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November 13, 2012 10:38:27 PM

Approximate Purchase Date: In the next 2 weeks

Budget Range: $1500CAN before rebates and shipping. Lower the better

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, Surfing the net, watching movies

Are you buying a monitor: No monitor needed right now


Do you need to buy OS: Yes

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: ncix.com

Location: Miramichi NB Canada

Parts Preferences: Intel

Overclocking: Maybe

SLI or Crossfire: Maybe

Your Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080

Additional Comments: A nice PC that is decent and on the quieter side. Also must look nice.

This is being built for a friend who only ever used crappy HP comps and consoles for gaming. Like to make him a nice comp that will last a few years without alot of upgrading or hassle.

Case: $79.99
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=65970&vpn=BFC%2DRDR%2...

CPU:$219.99
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=70541&promoi...

MotherBoard:$199.99
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=69883&promoi...

GPU:$389.99
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=67172&promoi...

PSU:$129.99 overkill but a decent price
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=44873&promoi...

RAM: $67.99 Not sure if this is worth it, maybe go with less
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=66354&promoi...

HDD: $99.99
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=50895&promoi...

CPU Cooler: $29.99 Again not sure about this one.
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=64385&promoi...

OS: $97.99
Windows 7 64bit home

Thermal Compound: $9.99 Not sure on thermal compounds.
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=26895

Grand total of $1325.90 before taxes and shipping.

Some of these items seem like overkill and primarily choose them because of price.

Also is it worth it to get an I7 Ivy over a I5 Ivy?

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November 13, 2012 10:42:32 PM

No, it isn't worth it to get an i7. For gaming i5 = i7
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November 13, 2012 11:07:30 PM

get this combo
http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=76817&vpn=BX8063...

ram
http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=74758&vpn=PV38G1...

if you want the intel edition, it costs nothing more
http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=74756&vpn=PVI38G...

dvd drive
http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=76258&vpn=SH%2D2...

a better case
http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=75044&vpn=R4%2DB...

hard drive. i use seagate. WD has no performance boost
http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=58746&vpn=ST3100...

your psu is old. not the best and totally overkill. get this one
http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=62224&vpn=P1750B...

SSD. price match it to ncix if there is no CC store near you
http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=1...

keep the video card that you have put into your build

keep the cooler you have right now

skip the thermal paste.


id actually wait for ncix to have their black friday sale. always a awesome deal out there. the case is still safe to buy
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November 14, 2012 12:10:42 AM

http://pcpartpicker.com/ca/p/nECm

CPU i5-3570K $219.99 http://pcpartpicker.com/ca/part/intel-cpu-bx80637i53570...
CPU Cooler Zalman CNPS10X OPTIMA $29.99 http://pcpartpicker.com/ca/part/zalman-cpu-cooler-cnps1...
Motherboard MSI Z77A-G45 ATX $114.99 http://pcpartpicker.com/ca/part/msi-motherboard-z77ag45
Memory Corsair Vengeance 2x4GB DDR3-1600 $34.99 http://pcpartpicker.com/ca/part/corsair-memory-cmz8gx3m...
Storage Samsung 830 128GB $105.98 http://pcpartpicker.com/ca/part/samsung-internal-hard-d...
Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB $74.99 http://pcpartpicker.com/ca/part/western-digital-interna...
Video Card (Crossfire) Gigabyte WindForce Radeon 7870 2x$234.99 http://pcpartpicker.com/ca/part/gigabyte-video-card-gvr...
Case Zalman Z11 Plus ATX Mid Tower $69.99 http://pcpartpicker.com/ca/part/zalman-case-z11plus
Power Supply XFX ProSeries 750W 80 PLUS Silver ATX12V/EPS12V $104.99 http://pcpartpicker.com/ca/part/xfx-power-supply-p1750b...
Optical Drive Samsung SH-224BB 24X SATA DVD Writer Black $23.98 http://ncix.ca/products/?sku=76258&vpn=SH-224BB%2FBEBE&...

