GTX 660 Ti

[pseghers]

Hello, i want to upgrade my graphics card to the new GTX 660 Ti. My question is that i have a pci 1.0 x 16 slot, and the GtX 660Ti needs a pci 3.0 slot. can i put the gtx 660Ti in my pci 1.0 slot in my motherboard?

 

[COLGeek]

Yes, the 660Ti is backward compatible with the PCIe V1.0 slot. Make sure your power supply meets the needs of the new video card as well.

 

[COLGeek]

Also, keep in mind that your older system will likely bottleneck your intended new video card.

 

[mocchan]

^+1

If you're considering the GTX660 Ti, why not consider the Radeon HD7950? The crippled memory bit interface on the 660 Ti will most likely cripple it in the future and the HD7950 is a great value considering it's the same price at the moment.

HD7950 is also proven to be a stellar overclocker which would yield even more performance.

 

[ram1009]

^+1

If you're considering the GTX660 Ti, why not consider the Radeon HD7950? The crippled memory bit interface on the 660 Ti will most likely cripple it in the future and the HD7950 is a great value considering it's the same price at the moment.

HD7950 is also proven to be a stellar overclocker which would yield even more performance.

My suggestion is to stick with an Nvidia card as AMD/ATI has always had buggy drivers no matter how good their hardware is.

 

[wake4x4ptball]

haha that what they said same thing as between NVIDIA and ATI

 

[COLGeek]

My suggestion is to stick with an Nvidia card as AMD/ATI has always had buggy drivers no matter how good their hardware is.

This is one of the pieces of info that may or may not be factual, but rather opinion based. Both Nvidia and AMD/ATI have produced both good and bad driver releases. There is more of a preference issue, for the most part.

 

[JamesSneed]

The GTX 660 ti is not only compatible with PCIe 1.1 but a PCIe 1.1 x16 slot will not even bottleneck a GTX 680 more than 6%. It will work fine.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Intel/Ivy_Bridge_PCI-Express_Scaling/23.html

 

[Mousemonkey]

This is one of the pieces of info that may or may not be factual, but rather opinion based. Both Nvidia and AMD/ATI have produced both good and bad driver releases. There is more of a preference issue, for the most part.

I think it got a bit more factual when AMD announced that they were changing their driver release schedule as their monthly schedule wasn't really working for them as they didn't have enough time to work out bug and kinks to the point where they sometime released the exact same driver but with a different release number.

 

[mocchan]

This is one of the pieces of info that may or may not be factual, but rather opinion based. Both Nvidia and AMD/ATI have produced both good and bad driver releases. There is more of a preference issue, for the most part.

+1

At the moment for me, I personally find the HD7950 to be a better value than a GTX660 Ti, however, if OP prefers to stick with Nvidia, I wouldn't mind at all as the 660 Ti is still a stellar card.

 

[COLGeek]

I think it got a bit more factual when AMD announced that they were changing their driver release schedule as their monthly schedule wasn't really working for them as they didn't have enough time to work out bug and kinks to the point where they sometime released the exact same driver but with a different release number.

That is one interpretation.....not sure I would read it that way. Regardless, this is still largely a matter of preference.

 

[COLGeek]

+1

At the moment for me, I personally find the HD7950 to be a better value than a GTX660 Ti, however, if OP prefers to stick with Nvidia, I wouldn't mind at all as the 660 Ti is still a stellar card.

Agreed. Not really a bad answer here comparing/selecting the 660Ti or the HD7950. Both are solid choices.

 

[Mousemonkey]

That is one interpretation.....not sure I would read it that way. Regardless, this is still largely a matter of preference.

It's not just my interpretation.

To some this may seem like AMD is putting less effort into releases, but it is likely the other way around. AMD is now able to concentrate on bug-fixes and performance gains and only release a driver when AMD is confident that the driver will work well. This will hopefully avoid situations where bugs are not able to be fixed in time for a monthly release (like that of the display not waking from sleep in 12.4) or when a release is very close to the previous one simply because of the schedule.

