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300w Graphics Card in a 460w Computer

Sup guys, I just wanted to start off by saying that Tom's Hardware has helped me many times in the past and that's why I decided to sign up, because maybe you guys can help me here. :)


Anyways I have a Dell XPS Dimension Generation 4 and I wanted to play more modern games on it, so I'm going to need a new graphics card. I've bought one in the past but this time It's a little different.

Most graphics cards I find require about 300w but in the XPS's guide the specs say that it is 460w.

My question is:

Would a graphics card that requires 300w work in a 460w computer?


Specifications:

Processor
Processor type Intel® Pentium® 4 with HT Technology
NOTE: Not all Pentium 4 processors support Hyper-Threading
technology.
Cache 512 KB, 1 MB, or 2 MB
Memory
Type 400- and 533-MHz DDR2 unbuffered SDRAM
Memory connectors four
Memory capacities 256 MB, 512 MB, or 1 GB non-ECC
Minimum memory 256 MB
Maximum memory 4 GB
NOTE: See "Addressing Memory With 4-GB Configurations" on
page 77 to verify the amount of memory available to the operating
system.
BIOS address F0000h
Computer Information
Chipset Intel 925X Express or Intel 925XE Express
DMA channels eight
Interrupt levels 24
BIOS chip (NVRAM) 4-Mb
NIC Integrated network interface capable of 10/100/1000
communication.
System clock 800- or 1066-MHz data rate (depending on your processor)
Video
Type PCI Express
116 Appendix
Expansion Bus
Bus type PCI 2.3
PCI Express x1 and x16
Bus speed PCI: 33 MHz
PCI Express:
x1 slot bidirectional speed - 500 MB/s
x16 slot bidirectional speed - 8 GB/s
PCI
connector four
connector size 120 pins
connector data width (maximum) 32 bits
PCI Express
connector one x1
connector size 36 pins
connector data width (maximum) 1 PCI Express lane
PCI Express
connector one x16
connector size 164 pins
connector data width (maximum) 16 PCI Express lanes
Drives
Externally accessible:
two 3.5-inch drive bays
two 5.25-inch drive bays
Available devices Serial ATA drive, floppy drive, memory devices, CD drive, CD-RW
drive, DVD drive, DVD-RW drive, and DVD and CD-RW combo
drive
Internally accessible:
two bays for 1-inch high hard drives
Appendix 117
Connectors
External connectors:
Serial 9-pin connector; 16550C-compatible
Parallel 25-hole connector (bidirectional)
IEEE 1394 front-panel 6-pin serial connector
Video 15-hole connector
Network adapter RJ45 connector
PS/2 (keyboard and mouse) two 6-pin mini-DIN
USB two front-panel and six back-panel USB 2.0–compliant connectors
Audio five connectors for line-in, line-out, microphone, surround, and
center/Low Frequency Effects (LFE) channel; two front-panel
connectors for headphones and microphones
System board connectors:
Primary IDE drive 40-pin connector on PCI local bus
Serial ATA four 7-pin connectors
Floppy drive 34-pin connector
Fan 5-pin connector
PCI 2.3 four 120-pin connectors
PCI Express x1 36-pin connector
PCI Express x16 164-pin connector
Telephony (TAPI) 4-pin connector
Controls and Lights
Power control push button
Power light green light — Blinking green in sleep state; solid green for power-on
state.
amber light — Blinking amber indicates a problem with an installed
device; solid amber indicates an internal power problem (see "Power
Problems" on page 46).
Hard-drive access light green
118 Appendix
Link integrity light (on integrated
network adapter)
green light — A good connection exists between a 10-Mbps network
and the computer.
orange light — A good connection exists between a 100-Mbps
network and the computer.
yellow light — A good connection exists between a 1 GB
(or 1000-Mbps) connection.
off (no light) — The computer is not detecting a physical
connection to the network.
Activity light (on integrated network
adapter)
yellow blinking light
Diagnostic lights four lights on the back panel (See "Diagnostic Lights" on page 53.)
Standby power light AUX_PWR on the system board
Case front-panel light color options: off (no light), ruby, emerald, sapphire (default), amber,
amethyst, topaz, diamond (See "Changing the Front-Panel Light
Color" on page 14.)
Power
DC power supply:
Wattage 460 W
Heat dissipation 931.2 BTU/hr
Voltage (see the safety instructions
located in the Product Information
Guide for important voltage setting
information)
fixed-voltage power supply —1 10 V at 50/60 Hz
manual selection and auto-sensing power supplies — 90 to 135 V at
50/60 Hz; 180 to 265 V at 50/60 Hz; 100 V at 50/60 Hz for Japanese
computers
Backup battery 3-V CR2032 lithium coin cell
Physical
Height 49.1 cm (19.3 inches)
Width 22.2 cm (8.7 inches)
Depth 48.8 cm (19.2 inches)
Weight 19 kg (42 lbs)
Controls and Lights (continued)
Appendix 119
Operating –15.2 to 3048 m (–50 to 10,000 ft)
Storage –15.2 to 10,668 m (–50 to 35,000 ft)
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  1. NovaXP said:
    Sup guys, I just wanted to start off by saying that Tom's Hardware has helped me many times in the past and that's why I decided to sign up, because maybe you guys can help me here. :)


    Anyways I have a Dell XPS Dimension Generation 4 and I wanted to play more modern games on it, so I'm going to need a new graphics card. I've bought one in the past but this time It's a little different.

