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November 15, 2012 4:24:59 PM

It's that time again! Time to update the Tom's Hardware BestConfigs! Once again, we are opening the field to user recommendations to get the best consensus for the absolute best of the best in each category. Post the best configuration you can put together for the following build category and our editorial team will pick 5 of the best to be put up to a public vote right here in the Systems forum. The top-ranking build will go on to become one of Tom's Hardware BestConfigs and you'll get the credit for having put together a brilliant build with a special credit in the feature article.

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High-End AMD Gaming PC

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November 15, 2012 6:14:08 PM

G-Unit's "Piledrive This!!" Build:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($179.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD7 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($164.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Kingston 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($40.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: OCZ Vertex 4 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($224.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition 3GB Video Card (CrossFire) ($444.98 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition 3GB Video Card (CrossFire) ($444.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Antec Eleven Hundred ATX Full Tower Case ($109.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: PC Power & Cooling Silencer Mk II 950W 80 PLUS Silver Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($143.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1972.85
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-11-15 15:13 EST-0500)
November 15, 2012 6:17:22 PM
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November 15, 2012 8:38:34 PM

Thomas's Custom Thermal Cooled Setup

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CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($199.98 @ NCIX US)
Radiator: XSPC AX360 Triple Fan Radiator ($99.95) http://www.xoxide.com/xspc-ax360triplefanradiator-black...
Reservoir: XSPC UV Blue Dual 5.25” bay Reservoir ($49.99) http://www.xoxide.com/uv-blue-dual-bayres.html
Pump: Swiftech MCP35X Water Pump ($93.95) http://www.xoxide.com/swiftech-mcp35x-pump.html
CPU Block: XSPC RayStorm CPU/APU Water Block ($59.95) http://www.xoxide.com/xspc-raystorm-cpuapuwaterblock-am...
VGA Block: EK GeForce 670 GTX DCII VGA Liquid Cooling Block ($112.99) http://www.frozencpu.com/products/16913/ex-blc-1206/EK_...
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD7 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($164.98 @ NCIX US)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($63.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital VelociRaptor 1TB 3.5" 10000RPM Internal Hard Drive ($149.99 @ Microcenter)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($149.00 @ B&H)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($437.86 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair Obsidian Series 800D ATX Full Tower Case ($244.96 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: OCZ Z Series Gold 850W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($99.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($17.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $1945.56
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
November 15, 2012 10:34:59 PM

Shinobi's somewhat budgeted Piledriver build

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($179.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Xigmatek Dark Knight-S1283V 89.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Fatal1ty 990FX Professional ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($179.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: HIS Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card (CrossFire) ($376.98 @ Newegg)
Video Card: HIS Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card (CrossFire) ($376.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master SGC-2100-KWN1 ATX Mid Tower Case ($109.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Cooler Master Silent Pro Hybrid 850W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1743.86
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
November 16, 2012 12:36:42 AM

Serekos Ready to OC machine.

CPU: AMD FX 8350 4GHz - 4.2GHz Turbo $219.99 @Newegg.com
Motherboard: ASRock Fatal1ty 990FX Professional $159.99 @Newegg.com
RAM: G.Skill Sniper 8GB (2*4GB) 1866MHz $49.99 @Newegg.com
Graphics Card: Sapphire Radeon HD7970 3GB X2 $813.94 @Newegg.com
Solid State Drive: Mushkin Enhanced Chronos 240GB Sata III $164.99 @Newegg.com
Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 7200RPM $149.99 @Newegg.com
Case: NZXT Phantom 410 Orange/Black $109.98 @Newegg.com
Power Supply: Corsair Enthusiast TX850M - 850W 80 PLUS Bronze $139.99 @Newegg.com
Cooling: Corsair Hydro H80 $95.91 @Newegg.com
Blu-Ray burner: LG Black BD-RW $74.98 @Newegg.com

Total Price: $1979.75
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
November 16, 2012 1:57:23 AM
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November 16, 2012 2:02:28 PM

Brandon 402's "Red Hot" High End AMD Gaming PC

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($199.98 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Antec KUHLER H2O 920 110.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($94.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Fatal1ty 990FX Professional ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($92.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 830 Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($189.00 @ B&H)
Storage: Western Digital VelociRaptor 1TB 3.5" 10000RPM Internal Hard Drive ($149.99 @ Microcenter)
Video Card: Asus Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card (CrossFire) ($366.61 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Asus Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card (CrossFire) ($366.61 @ NCIX US)
Case: NZXT Phantom 410 (Red) ATX Mid Tower Case ($109.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: OCZ Fatal1ty 1000W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($184.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Asus BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer ($54.73 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1969.86
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-11-16 11:00 EST-0500)

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/nWgv
November 16, 2012 2:06:45 PM

Zared619's "Raptor"

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CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($219.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($80.76 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus Sabertooth 990FX ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($189.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($37.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Mushkin Callisto Deluxe 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($76.71 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition 3GB Video Card (CrossFire) ($429.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition 3GB Video Card (CrossFire) ($429.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Antec Twelve Hundred V3 ATX Full Tower Case ($159.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 1050W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($184.82 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1988.21
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-11-16 11:11 EST-0500)

