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November 13, 2012 11:08:27 PM

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/nDyy

I originally thought this was a great build, but recently I started having doubts (I have OCD), and now I'm wondering if I made a mistake somewhere and will bottleneck it down the road. I only have one monitor, but I might get more a few years down the road, and so I was wondering if sticking another 7970 in there would be enough for that, or if I need more. Z77 motherboards that support 4 way CrossFireX are $150+ more than the UP5 TH which is already pretty expensive, but now I'm starting to wonder if I should have gone with a more expensive mobo. Any help appreciated.

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November 13, 2012 11:21:53 PM

No need at ll to get 2 7970's. You are only using 1 monitor.
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November 13, 2012 11:23:26 PM

I'd say you are in good shape. Next year both AMD and Nvidia are coming out with a new set of video cards about 50% more powerful than the present ones. So, in two years when you want a multi monitor setup, you can SLI/Crossfire a pair of 780's or 8970's.
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November 13, 2012 11:43:19 PM

So do you think my system is solid? I don't think that the $150 extra for 4-way is worth it, but I'm not completely sure. I'm gonna game on a single monitor for a while, but at the same time if I decide to upgrade down the road I don't want the mobo bottlenecking the system.
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November 14, 2012 12:20:57 AM

Btw, how well will this system run games like Skyrim with lots of graphics mods?
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November 14, 2012 12:44:17 AM

Bump?
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November 14, 2012 1:01:18 AM

This is my first build too so any help appreciated :) 
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November 14, 2012 1:08:48 AM

Drop the 1866MHz ram to 1600 - intel gets no benefit past there.

You spent WAY too much on the motherboard - I'd get a Z77X-UD3H.

I would also drop less on the case, and, unless you REALLY need the few features you get with Win 8 Pro, get home premium.

Since you have some money to play with, I'd consider getting a 500GB hard drive and a larger SSD - there are a lot of games that are really nice to have installed to an SSD.
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November 14, 2012 1:23:45 AM

DarkSable said:
Drop the 1866MHz ram to 1600 - intel gets no benefit past there.

You spent WAY too much on the motherboard - I'd get a Z77X-UD3H.

I would also drop less on the case, and, unless you REALLY need the few features you get with Win 8 Pro, get home premium.

Since you have some money to play with, I'd consider getting a 500GB hard drive and a larger SSD - there are a lot of games that are really nice to have installed to an SSD.

See, my problem is I'm not sure if I spent enough on the mobo. I keep wondering if I should have gone with the UP7, which is $150 more and supports 4 SLI (Which I'll probably never use, but I may go multi-monitor down the road and I'm not sure if dual crossfire cuts it for that).
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November 14, 2012 11:26:41 AM

And what do you think of the pricing?
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November 14, 2012 2:44:50 PM

Any help appreciated guys :( 
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November 14, 2012 6:43:57 PM

Bump
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November 14, 2012 7:37:23 PM

Really sorry for double bump, I really need input guys
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November 14, 2012 7:51:23 PM

Four way SLI/CrossFire is sort of ridiculous. Your motherboard allows three boards which will be fine. You need a 1000W power supply if you plan on going three-way. Check this link for several great Platinium 1000W supplies:

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=EN...

I recommend platinum because of this. Let's say you are using a full 900W in a three-way system, a Bronze will be burning 1125W to give you that 900W. That's 225W of wasted power being pumped into your room and radiating up into your case. A Platinum will be burning 978W for a wasted 78W. That's about one third the wasted power. 225W is like three 75W bulbs just sitting there, burning and producing heat.

For Quad you need a 1200W supply but from reviews I have seen, four way can actually be slower or only 10% faster, very wasteful.

