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September 17, 2012 5:58:08 PM

Hi guys, Ok, I need to upgrade from my crappy Nvidia Geforce Graphics card, i have found out my PSU is only 80 watts, do you know of a compatable card that would be an upgrade, ideally i'd like to be able to play Sims 3, according to what I've read everything else on my pc is enough to play it but the card is not, not sure if you needed any of this


Machine name: ANDY-PC
Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_gdr.120503-2030)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: Packard Bell
System Model: imedia S3720
BIOS: Default System BIOS
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q8300 @ 2.50GHz (4 CPUs), ~2.5GHz
Memory: 3072MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 2816MB RAM
Page File: 2290MB used, 3337MB available
Windows Dir: C:\Windows
DirectX Version: DirectX 11
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
User DPI Setting: 120 DPI (125 percent)
System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
DxDiag Version: 6.01.7601.17514 64bit Unicode

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DxDiag Notes
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Display Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 2: No problems found.
Sound Tab 3: No problems found.
Input Tab: No problems found.

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DirectX Debug Levels
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Direct3D: 0/4 (retail)
DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (retail)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (retail)
DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow: 0/6 (retail)








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Display Devices
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Card name: NVIDIA GeForce 7100 / NVIDIA nForce 630i
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip type: GeForce 7100 / nForce 630i
DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_07E1&SUBSYS_027C1025&REV_A2
Display Memory: 1401 MB
Dedicated Memory: 249 MB
Shared Memory: 1151 MB
Current Mode: 1920 x 1080 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor Name: Generic PnP Monitor
Monitor Model: S22B350
Monitor Id: SAM08D3
Native Mode: 1920 x 1080(p) (60.000Hz)
Output Type: HD15
Driver Name: nvd3dumx.dll,nvd3dum
Driver File Version: 8.17.0012.5896 (English)
Driver Version: 8.17.12.5896
DDI Version: 9Ex
Driver Model: WDDM 1.0
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 7/10/2010 05:38:00, 12471400 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
WHQL Date Stamp:
Device Identifier: {D7B71E3E-44A1-11CF-9D64-70221CC2C535}
Vendor ID: 0x10DE
Device ID: 0x07E1
SubSys ID: 0x027C1025
Revision ID: 0x00A2
Driver Strong Name: oem21.inf:NVIDIA_SetB_Devices.NTamd64.6.0:Section001:8.17.12.5896:p ci\ven_10de&dev_07e1
Rank Of Driver: 00E62001

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September 17, 2012 6:03:14 PM

I highly doubt your PSU is 80 watts. Don't think you can power a full desktop PC with that unless it's a special low-power build. If it really is 80W, you cannot put a discrete graphics card in your system as even the lowest end GPUs will draw 40W of power or so.

What's its make and model?
a b U Graphics card
September 17, 2012 6:09:14 PM

You psu is NOT 80w, because you cpu uses more than 80w alone. lol


Take a picture of the sticker on the side of the psu (need to open left side of case, left side as in if your looking at it from the front) take a picture of the sticker and post it on here.

Is this one of those compact computer? If so you'll need to buy a new case and transfer all the components to fit any decent graphics cards. I do know a Geforce 210 low profile will fit but it's nothing that's gonna blow you away for sure.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=E...
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September 17, 2012 6:16:48 PM

I just opened up the side and the only thing I can find with a tattage word says do not exceed 80 watts... I assumed that's what it meant, it says it's a HYPRO HPD250AA0 so would that make it a 250watt? sorry camera wont focus close enough
September 17, 2012 6:17:13 PM

sorry a Hipro
September 17, 2012 6:18:43 PM

it's fine it is a compact case, i only wanted to be able to play Sims 3 i'm not desperate to spend money lol.
September 17, 2012 6:21:41 PM

250W sounds right... junk 200-300W power supplies are typically what prebuilt non-gaming desktops like yours come with.

You could probably get away with a really low power card like an HD 7750, which doesn't really draw more than 50W of power and doesn't need external PCI-e power connectors from the PSU.

IMO you should upgrade your power supply anyways... you can get a nice budget one for like $35:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
September 17, 2012 6:24:27 PM

thatnks, as always i really appreciate your time and quick replies
September 17, 2012 6:28:04 PM

Oh sorry, one more question, the graphics card you said it's a radeon, does it matter that mine is an Nvidia Geforce and I think it's sort of inbuilt rather than a physical card? would that be right?
September 17, 2012 6:32:45 PM

the Radeon HD 7750 is yet another card not on the list able to play sims 3, is there a reason none of the cards i find will play this bloody game, there seems to be a really narrow field of cards it will run on
September 17, 2012 6:35:51 PM

Don't think that matters - if you have a PCI-e x16 expansion slot on your motherboard, you can put a radeon card in it. If you want a low power Nvidia card, the GT 650 is a good option - similar performance to the 7750 and similar power consumption.
September 17, 2012 6:36:27 PM

hypnobiz said:
the Radeon HD 7750 is yet another card not on the list able to play sims 3, is there a reason none of the cards i find will play this bloody game, there seems to be a really narrow field of cards it will run on


???