    Most graphics cards I find require about 300w but in the XPS's guide the specs say that it is 460w.

    My question is:

    Would a graphics card that requires 300w work in a 460w computer?


    Specifications:

    Processor
    Processor type Intel® Pentium® 4 with HT Technology
    NOTE: Not all Pentium 4 processors support Hyper-Threading
    technology.
    Cache 512 KB, 1 MB, or 2 MB
    Memory
    Type 400- and 533-MHz DDR2 unbuffered SDRAM
    Memory connectors four
    Memory capacities 256 MB, 512 MB, or 1 GB non-ECC
    Minimum memory 256 MB
    Maximum memory 4 GB
    NOTE: See "Addressing Memory With 4-GB Configurations" on
    page 77 to verify the amount of memory available to the operating
    system.
    BIOS address F0000h
    Computer Information
    Chipset Intel 925X Express or Intel 925XE Express
    DMA channels eight
    Interrupt levels 24
    BIOS chip (NVRAM) 4-Mb
    NIC Integrated network interface capable of 10/100/1000
    communication.
    System clock 800- or 1066-MHz data rate (depending on your processor)
    Video
    Type PCI Express
    116 Appendix
    Expansion Bus
    Bus type PCI 2.3
    PCI Express x1 and x16
    Bus speed PCI: 33 MHz
    PCI Express:
    x1 slot bidirectional speed - 500 MB/s
    x16 slot bidirectional speed - 8 GB/s
    PCI
    connector four
    connector size 120 pins
    connector data width (maximum) 32 bits
    PCI Express
    connector one x1
    connector size 36 pins
    connector data width (maximum) 1 PCI Express lane
    PCI Express
    connector one x16
    connector size 164 pins
    connector data width (maximum) 16 PCI Express lanes
    Drives
    Externally accessible:
    two 3.5-inch drive bays
    two 5.25-inch drive bays
    Available devices Serial ATA drive, floppy drive, memory devices, CD drive, CD-RW
    drive, DVD drive, DVD-RW drive, and DVD and CD-RW combo
    drive
    Internally accessible:
    two bays for 1-inch high hard drives
    Appendix 117
    Connectors
    External connectors:
    Serial 9-pin connector; 16550C-compatible
    Parallel 25-hole connector (bidirectional)
    IEEE 1394 front-panel 6-pin serial connector
    Video 15-hole connector
    Network adapter RJ45 connector
    PS/2 (keyboard and mouse) two 6-pin mini-DIN
    USB two front-panel and six back-panel USB 2.0–compliant connectors
    Audio five connectors for line-in, line-out, microphone, surround, and
    center/Low Frequency Effects (LFE) channel; two front-panel
    connectors for headphones and microphones
    System board connectors:
    Primary IDE drive 40-pin connector on PCI local bus
    Serial ATA four 7-pin connectors
    Floppy drive 34-pin connector
    Fan 5-pin connector
    PCI 2.3 four 120-pin connectors
    PCI Express x1 36-pin connector
    PCI Express x16 164-pin connector
    Telephony (TAPI) 4-pin connector
    Controls and Lights
    Power control push button
    Power light green light — Blinking green in sleep state; solid green for power-on
    state.
    amber light — Blinking amber indicates a problem with an installed
    device; solid amber indicates an internal power problem (see "Power
    Problems" on page 46).
    Hard-drive access light green
    118 Appendix
    Link integrity light (on integrated
    network adapter)
    green light — A good connection exists between a 10-Mbps network
    and the computer.
    orange light — A good connection exists between a 100-Mbps
    network and the computer.
    yellow light — A good connection exists between a 1 GB
    (or 1000-Mbps) connection.
    off (no light) — The computer is not detecting a physical
    connection to the network.
    Activity light (on integrated network
    adapter)
    yellow blinking light
    Diagnostic lights four lights on the back panel (See "Diagnostic Lights" on page 53.)
    Standby power light AUX_PWR on the system board
    Case front-panel light color options: off (no light), ruby, emerald, sapphire (default), amber,
    amethyst, topaz, diamond (See "Changing the Front-Panel Light
    Color" on page 14.)
    Power
    DC power supply:
    Wattage 460 W
    Heat dissipation 931.2 BTU/hr
    Voltage (see the safety instructions
    located in the Product Information
    Guide for important voltage setting
    information)
    fixed-voltage power supply —1 10 V at 50/60 Hz
    manual selection and auto-sensing power supplies — 90 to 135 V at
    50/60 Hz; 180 to 265 V at 50/60 Hz; 100 V at 50/60 Hz for Japanese
    computers
    Backup battery 3-V CR2032 lithium coin cell
    Physical
    Height 49.1 cm (19.3 inches)
    Width 22.2 cm (8.7 inches)
    Depth 48.8 cm (19.2 inches)
    Weight 19 kg (42 lbs)
    Controls and Lights (continued)
    Appendix 119
    Operating –15.2 to 3048 m (–50 to 10,000 ft)
    Storage –15.2 to 10,668 m (–50 to 35,000 ft)


