Nikon D70 and Nikkor 28-200 3.5-5.6D lense

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Maintane wrote:

> I purchased the kit at Christmas...like the kit lense, but wanted more
> telephoto. The idea of a wide range lese was appealing, and I bought the D
> series lense in the subject line as I saw several comments that this was a
> better lense than the newer G version.. While I did get the additional zoom,
> I also got a noisier, slower focusing lense with a minimum focus length of
> about 4'-6' .I used the lense for about 2 days, decided I made a mistake,
> and am selling it.
>
> I am now looking to buy the G version, and hope that it operates as quickly
> and quietly as the kit lense. I see that the minimum focus length is 1.3 ft.
> Will I be dissapointed with that lense as well? I would really like a lense
> with this range.
>
> Thanks for your input.
>
> Mike


I got that lens but have nothing to compare it to. It is decidedly soft
at 200mm.

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"Edwin Hurwitz" <edwin@TAKEMEOUTindra.com> wrote in message
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> In article <QKxRd.94569$qB6.54312@tornado.tampabay.rr.com>,
> "Maintane" <imhere@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
>> I purchased the kit at Christmas...like the kit lense, but wanted more
>> telephoto. The idea of a wide range lese was appealing, and I bought the
>> D
>> series lense in the subject line as I saw several comments that this was
>> a
>> better lense than the newer G version.. While I did get the additional
>> zoom,
>> I also got a noisier, slower focusing lense with a minimum focus length
>> of
>> about 4'-6' .I used the lense for about 2 days, decided I made a mistake,
>> and am selling it.
>>
>> I am now looking to buy the G version, and hope that it operates as
>> quickly
>> and quietly as the kit lense. I see that the minimum focus length is 1.3
>> ft.
>> Will I be dissapointed with that lense as well? I would really like a
>> lense
>> with this range.
>>
>> Thanks for your input.
>>
>> Mike
>
> The kit lens has an internal motor (the S in AF-S) and will focus much
> faster and quieter than most other Nikon lenses. There are other Nikon
> lenses that do have the internal motor but they are pretty expensive for
> the most part. If you want that focal range, you will have to put up
> with some compromises in image quality and I don't think they make and
> AF-S with that range.
>
> In other words, I think that you might be disappointed by the G as well.
>
>
> Sorry.....
>
>
> Edwin

I am too, but thanks for the info, Edwin. If I do decide to get the "G"
version, at least it will have a more acceptable minimum focus length. I was
really hoping to match the speed and quietness of the kit lense. Thanks for
the heads-up on the "S" as the designator for the internal motor. Do you
have an opinion on whether the "G" at least as good as the "D" in image
quality and otherwise?

Thanks,

Mike

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In article <LMARd.94638$qB6.45104@tornado.tampabay.rr.com>,
"Maintane" <imhere@nowhere.com> wrote:

> I am too, but thanks for the info, Edwin. If I do decide to get the "G"
> version, at least it will have a more acceptable minimum focus length. I was
> really hoping to match the speed and quietness of the kit lense. Thanks for
> the heads-up on the "S" as the designator for the internal motor. Do you
> have an opinion on whether the "G" at least as good as the "D" in image
> quality and otherwise?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mike

I haven't used either lens, but in general, I tend to distrust G series
lenses. Perhaps it's an unwarranted bias, but there it is! I know that
they are lighter and with a D70 not having an aperture ring doesn't make
a difference. I am pretty old school, though, and most of my lenses have
been chosen for backwards compatibility to my FM2n. I also try to buy
lenses with ED glass. For the 200mm length, I have a 80-200 AFD 2.8
(great, great optics! Head and shoulders above lenses like the 28-200)
and also the 70-300 3.5-5.6 (or whatever it is) ED, and it also has very
nice optics, although not as nice as the 80-200. I have found that zooms
that go from wide angle to telephoto tend not to excel at either and
really, I would rather have a fixed wide angle and a fixed telephoto as
they will provide better optics at a better price (and usually a faster
aperture). If I need to get a different perspective I zoom with my feet!


HTH, but everyone has different needs.
Edwin

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In article <LMARd.94638$qB6.45104@tornado.tampabay.rr.com>,
Maintane <imhere@nowhere.com> wrote:
>"Edwin Hurwitz" <edwin@TAKEMEOUTindra.com> wrote in message
>news:edwin-EC536F.22554918022005@corp.supernews.com...
>
>> In article <QKxRd.94569$qB6.54312@tornado.tampabay.rr.com>,
>> "Maintane" <imhere@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I purchased the kit at Christmas...like the kit lense, but wanted more
>>> telephoto. The idea of a wide range lese was appealing, and I bought the
>>> D
>>> series lense in the subject line as I saw several comments that this was
>>> a
>>> better lense than the newer G version..

[ ... ]

>>> I am now looking to buy the G version, and hope that it operates as
>>> quickly
>>> and quietly as the kit lense. I see that the minimum focus length is 1.3
>>> ft.

[ ... ]

>> The kit lens has an internal motor (the S in AF-S) and will focus much
>> faster and quieter than most other Nikon lenses. There are other Nikon
>> lenses that do have the internal motor but they are pretty expensive for
>> the most part. If you want that focal range, you will have to put up
>> with some compromises in image quality and I don't think they make and
>> AF-S with that range.
>>
>> In other words, I think that you might be disappointed by the G as well.
>>
>>
>> Sorry.....

[ ... ]

>I am too, but thanks for the info, Edwin. If I do decide to get the "G"
>version, at least it will have a more acceptable minimum focus length.

You might want to consider two separate lenses. I don't have
the lens which comes with the kit, but instead a 28-105mm f3.5-4.5 D.
That lens does not have the reach that my other lens has (an older
180mm f2.8 -- nice optics and nice speed, but no zoom), but the 28-105mm
*does* have that you want in close focusing. It has a switch on the
body just between the zoom ring and the focus ring which enables a
"macro" mode -- as long as the zoom is between 50mm and 105mm, it will
focus down to something like 2" from the front element. This covers
about 1-5/8" in the horizontal format and about 1-1/8" in the vertical.

So this lens, in combination with one in the 70-200mm range
might be a good pair for you. Note that this lens does use the camera
body's motor for autofocus, so you will still get the noise which you
object to -- unless you manually focus.

My 180mm f2.8 fixed focal length lens has been retrofitted with
a CPU chip, so while it does not do autofocus, it does do the exposure
control very nicely. (The CPU lies, however, in that it claims that the
lens is a 300mm in what is recorded with the image, instead of the true
180mm, or even the 270mm equivalent coverage on a full-frame camera.

Note, also, that the same lens on a N90s body is faster in the
autofocus -- a bit more power being allotted to the motor, I guess.

Good Luck,
DoN.
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