Again, a top of the line HD7970 will do fine on a 1920X1080 display. When you go to a triple monitor setup, you will need three of them or two of the upcomming 8970's to keep them at 60+ FPS.
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November 14, 2012 8:04:47 PM

See, the thing is I don't think most Z77 mobos support three way CrossFireX, the only ones that do are extremely expensive, around the same price as the X79 boards. Do you think 2 cards will be enough for me?
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November 14, 2012 8:27:02 PM

vance09 said:
See, the thing is I don't think most Z77 mobos support three way CrossFireX, the only ones that do are extremely expensive, around the same price as the X79 boards. Do you think 2 cards will be enough for me?


I'm hardly an expert. What I did was duplicate your build in pcpartpicker and entered three boards and it said it is compatible. I tried lessor motherboards and it squacked that the lessor board couldn't handle three video cards.

As I said, I think a top of the line 7970GHZ edition will be fine for any 1920X1200 or lessor display, but for triple display gaming, even two of them can be down to 20 odd FPS with real demanding games. But if you plan on going to multiple monitors next year, AMD and Nvidia will have a new family of yet more powerful graphics cards and the 7970's will be much cheaper. You will have your choice of either three way CF with 7970's or two way CF/SLI with the latest new generation video cards.
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November 14, 2012 8:45:14 PM

babernet_1 said:
I'm hardly an expert. What I did was duplicate your build in pcpartpicker and entered three boards and it said it is compatible. I tried lessor motherboards and it squacked that the lessor board couldn't handle three video cards.

As I said, I think a top of the line 7970GHZ edition will be fine for any 1920X1200 or lessor display, but for triple display gaming, even two of them can be down to 20 odd FPS with real demanding games. But if you plan on going to multiple monitors next year, AMD and Nvidia will have a new family of yet more powerful graphics cards and the 7970's will be much cheaper. You will have your choice of either three way CF with 7970's or two way CF/SLI with the latest new generation video cards.


Wow, I think you may be right, thanks a lot! Also, how much performance decrease can you expect if you have 3-way crossfire running at 8x 4x 4x?
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November 14, 2012 8:53:45 PM

vance09 said:
Wow, I think you may be right, thanks a lot! Also, how much performance decrease can you expect if you have 3-way crossfire running at 8x 4x 4x?


Sorry, don't understand the question.
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November 14, 2012 8:59:35 PM

babernet_1 said:
Sorry, don't understand the question.

If all three PCI-E slots are filled, the bandwidth becomes 8x 4x 4x, whereas it is usually 16x with just one card or 8x 8x with two cards.
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November 14, 2012 9:05:45 PM

Thanks, from what I have read, graphics cards don't come close to using the BW of the PCI interface. Most of the data is traveling across video ram in the card and its graphics processor, not so much across the PCI interface.
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November 14, 2012 9:08:57 PM

OK, thank you so much. So you think I should pull the trigger on this build then?
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November 14, 2012 9:27:40 PM

vance09 said:
OK, thank you so much. So you think I should pull the trigger on this build then?


No, you should forget about this and just send me the money! Go for it, you won't need the new graphics processors so go for it now.
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November 14, 2012 10:13:14 PM

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November 14, 2012 10:13:33 PM

Haha, will do, thanks a bunch!
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November 14, 2012 10:19:06 PM

vance09 said:
Haha, will do, thanks a bunch!


Good luck and I feel your pain. I have been agonizing for months on my upcoming build. Will be pulling the trigger next week. I've spent months reading reviews, spending hours a day on this site, going over newegg so often they are placing a web hub next to my house!


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November 14, 2012 11:10:45 PM

WAIT!!!! DON'T DO IT!!!

That case is hideous - are you sure you want to live with all that fake plastic armor crap? For that price you could get a nice Corsair or Lian Li that doesn't look like Optimus Prime trying to hide under your desk.
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November 14, 2012 11:26:00 PM

Lol, beauty is in the eye of the builder, haha. I think it looks great, plus reviews have been excellent on it. Also, it's full tower (bordering on super tower), so I can add anything I need as I go along.
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November 14, 2012 11:33:52 PM

And it's a steel chassis, with some plastic design on the outside.
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