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November 14, 2012 1:06:08 AM

approximate Purchase Date: November 21 to November 26 (due to Newegg Nov21 sales) but I may start buying before Nov 21 if I find very good deals

Budget Range: $1000-1350

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, surfing the internet

Are you buying a monitor: Nope

Parts to Upgrade: None

Do you need to buy OS: Yes

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Newegg

Location: Bronx, N.Y.

Parts Preferences: All are fine

Overclocking: Yes

SLI or Crossfire: In the future I might

Your Monitor Resolution: 1920 x 1080p (Full HD TV and refresh rate of 60 Hz)

Additional Comments: I would like some help on whether these parts will connect well and work, along with how i can improve the build.

Would like to play games like Skyrim with mods, guild wars 2, and many games on steam with some mods. I prefer a stable 60 fps at high to ultra settings.


What i got so far is

Case: COOLER MASTER HAF 932 Advanced Blue Edition $179.99

GPU: MSI N670 PE 2GD5/OC GeForce GTX 670 2GB $389.99

Mobo: MSI Z77A-G45 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS $119.99

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz $219.99

CPU cooler: COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO $31.99

Thermal compound: Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver Thermal Compound AS5-3.5G - OEM $9.99

PSU: Rosewill LIGHTNING Series LIGHTNING-800 800W $129.99

RAM: G.SKILL Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 $37.99

HDD: Need help choosing one

SSD: Crucial M4 CT128M4SSD2 2.5" 128GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) $109.99

OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM $99.99

Subtotal: $1,329.90 (According to Newegg)


Thanks.
November 14, 2012 1:21:07 AM

I own an Intel 330 ssd, but I'd recommend Samsung 830/840. Crucial m4 is OK, but you can get a better one that is cheaper. I bought the 330 for $100usd. In Taiwan, we don't have Samsung ssd.

Everything else looks great, but you'll probably want a HDD too. If I bought one today, at your budget, I'd get a 1tb western digital blue or black. Best out there and very reliable.
November 14, 2012 1:22:43 AM

^+1 to him.

Everything looks okay, but if you're willing to pay that much for a 128gb SSD, get the OCZ Vertex 4 128gb.

Get a 7970 instead. It's at the same price as the 670, but has better performance and a higher bus rate and VRAM. Many people have claimed modding Skyrim goes over even 2.5gb of VRAM.
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November 14, 2012 1:33:18 AM

You defently don't need that big of a psu, you can get away with a 550w
November 14, 2012 1:39:48 AM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($169.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($26.55 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77-D3H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($37.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial M4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($89.99 @ Microcenter)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition 3GB Video Card ($409.66 @ NCIX US)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 932 Advanced ATX Full Tower Case ($146.76 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 750W 80 PLUS Silver Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($109.99 @ NCIX US)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1240.90
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-11-13 22:39 EST-0500)
November 14, 2012 1:44:31 AM

okay i decided to add the Western Digital WD Black at $109.99

and a SAMSUNG 830 Series 64GB SATA III at $49.99

As for the HD 7970 3GB I will see which version (sapphire, Powercolor) I like best, Although I do Prefer Nvidia over AMD (but the 3 free games for buying the HD 7979 is very tempting)
November 14, 2012 1:52:18 AM

The Seagate 1TB I listed in my build is on sale for $50, which is a steal. It's definitely not worth the extra $60 to get the Caviar Black, which will run hotter and won't give you any noticeable improvement for your secondary storage.
November 14, 2012 2:02:25 AM

^Even so, AMD sweeps nvidia's performance with this round of cards, is cheaper, and has the games. It's worth it.
November 14, 2012 2:04:43 AM

The Seagate 1TB for $50 is very good. I also going to look at the "XFX 750W PRO750W XXX Edition Single Rail ATX 12V 62A 24PIN ATX Modular Power Supply 80PLUS Silver"
or other 750W modular PSU for good discount for the next few days. i was able to find a cheaper HAF 932 advance thanks to ckholt83. Now I will need to focus on a 3GB GPU such as the HD 7970 3Gb that excella1221 recommended.