Total: $1269.87


NCIX doesn't have the best prices on all of the components that I would have preferred, but I think that it worked out excellently nonetheless.

With AMD's recent driver release of Catalyst 12.11 beta 7, Crossfire support, which was already very good overall, got a significant improvement to excellent and two 7870s such as what I put in this build will beat any and all single GPU solutions in gaming performance. Even better, these are well factory-overclocked 7870s, not mere reference 7870s. Micro-stutter and such really isn't a big deal overall with the 28nm GPU generation, especially with higher end cards such as the 7870s.

The i5-3570K is about as fast as the i5-2500K for overclocking while using less power.
The Zalman CNPS10X OPTIMA is a better cooler than the Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo.

Pretty much any good-quality 2x4GB DDR3-1600 or higher (preferably with 9-9-9-24 timings or lower) kit will do and that's what this memory kit is.

Samsung 830 is one of the fastest SATA3 SSDs, but more importantly, it's one of the most reliable consumer SSDs available. A 128GB model wil be an excellent boot drive with a few programs and files.

Western Digital's Caviar Blue line might not be faster than Seagate's newer Barracuda's but it's at least just as fast and more importantly, it's more reliable. This 1TB model is not an exception to that.

This case is one of the best cases available for its price and even compared to many cases that are more expenisve, so when I noticed the build cost getting a little close to the budget's maximum, I knew that it'd serve well as a cheap yet highly effective case choice.

The XFX Proseries 750W 80 PLUS Silver P1-750S-NLB9 is one of the top-quality PSUs available. It's highly energy efficient, modular, and has plenty of power delivery for this build.

I just went with the cheapest DVD drive on ncix.ca
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November 14, 2012 12:24:40 AM

the crucial is one of the slower faster performing drives if that makes any sense. the samsung 830 is a better option
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November 14, 2012 12:52:50 AM

TheBigTroll said:
the crucial is one of the slower faster performing drives if that makes any sense. the samsung 830 is a better option


True. When I first started the build, I didn't think that I could fit the Samsung 830 in. I'll put it in now.
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November 14, 2012 11:47:39 AM

Thanks for the replies guys. You have helped alot.

My friend and I are kinda stuck on the Betfinix Case. It looks nice and doesn't have any doors. Really don't like doors from my first comp I built.

Might just go with one Windforce GPU. I think he would be happy and saving a few hundred as well would help.

I wasn't sure on using and SSD but from the research I was doing, it is a must.

NCIX might not have the best prices but they have price match.

If he was wanting a new monitor for $200 (he has a pretty crappy one now) what would be the best option to go for?
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November 14, 2012 7:21:19 PM

the problem with the bitfenix case is that the front is curved, making a optical drive stick out weirdly. not to mention the narrow grommets. my friend has one

id get a PA238Q or the PA238QR but these are for medium gaming and for a better image quality rather than pure speed
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November 14, 2012 10:52:44 PM

Thanks for the info about the case TheBigTroll.

We had a second case picked out.
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=62757&vpn=CC%2D901101...

I like this case alot. Has anyone used it or made a build with it? Should I up my budget on the case?
Any cases we should be looking at? I have the HAF932 myself and it is great but a full tower is too big for his needs. Need a nice Mid-Tower.

Also thanks for the info on monitors. Don't know much about them.
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November 14, 2012 11:36:37 PM

hot house. gets hotter than a quiet case like the fractal define R4 (which is built better, cheaper, and is cooler) avoid at all costs.
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November 14, 2012 11:55:09 PM

I haven't used it myself, but from what I've heard and read about it, that
Corsair Carbide 500R is a good case. However, I'm a little more partial to the Antec Three Hundred Two V3 and some Fractal cases.
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November 15, 2012 12:23:42 AM

id rather get a fractal case when its 89.99 and is quiet and will not run hot
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November 15, 2012 12:50:53 AM

Do the Corsair 500r as a case. Fits the h100 and is quite slick.
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November 15, 2012 9:31:57 AM

the h100 is poor mans watercooling. either do custom or forget it
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November 15, 2012 12:12:55 PM

No water cooling here.

