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Which system should I build, AMD or Intell?

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November 12, 2012 8:01:00 PM

So I finally have some money for a build but I'm a very indecisive person so I would like the communities input.
I have a budget of ~$750 for everything including the OS which I will be using Windows 7 home premium 64bit.
This computer will be used as an all arounder, recording; general gameplay (DayZ, Minecraft, some BF3 at 720p), surfing the interwebs, video editing, watching movies ext. I will not be buying a monitor. With this budget I'm not looking for a 60+fps with max setting or anything but if i can keep my fps in games above 30 that will do me fine. I like to use newegg because they helped me a lot in the past. I am not interested in overclocking or sli/crossfire just yet. any way here are the builds i have in mind:

Build1(Intell system)
CPU: i5 3330 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
MOBO: ASRock H77M http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Ram: G.SKILL Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Hard Drive: Western Digital 500GB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GPU: SAPPHIRE Vapor-X HD 7770 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
PSU: RAIDMAX RX-500AF http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Optical Drive: ASUS 24X DVD Burner http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Case: Corsair Carbide Series 300R http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Total Cost: $757 with s&h and OS

Build2 (AMD system)
CPU: FX 6300 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
MOBO: ASRock 970 EXTREME4 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Everything else would be the same
Total Cost: $740 with s&h and OS

Also If y'all have some input on parts that may help with price and or performance please chime in. This will be the second computer I will build, The 1st one is doing awesome though I built it for under $100 with old parts :) 
November 12, 2012 8:10:20 PM

I am partial to intel, but sense you can overclock the AMD cpu, you will most likely be able to get better performance out of it.
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November 12, 2012 10:11:13 PM

I'm not real comfortable with over clocking atm(last computer I had overclocked lasted 3 months then was fried) + it would be a while before I could get an aftermarket cooler.
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November 12, 2012 10:35:42 PM

Hoo boy, this should be a good thread :) 

Anyway, I say go with Vishera. Piledriver won some battles this time around, even at stock clocks, and AM3+ will allow you to upgrade to Steamroller when it comes out, whereas LGA 1155 is virtually dead. Vishera is also very versatile, priced quite well and I think, compared to Ivy Bridge, AM3+ is ever so slightly more "future proof" IMHO. Now THAT is definitely debatable, to the point where you will find that you will not be disappointed with either option. I just built an Ivy Bridge PC built around an i7-3770 for a friend because I found a Z75 motherboard that I really liked.
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November 12, 2012 10:38:44 PM

oh i forgot, get rid of that PSU! raidmax is a no no. all you need is this...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

and that's just in case you get a power hungry GPU in the future. your current setups don't really need anything more than a 380W PSU.
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November 12, 2012 10:40:53 PM

intel one will be faster out of the gate but like someone else said the AMD platform will last longer with future upgrades to the next gen of bad amd cpus that will or will not be faster then current intel cpus.

Derza10 said:
I am partial to intel, but sense you can overclock the AMD cpu, you will most likely be able to get better performance out of it.


all intel cpus are at least partially unlocked so you cant say you cant overclock an intel cpu.
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November 12, 2012 10:45:16 PM

The intel processor is a little stronger over all , but would also lose in some benchmarks

But for gaming both builds would perform identically
And the AMD motherboard has much more room for expansion , and will remain current a lot longer . Even steamroller processors from 2014 should fit right in and run . while the intel will be obsolete in a few months when they change their socket yet again .

The part you should NOT buy is the raidmax psu its old style junk . Only use 80+ rated power supplies which that unit is definitely not [ despite the claim on the newegg page] . It does not have Active PFC . The small red voltage switch on the back is a give away sign of a low quality unit . A PSU with active PFC does not need you to set the voltage

This silverstone is a much better unit and its cheaper
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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November 12, 2012 10:50:35 PM

cbrunnem said:


all intel cpus are at least partially unlocked so you cant say you cant overclock an intel cpu.



yeah you can mess about with the intel and add about 0.02 %

The AMD FX can be overclocked by about ......................30% with a good cooler thanks to the unlocked multiplier
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November 12, 2012 11:27:02 PM

Outlander_04 said:
yeah you can mess about with the intel and add about 0.02 %

The AMD FX can be overclocked by about ......................30% with a good cooler thanks to the unlocked multiplier


locked intel cpus can be overclock 4 bins past turbo boost.

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cpus/2011/01/03/intel-...
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November 12, 2012 11:51:45 PM

They both look good to me, except for that PSU. Your last system fried, and if you chose this PSU chances are you chose a crappy one for your last build too. The Raidmax may fry your board, it may even start a house fire! GET RID OF IT!
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November 12, 2012 11:55:05 PM

cbrunnem said:
locked intel cpus can be overclock 4 bins past turbo boost.

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cpus/2011/01/03/intel-...


Yeah but 9 times out of 10 they are very unstable when you get over 103-105 BCLK on a Sandy/Ivy Bridge. You might squeeze off a benchmark or two but as far as 24/7 stability it is hard to achieve and usually takes a golden chip. The BCLK of 100MHz controls a lot of other frequencies in an Intel and when you can't adjust the multiplier for a lot of them upping the base clock could equal disaster. Most notably on the PCIe bus.
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November 13, 2012 12:18:43 AM

stickg1 said:
Yeah but 9 times out of 10 they are very unstable when you get over 103-105 BCLK on a Sandy/Ivy Bridge. You might squeeze off a benchmark or two but as far as 24/7 stability it is hard to achieve and usually takes a golden chip. The BCLK of 100MHz controls a lot of other frequencies in an Intel and when you can't adjust the multiplier for a lot of them upping the base clock could equal disaster. Most notably on the PCIe bus.


read the article. or at least the first line under the graphic. the overclocking is multiplier overclocking on z67/77 and p67 boards. you can on top of that overclock with the baseclock.
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November 13, 2012 1:56:20 AM

cbrunnem said:
read the article. or at least the first line under the graphic. the overclocking is multiplier overclocking on z67/77 and p67 boards. you can on top of that overclock with the baseclock.


This is the first time I have even heard of this , and quick search didnt get me any other sites than the one you mention .
I dont think that information is correct

Have YOU made that kind of overclock on a locked intel processor?
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November 13, 2012 2:32:19 AM

Outlander_04 said:
This is the first time I have even heard of this , and quick search didnt get me any other sites than the one you mention .
I dont think that information is correct

Have YOU made that kind of overclock on a locked intel processor?


no but ive walked people through it with the exact results the article explains you should get. so no i do not have personal experience.
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November 13, 2012 2:47:40 AM

cbrunnem said:
no but ive walked people through it with the exact results the article explains you should get. so no i do not have personal experience.



I have read that page you linked a few times and there are instructions and setting for overclocking a 2500K and some other processors .

Theres a chart that says you can increase the turbo boost on locked processors
but there are no instructions on how to do that that I have been able to find
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November 13, 2012 4:48:41 PM

wow more replies than i though, thanks for the advice guys, so one thing that i will change is the psu, thanks for the input on that. the more i read into this the more im leaning towards the amd build.
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