Where are you getting your info? A 7750 will play the sims 3.
September 17, 2012 6:48:36 PM

i have an Nvidia Geforce 7100 would that play it? I just do a search for Sims 3 System requirements every search on all sites brings up the same list of cards, I did wonder if this may not have been changed since the game came out in 2009 and cards are obviously better now, do you happen to know if the 7100 would play it?
September 17, 2012 6:51:55 PM

I doubt the 7100 will really play anything... that's a horribly weak card that is most likely weaker than today's integrated graphics.

The 7750 will play the sims 3 just fine. You don't need to find a list of GPUs to know if something will work, especially since those lists are only rarely updated after a game is released.
September 17, 2012 6:53:36 PM

MINIMUM SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS FOR PC:
FOR WINDOWS XP (Service Pack 2)
Pentium IV 2.0 GHz / Athlon XP 2000+ or equivalent
1GB RAM of Memory
At least 6.5 GB of hard drive space with at least 1 GB additional space for custom content
128 MB Video Card with support for Pixel Shader 2.0
The latest version of DirectX 9.0c
FOR WINDOWS VISTA (Service Pack 1)
Pentium IV 2.4 GHz / Athlon XP 2400+ or equivalent
1.5 GB RAM of Memory
At least 6.5 GB of hard drive space with at least 1 GB additional space for custom content
128 MB Video Card with support for Pixel Shader 2.0
The latest version of DirectX 9.0c
FOR COMPUTERS USING BUILT-IN GRAPHICS CHIPSETS, THE GAME REQUIRES AT LEAST
Intel Integrated Chipset, GMA X3000 or above (GMA 3-series or higher).
2.6 GHz Pentium D CPU, or 1.8 GHz Core 2 Duo, or equivalent
1.5 GB RAM (XP), 2 GB RAM (Vista)
SUPPORTED VIDEO CARDS FOR PC:
NVIDIA GeForce series
FX 5900, FX 5950
6200, 6500, 6600, 6800
7200, 7300, 7600, 7800, 7900, 7950
8400, 8500, 8600, 8800
9300, 9400, 9500, 9600, 9800
G100, GT 120, GT 130, GTS 150, GTS 250, GTX 260, GTX 280, GTX 285, GTX 295
ATI Radeon™ series
9500, 9600, 9800
X300, X600, X700, X800, X850
X1300, X1600, X1800, X1900, X1950
2400, 2600, 2900
3450, 3650, 3850, 3870,
4850, 4870
Intel® Extreme Graphics
GMA X3x00 series (3-Series GMA), GMA 4-Series
Laptop versions of these chipsets may work, but may run comparatively slower. Standalone cards that are installed in vanilla PCI slots (not PCIe or PCIx or AGP), such as some GeForce FX variants, will perform poorly. Intel integrated chipsets featuring underclocked parts will not perform adequately.
Integrated chipsets such as the ATI Xpress and the NVIDIA TurboCache variants will have low settings selected, but should run satisfactorily.
Please note that attempting to play the game using video hardware that isn’t listed above may result in reduced performance, graphical issues or cause the game to not run at all.

I run windows 7 and apparently that is the same as Vista as for what cards will work, those are the same stats on every site i can find
a b U Graphics card
September 17, 2012 6:55:19 PM

I'd like to know how your going to fit a HD7750 in that case. You need a LOW PROFILE video card.
September 17, 2012 6:56:23 PM

So to be on the safe side upgrade my Power suply and the Radeon card will run sims 3, that's brilliant, you sir, are a genius,
September 17, 2012 7:11:09 PM

looks like it... all those 3 I linked are low profile
September 17, 2012 7:22:22 PM

Yup that's low profile.
a c 109 U Graphics card
September 17, 2012 7:28:21 PM

You have to ensure it comes with the low profile bracket(contact the seller if needed) if you need one.
Low profile card(Single slot) on non low profile card(dual slot. some low profile cards come in dual slot as well)


Also watch for cards that are thicker then one slot because it looks like your card is at the bottom of the system.

Your system almost looks to have an SFX power supply(a power supply commonly found if SFF systems and in my own media center :)  ), but at the same time it looks too thin almost.

Can you get a picture of your power supply?

Does it by any chance look like this(size).
http://www.amazon.com/FSP-Certified-300-Watt-Supply-FSP...

Better images here
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...
September 17, 2012 7:47:18 PM

after finally getting me sorted i checked and the size of the cage holding my power supply is too small for the one you recommended any the cage seems to be attached as part of the frame of the pc too so i am not sure i could attach the new bigger one with no cage... Maybe I'm destined to have to put up with my cheap ass pc haha. new one is 15x14x8.6 my cage is 13.5x13x6.8
a c 109 U Graphics card
September 17, 2012 8:10:13 PM

Well that seems to be off the standard SFX(common SFF power supply.)

12.5(W) X 10.0 (D) X 6.35 (H) CM

Damn would have been to easy huh.
a b U Graphics card
September 18, 2012 12:25:46 PM

hypnobiz said:
after finally getting me sorted i checked and the size of the cage holding my power supply is too small for the one you recommended any the cage seems to be attached as part of the frame of the pc too so i am not sure i could attach the new bigger one with no cage... Maybe I'm destined to have to put up with my cheap ass pc haha. new one is 15x14x8.6 my cage is 13.5x13x6.8


That's what I tried to tell you.

All you have to do is buy a cheap case for $20 and transfer your parts.
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