Ok here is an updated list.

Case: $89.99
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=75044&promoi...

HDD: $74.99
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=74462&promoi...

DDR3: $38.99
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=74756&promoi...

CPU/Motherboard Bundle: $449.00
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=76817

DVD Drive: $17.99
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=76258&promoi...

PSU: $89.99
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=76258&promoi...

GPU: $234.99 Only one for now
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=69492

CPU Cooler: $29.99 Have a hyper212 on my 920 and it works great
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=64385&promoi...

SSD: $149.99
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=71916&promoi...

OS: $97.99
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=45271&promoi...

Trying to convince him to get a new monitor
Monitor: 184.00
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=74115

With monitor 1440.00 before taxes and shipping. Little high

With out monitor: 1256.00 before taxes and shipping
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November 15, 2012 12:30:15 PM

My buddy is happy with the $1440 price. Can price match a few things and save a few dollars.

Anything you think should be changed?

We are also going to wait till Black Friday so I hope we can knock the price down a few more dollars. Just good to get a good idea before the sale starts.
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November 15, 2012 11:25:28 PM

Are you talking USD 1500 or CAD 1500 so i can figure out watcha need
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November 16, 2012 12:16:50 AM

OP's first post specifies that budget is in Canadian dollars.
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November 16, 2012 12:56:17 AM

not in Canada. they are a terrible value. remember we have 13% tax
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November 23, 2012 4:44:56 AM

What we went with.

CPU and Motherboard: $349.00/ $319.00 after rebate
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=77514&vpn=Z7...

Monitor: $139.99
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=57310&vpn=VE...

PSU: $124.99/ $99.99 after rebate
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=77575&vpn=CP...

GPU: $209.99 / $189.99 after rebate
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=69828&vpn=FX...

RAM: $19.89 (we actually paid $34.89, not sure how but the price changed in since I ordered)
Patriot Viper 3 8GB 2X4GB PC3-12800 DDR3-1600 9-9-9-24 1.5V Dual Channel Memory Kit - Black Mamba (sold out, no link)

SSD: $149.99
Samsung 840 Pro Series 128GB 2.5in SATA3 MDX Solid State Disk Flash Drive SSD (sold out, no link)

Case: $89.99
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=75044&vpn=R4%2DBlack&...

CPU Heastsink: $29.99
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=64385&vpn=RR%2D212E%2...

HDD: $99.99 (went on sale after for $89.99)
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=50895&vpn=WD1002FAEX&...

Windows 7 home 64 bit OS for $97.99

Came out to $1337.80 before taxes and rebates.
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November 23, 2012 5:14:33 AM

We did get the ram for $34.89 with a $15 dollar mail in rebate.
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November 23, 2012 10:54:52 AM

the xfx xxx 750w is just as good for 74.99 after MIR. so much cheaper for the same thing

should have gotten the z77-v Lk + i5 3570k combo. much cheaper for about the same features

the 840 pro is great but at 149.99 its a ripoff really

the seagate was half the price. no point of paying double for just more warranty
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November 23, 2012 12:41:05 PM

Well the 840 got us free shipping for entire order and a few free games for my friend, also a free $25 gift card.

Was shopping late last night and I made a few errors in my judgment but I think it is a solid build and much cheaper than I was figuring.

Wasn't sure on seagate drives as I never dealt with them. It was probably the better deal but I ordered what I was familiar with.

Thanks for the help TheBigTroll.
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November 23, 2012 12:41:35 PM

Forgot the DVD drive though :faceplam:
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November 24, 2012 1:45:53 AM

Best answer selected by Limper.
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