Thanks for all the advice everyone!
November 14, 2012 2:10:09 AM

ckholt83 said:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($169.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($26.55 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77-D3H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($37.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial M4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($89.99 @ Microcenter)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition 3GB Video Card ($409.66 @ NCIX US)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 932 Advanced ATX Full Tower Case ($146.76 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 750W 80 PLUS Silver Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($109.99 @ NCIX US)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1240.90
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-11-13 22:39 EST-0500)


microcenter is instore purchase only and there is one in about a 30 minute drive.

for directions go here @OP
http://www.microcenter.com/site/stores/westbury.aspx

and i will say it is worth the 30 minute drive

go to the microcenter and find an i5 3570k and get the ASrock extreme4(should be under $300 for just that)

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($26.55 @ NCIX US)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($37.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Kingston HyperX 3K 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($91.75 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition 3GB Video Card ($409.66 @ NCIX US)
Case: Cooler Master HAF XM (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($107.16 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 850W 80 PLUS Silver Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($119.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($99.99 @ Mac Mall)
Total: $961.07
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-11-13 23:09 EST-0500)

leaving out CPU and Mobo as you will should grab them at microcenter
November 14, 2012 2:23:22 AM

Okay for the GPU i decided on Radeon HD 7970 3GB (which brings 3 great games! for free). Now i need to figure out if all the the parts will be compatible with each other and if the Radeon HD 7970 3GB will fit in the case (single and, if i decide to go crossfire, 2 7970s (i hear that these cards are big though). Also, i prefer to buy online, and i plan to buy most or all of these parts on newegg since i know for sure that they don't include Taxes if shipped to N.Y.

Edit: I was wondering if it would be better to buy 2 64GB SSD and use Raid 0 (i think that is the name) or jsut buy a 128 GB SSD. Either one is the same price, $100 for both 64GB or for one 128GB SSD
November 14, 2012 3:24:24 AM

echeneis said:
Okay for the GPU i decided on Radeon HD 7970 3GB (which brings 3 great games! for free). Now i need to figure out if all the the parts will be compatible with each other and if the Radeon HD 7970 3GB will fit in the case (single and, if i decide to go crossfire, 2 7970s (i hear that these cards are big though). Also, i prefer to buy online, and i plan to buy most or all of these parts on newegg since i know for sure that they don't include Taxes if shipped to N.Y.

Edit: I was wondering if it would be better to buy 2 64GB SSD and use Raid 0 (i think that is the name) or jsut buy a 128 GB SSD. Either one is the same price, $100 for both 64GB or for one 128GB SSD


no it is not worth it. a 128GB SSD is technically already in a raid because it is just more memory but if you get another 64GB to raid with it, it will no support trim which is suppose to keep the SSD up to speed
November 14, 2012 4:11:39 AM

boulbox said:
no it is not worth it. a 128GB SSD is technically already in a raid because it is just more memory but if you get another 64GB to raid with it, it will no support trim which is suppose to keep the SSD up to speed


thanks

i am now looking at whether or not the parts can connect. for the PSU it says

1 x 20+4-Pin Main Connector
1 x 4+4-Pin ATX12V/EPS12V Connector
6 x 6+2-Pin PCI-E Connector
10 x 4-Pin Peripheral Connector
10 x 5-Pin SATA Connector
2 x 4-Pin Floppy Connector

whereas the the Mobo has ATX 24-Pin power connector

this means that the PSU (from my first post on this thread) won't be able to connect to and power the mobo (MSI Z77A-G45 LGA 1155 Intel Z77)?
November 14, 2012 4:15:01 AM

you have a 20+4 pin which equals to a 24 pin the 4+4 pin is for another connector called the 8 pin on the mobo.(8 pin for yours anyways sometimes other mobos use less like a 4 pin
November 14, 2012 4:19:10 AM

boulbox said:
you have a 20+4 pin which equals to a 24 pin the 4+4 pin is for another connector called the 8 pin on the mobo.(8 pin for yours anyways sometimes other mobos use less like a 4 pin


Thanks.
November 14, 2012 2:05:43 PM

Buy a 120/128 GB ssd and you won't regret it. Skip Kingston though.