    It will work fine, but that Pentium 4 will DRAG across every game, making you play on low graphics setting.
  2. Most video card don't require or use 300W, thats probably the total system power. My overclocked 560 pulls around 200W and thats pretty much for a gpu.

    What card are you looking at ?
  3. Modern games + Pentium 4 = recipe for disaster. Buying a new GPU will not help you much, to be honest.

    How much are you willing to invest in this system?
  4. http://www.microcenter.com/product/342820/01G-P3-1373-AR_GeForce_GTX_460_SuperClocked_1024MB_GDDR5_Video_Card

    I found this, do you think it would help?


    And I'm only willing to spend about $100 so I can play APB Reloaded
  5. Wow... didn't think you could still find a 460 anywhere. Great card, if a little behind in terms of features now.

    It needs a 450W supply so you are probably OK n that respect, but I would personally go for a newer card with similar performance and less power draw.

    The rest of your system is still a major bottleneck though.
  6. So could I use a graphics card that requires 300w? Because then I can find a Cheeper one and save money for a new prossesor/CPU.
    Also I don't need to play really graphically intense games like bf3 or cod I just need it to play stuff like Free to Play MMOs (even at min. Settings)
  7. What graphics card requires 300w???????????????????
  8. The new one from NVidia with a toaster build in.
  9. You'll definitely want to be saving for a new system (mobo, cpu, ram, psu, etc). MMOs are typically cpu-intensive games. Adding a better GPU should help (assuming you are using integrated graphics), but that Pentium 4 platform is really holding everything back. Depending on how long it will be until you get a new system, you can either 1) buy a decent GPU and carry it over into your new system or 2) buy an inexpensive GPU and grit it out until you can afford a new system. I lean toward #2 so as not to create a total imbalance, maybe a $65 radeon 6670.

    As far as your PSU requirements go: it's pretty simple. You have a 460w PSU. Card manufacturers state the minimum required PSU requirements. Follow those requirements (they are very conservative) and you should be fine. So if the manufacturer says anything less than "450w minimum PSU" then you are fine.

    Hope that helps. Also check out this article if you haven't already: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-card-review,3107.html
  10. You are beating a dead horse. I think you already know that but want someone to find a bail out for you. Not going to happen.
  11. NovaXP said:
    And I'm only willing to spend about $100 so I can play APB Reloaded

    Sorry I missed this post the first time through (too many long posts).

    These are the minimum requirements for APB Reloaded: http://www.apbrwiki.com/wiki/System_Requirements

    Note that it says minimum Core 2 Duo? Your P4 won't run that game so a GPU upgrade won't help. You'll find that most games today require a Core 2 Duo or higher.
  12. I can't even believe someone is still running a P4. I mean I've thrown out dozens of those.

    I'm still waiting to hear about this 300w graphics card.....with a p4.
  13. larkspur said:
    Sorry I missed this post the first time through (too many long posts).

    These are the minimum requirements for APB Reloaded: http://www.apbrwiki.com/wiki/System_Requirements

    Note that it says minimum Core 2 Duo? Your P4 won't run that game so a GPU upgrade won't help. You'll find that most games today require a Core 2 Duo or higher.



    My XPS is currently using a Nvidia GeForce 6800

    Believe it or not I've got an old Vostro 200 Slim desktop with an Intel Dual Core possessor, is there some sort of weird possibility that I could stack/combine those computers? (Or at the least take out the Dual Core from the Vostro and put it in my XPS)
  14. I'm still waiting for you to tell us about this mystery card your looking at that requires 300w...................

    No you cannot put the processor in your XPS.
  15. Best answer
    NovaXP said:
    So could I use a graphics card that requires 300w? Because then I can find a Cheeper one and save money for a new prossesor/CPU.
    Also I don't need to play really graphically intense games like bf3 or cod I just need it to play stuff like Free to Play MMOs (even at min. Settings)


    You misunderstand how graphics card power requirements are indicated.

    If the specification says for example: "400W PSU required", that is an indication of the minimum total power supply of your whole system to ensure that the card will have sufficient power to work. It doesn't mean that the card draws 400W.

    Your system has a 460W supply, which means in theory you could could install any card that requires a 460W system supply or less.

    Does this make sense?
  16. Best answer selected by NovaXP.
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