit I tried but couldnt
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a b U Graphics card
September 14, 2012 7:48:11 PM

The cable should be just an extra one not attached to anything.
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September 14, 2012 7:48:52 PM

I guess i don't have what you are talking about. all i see is wires coming from the plug on the motherboard to the psu box. And then a whole bunch of wires coming out and going all over the place
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a b U Graphics card
September 14, 2012 7:49:41 PM

It'll be coming from the PSU but to nothing.
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a c 104 U Graphics card
September 14, 2012 7:50:54 PM

Yes, because it's not in use by your video card. It would be hanging loose.
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a c 198 U Graphics card
September 14, 2012 7:55:43 PM

Just get the 7750. It will work and be a massive improvement.
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September 14, 2012 7:57:34 PM

Nothing like cardio arrest to make you feel alive! It seems I only have P8, P9, P10 - those ones have yellow and black wires. There are two others that look different, - they are flat with red/black wires
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September 14, 2012 8:00:28 PM

Ok, so a 7750 is how I am going. And the power supply is fine. Thank you thank you! You guys - or gals - are so great and patient with my inexperience. Wow awesome!
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a c 104 U Graphics card
September 14, 2012 8:01:17 PM

I think Deemo13 said it right ; get the HD7750, you won't have any power cable hassle and it's quite an improvement anyway.

Don't expect high/ultra game settings though.
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