You got a great build, should be fun.
November 14, 2012 2:16:15 PM

Rosewill power supplies have been nicknamed "black death." They're pretty unreliable and at $139.99 you have a LOT of options available to you.

The XFX mentioned is a good one. Many XFX power supplies use Seasonic parts. The cabling and connectors are provided by XFX and are generally of higher quality than you would get from Seasonic.

I personally like Antec power supplies. I have a 650 Watt that has been in 3 different builds. It's close to 7 years old now and still going.

I replaced it in my main rig last fall with an Antec High Current Gamer 900 Watt. Newegg had a great special on it.
November 14, 2012 2:46:39 PM

envy14tpe said:
Buy a 120/128 GB ssd and you won't regret it. Skip Kingston though.

You got a great build, should be fun.


why skip kindston they are great. i hate the kind of people that only stick to one or two options where there are a lot of other good options like the kingston hyperx 3k which out performs a samsung 830 also need to mention A-data premier pro since it is at the price range of a samsung 830 and is faster than it.

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/a-data-internal-hard-drive...
November 14, 2012 4:00:54 PM

If you really only use it for gaming and surfing the net you can certainly get a 160GB or bigger (probably 240 is best) SSD and just skip the HDD. I've been running on 160 with BF3+all current expansions and LotRO + all expansions plus whatever one-shot game I'm playing and only use about half of that.

Edit: Great build advice above. Do agree that if the 7970 can be had for the price of a 670 I'd go that route (wasn't an option when I purchased). Also can't say enough good things about the Carbide 500R case.
November 14, 2012 5:05:15 PM

J_E_D_70 said:
If you really only use it for gaming and surfing the net you can certainly get a 160GB or bigger (probably 240 is best) SSD and just skip the HDD. I've been running on 160 with BF3+all current expansions and LotRO + all expansions plus whatever one-shot game I'm playing and only use about half of that.

Edit: Great build advice above. Do agree that if the 7970 can be had for the price of a 670 I'd go that route (wasn't an option when I purchased). Also can't say enough good things about the Carbide 500R case.


yea i really like the 500R, easy to build in but i wish it had a bit more filters like the HAF XM
November 14, 2012 5:18:25 PM

I too was concerned about dust but it hasn't been a problem so far (about six months). Guess a lot depends on your local environmental conditions, where the case is sitting, etc.
November 14, 2012 8:17:49 PM

Okay so I just finished buying all the parts sooner than I expected

Case: COOLER MASTER HAF 932 Advanced Blue Edition $179.99

GPU: SAPPHIRE Vapor-X Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition 3GB $459.99 (and it brings 3 free games with a price value of $169.99 and I have been interested in these games before so it is worth it for me)

Mobo: MSI Z77A-G45 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS $119.99

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz $219.99

CPU cooler: COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO $31.99

Thermal compound: Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver Thermal Compound AS5-3.5G - OEM $9.99

PSU: Rosewill LIGHTNING Series LIGHTNING-1000 1000W $129.99 (same price as the 800W)

RAM: G.SKILL Ares Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 $64.99

HDD: Seagate 1tb for $49.99

SSD: Decided not to buy one, I will not regret it.

OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM $99.99

Thanks for all the advice everyone! Now to wait for them and put them together. Case Closed!
November 14, 2012 8:56:38 PM

Good deal on the 7970 since you wanted the games anyway. Congrats!
November 14, 2012 9:48:21 PM

J_E_D_70 said:
Good deal on the 7970 since you wanted the games anyway. Congrats!



Thanks!
November 14, 2012 9:53:32 PM

That comment above which I'm too lazy to quote right now about Rosewill PSUs is a great exaggeration. I don't know when the last time you checked Rosewill PSUs or any PSU for that matter but most(if not all) modern Rosewill power supplies are of great quality.

To name a few series lines, there's - Lightning, Green, Hive(albeit, cheap on amps), and especially Capstone.

@echeneis - imo, you should really try out the ssd first before coming to thst conclusion. It's a great luxury to have. If you find it still unnecessary after actually trying it, you always have the option to return it. :) 
!