New sub ~600 build. Help Please

[alakapinio]

Approximate Purchase Date: e.g.: xmas

Budget Range: Sub 600

System Usage from Most to Least Important: video rendering and light gaming )Diablo 3 SC2 Minecraft)

Are you buying a monitor: no


Parts to Upgrade: new build

Do you need to buy OS: No

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: any
Location: Canada Ontario

Parts Preferences: amd for cpu no preference on gpu but i found a 560 ti for a crazy price so im going to get that over a 7770

Overclocking: Yes

SLI or Crossfire: no

Your Monitor Resolution:1920x1080

Additional Comments: None
And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: Crapy old pc, time for an upgrade


Here is what i put together: http://pcpartpicker.com/ca/p/nncu. If you suggest a new build be sure it Canadian pricing.

 

[manofchalk]

Thats a pretty good rig, only way I would improve is to max the budget and get an 8320.
http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=10360BD9130&vpn=FD8320FRHKBOX&manufacture=AMD

An easy upgrade to the machine later would be another 8GB of RAM. Rendering software loves the stuff.

 

[TheBigTroll]

wait out for the black friday sale at ncix. always something good. oh and if you are building in christmas, please ask when its christmas.

also, im recommending intel over the fx even if its for rendering. eats way less power, performs better and is right now very cheap.

benchmarks. the 3450 is like 100mhz slower from what i know than the i5 3470
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/699?vs=702

CPU + motherboard
http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=77760&vpn=P8H77%2DV%20%26%203450&manufacture=Bundle%20Deals&promoid=1230

ram
http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=74758&vpn=PV38G160C9K&manufacture=Patriot&promoid=1230

hard drive
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=63468&promoid=1230

price match with this link
http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=16950AC0275&vpn=ST500DM002&manfuacture=SEAGATE

sad but the 560ti is sold out

a better power supply. a lot better
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=59615

keep the case

 

[alakapinio]

Thats a pretty good rig, only way I would improve is to max the budget and get an 8320.
http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=10360BD9130&vpn=FD8320FRHKBOX&manufacture=AMD

An easy upgrade to the machine later would be another 8GB of RAM. Rendering software loves the stuff.

I could drop the hyper 212 and use the money to buy an 8320. Another option would be to drop the 560 ti to a 7770. Thoughts?

 

[alakapinio]

wait out for the black friday sale at ncix. always something good. oh and if you are building in christmas, please ask when its christmas.

also, im recommending intel over the fx even if its for rendering. eats way less power, performs better and is right now very cheap.

benchmarks. the 3450 is like 100mhz slower from what i know than the i5 3470
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/699?vs=702

CPU + motherboard
http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=77760&vpn=P8H77%2DV%20%26%203450&manufacture=Bundle%20Deals&promoid=1230

ram
http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=74758&vpn=PV38G160C9K&manufacture=Patriot&promoid=1230

hard drive
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=63468&promoid=1230

price match with this link
http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=16950AC0275&vpn=ST500DM002&manfuacture=SEAGATE

sad but the 560ti is sold out

a better power supply. a lot better
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=59615

keep the case

That may be true, but in a year or so AMD will have their new set of chips (forgot name) using am3+. Yes haswell will be coming out but that will be a new socket and if remember correctly only for i7's. Then on top of this when excavator comes out with a bios update I will be good to go.

 

[manofchalk]

AMD have only just released Piledriver, you will have to wait until this time next year for the next architecture (forgot the name as well).
Haswell will release mid-next year, and it definitely support low and mid-range chips as well.

I would drop to the 7770 before losing the 212 EVO. The graphics card will go out of date (both are pretty much already), while that heatsink wont. Could use it for multiple builds later on.

EDIT:
Steamroller, thats what it is.

 

[TheBigTroll]

That may be true, but in a year or so AMD will have their new set of chips (forgot name) using am3+. Yes haswell will be coming out but that will be a new socket and if remember correctly only for i7's. Then on top of this when excavator comes out with a bios update I will be good to go.

yes but amd is so far behind right now. haswell will be a tock (meaning new architecture or in other words massive increases in performance). it will be for all i series processors. what makes you think that they would catch up all of a sudden? their main focus isnt going to be desktop chips. they are focused on their APUs.

i see your point of upgradeability, but most people when its time to upgrade in 3 years, throw most of their stuff out other than a couple of things like the case and power supply.

 

[cutebeans]

There is no reason for anyone to buy an AMD CPU right now unless they want to waste their money.

 

[manofchalk]

^Wrong.

An FX-8350 has roughly equivalent performance in gaming to a 3570k and excels in multi-threaded tasks at the same price point. The downside is a lack of single-threaded performance and its higher power usage.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/701?vs=697
It really depends on what you are using your machine for. For the majority of us that only require single threaded performance and gaming will go for the 3570k, as it offers better performance at that price point. If you need multi-threaded performance and cant afford an i7-3770k, then AMD is your best option.

 

[cutebeans]

I still wouldn't get it. Look at the power usage and it would always get beat in games which at most times uses only 2 cores. You can see it in the benches that it only wins at multi threaded apps and it doesn't win by much.

People are just bashing their faces if they buy an AMD CPU right now.