 

[COLGeek]

It's not just my interpretation.

To some this may seem like AMD is putting less effort into releases, but it is likely the other way around. AMD is now able to concentrate on bug-fixes and performance gains and only release a driver when AMD is confident that the driver will work well. This will hopefully avoid situations where bugs are not able to be fixed in time for a monthly release (like that of the display not waking from sleep in 12.4) or when a release is very close to the previous one simply because of the schedule.

Just because they change their release cycle/model is not an acknowledgement of "buggy drivers". I understand your position, but your opinion is still largely subjective. Not a criticism in any way, just trying to stick to facts vice opinions.

 

[Mousemonkey]

Just because they change their release cycle/model is not an acknowledgement of "buggy drivers". I understand your position, but your opinion is still largely subjective. Not a criticism in any way, just trying to stick to facts vice opinions.

Having dealt with lots of PR companies over the years I know how to read between the lines but if you and others choose to go through life with blinkers on then so be it.

 

[COLGeek]

Having dealt with lots of PR companies over the years I know how to read between the lines but if you and others choose to go through life with blinkers on then so be it.

I think we should "agree to disagree" and move on. What say you, brudda?

 

[Mousemonkey]

I think we should "agree to disagree" and move on. What say you, brudda?

You can disagree all you like, it doesn't change the fact that if their drivers were perfect every month then why would they change to a different system?

 

[COLGeek]

You can disagree all you like, it doesn't change the fact that if their drivers were perfect every month then why would they change to a different system?

OK, so using that logic, then Nvidia would never provide any interim releases (with the exception of adding new products) because their drivers would be "perfect" to begin with. That, my friend, is simply not true.

I apologize to the OP that we are going down this trail. Mea culpa.

Nothing like when 2 alpha-geeks don't see eye to eye on a topic, but insightful nonetheless.

 

[Mousemonkey]

OK, so using that logic, then Nvidia would never provide any interim releases (with the exception of adding new products) because their drivers would be "perfect" to begin with. That, my friend, is simply not true.

I apologize to the OP that we are going down this trail. Mea culpa.

Nothing like when 2 alpha-geeks don't see eye to eye on a topic, but insightful nonetheless.

Nvidia have never tried to stick to a monthly release schedule and that's where the problem with AMD/Ati's driver always laid, they were always working to a time limit what is about that that's a problem for you to get your head around?

 

[COLGeek]

Nvidia have never tried to stick to a monthly release schedule and that's where the problem with AMD/Ati's driver always laid, they were always working to a time limit what is about that that's a problem for you to get your head around?

I never said that their previous monthly model was a good one to follow. The issue is looking at current drivers and how they are supported now. There is little significant "quality" difference in the driver support provided by Nvidia and AMD/ATI today.

If you want to compare older driver releases, I am sure we can dig up volumes of forum postings on both sides of the argument that was solved by installing a more current (better) driver.

To make you feel better, try this. You win. Its all good by me. Cool?

 

[Mousemonkey]

I never said that their previous monthly model was a good one to follow. The issue is looking at current drivers and how they are supported now. There is little significant "quality" difference in the driver support provided by Nvidia and AMD/ATI today.

If you want to compare older driver releases, I am sure we can dig up volumes of forum postings on both sides of the argument that was solved by installing a more current (better) driver.

To make you feel better, try this. You win. Its all good by me. Cool?

Being a bit of a history buff I have always felt that the past is what the present and future are built on but if you want to see things differently then that's fine by me so long as you don't encourage other people to ignore the past as though it never happened.

 

[pseghers]

Thank you everyone.....whats is bottle necking?

 

[Mousemonkey]

Thank you everyone.....whats is bottle necking?

It is when one part is faster than another to the point it causes the system to bog down enough to diminish performance.

 

[pseghers]

It won't mess up my new graphics card will it? Im slowly upgrading my whole rig. First im getting my gtx 660 Ti & a bigger power supply. Then im gonna save for a new motherboard, ram, and an intel I7

 

[COLGeek]

No, the older components will not harm the new ones.