Edit: Power Supply change.
November 17, 2012 11:17:41 PM
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November 19, 2012 6:13:34 AM
November 19, 2012 1:09:23 PM

FX 8-CORE 8150 Soket AM3+ 3.6GHz 16MB CACHE
Crosshair IV Extreme AMD 890FX/SB850
XFX HD7850 ÇIFT FAN GDDR5 2GB 256BIT
16GB (2x8GB) Vengeance DDR3 1600MHz CL9
OCZ Vertex 4/Corsair Force GT 120GB
THERMALTAKE COMMANDER 700W PENCERELI
23" SAMSUNG GENIS EKRAN LED MONITÖR
COOLER MASTER CPU FAN 95 TL
SEAGATE 3,5" 2TB 64MB CACHE 7200RPM HARDDISK

ı think that s enough almost 1300$
November 19, 2012 1:10:58 PM

oo sory ı forgot hd 7850 cf ıt can be cf but ı forgot to write
November 28, 2012 1:46:44 AM
November 29, 2012 1:02:17 PM

Hi there, I would like to say that I am in South Africa and we are not so lucky with our prices here. Anything and everything costs about 1.5 times as much as it costs on Newegg or Amazon - that is if you are working at a IT company and get employee discount. Otherwise prices can go up to 2.7 times as much as the Newegg prices.

I put this together keeping in mind what we can get here in SA.

Ludwig's Gamer
Motherboard and Processor: AMD FX-8350 Vishera 4.0GHz bundled with: 1x ASUS SABERTOOTH 990FX R2.0 AM3+ AMD 990FX SATA $386.98
RAM: CORSAIR Vengeance 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 $67.99
Graphics Card: SAPPHIRE 100351SR Radeon HD 7970 3GB 384-bit x3 $1,139.97
Hard Drive: SAMSUNG 840 Pro Series MZ-7PD128BW 2.5" 128GB $149.99
Power Supply and Case: CORSAIR Professional Series Gold AX850 bundled with: 1x Corsair Vengeance Series C70 Arctic White Steel $279.98 with Mail in Rebate
DVD Burner: ASUS DVD Burner 24X DVD+R $24.99

Total: 2049.9 (excluding Mai in Rebates - should take the $50 off)

I hope this is okay.
November 29, 2012 6:20:47 PM
December 3, 2012 2:10:54 AM

dork_police said:
Hi there, I would like to say that I am in South Africa and we are not so lucky with our prices here. Anything and everything costs about 1.5 times as much as it costs on Newegg or Amazon - that is if you are working at a IT company and get employee discount. Otherwise prices can go up to 2.7 times as much as the Newegg prices.

I put this together keeping in mind what we can get here in SA.

Ludwig's Gamer
Motherboard and Processor: AMD FX-8350 Vishera 4.0GHz bundled with: 1x ASUS SABERTOOTH 990FX R2.0 AM3+ AMD 990FX SATA $386.98
RAM: CORSAIR Vengeance 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 $67.99
Graphics Card: SAPPHIRE 100351SR Radeon HD 7970 3GB 384-bit x3 $1,139.97
Hard Drive: SAMSUNG 840 Pro Series MZ-7PD128BW 2.5" 128GB $149.99
Power Supply and Case: CORSAIR Professional Series Gold AX850 bundled with: 1x Corsair Vengeance Series C70 Arctic White Steel $279.98 with Mail in Rebate
DVD Burner: ASUS DVD Burner 24X DVD+R $24.99

Total: 2049.9 (excluding Mai in Rebates - should take the $50 off)

I hope this is okay.


It'd be better if you changed the SSD from an 840 Pro 128GB to an 830 or 840 128GB and threw in at least a 500GB hard drive. 128GB of storage is generally not enough for a gaming build.

Also, at least according to Tom's rules, I think that Mail-in Rebates aren't counted in total pricing, but you could do minor tweaking if necessary to fix that.

Overall though, except for the cripplingly insufficient storage capacity, it's a good build for gaming, although I don't think that I'd consider having three Radeon 7970s without special cooling, a better case, and a better PSU.
December 3, 2012 4:01:36 AM

g-unit1111 said:
G-Unit's "Piledrive This!!" Build:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($179.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD7 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($164.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Kingston 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($40.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: OCZ Vertex 4 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($224.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition 3GB Video Card (CrossFire) ($444.98 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition 3GB Video Card (CrossFire) ($444.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Antec Eleven Hundred ATX Full Tower Case ($109.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: PC Power & Cooling Silencer Mk II 950W 80 PLUS Silver Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($143.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1972.85
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-11-15 15:13 EST-0500)

I so wanted to vote for you build.. but.. Sabertooth or BUST. :kaola: 
December 3, 2012 4:34:44 PM

Quote:
FX 8-CORE 8150 Soket AM3+ 3.6GHz 16MB CACHE
Crosshair IV Extreme AMD 890FX/SB850
XFX HD7850 ÇIFT FAN GDDR5 2GB 256BIT
16GB (2x8GB) Vengeance DDR3 1600MHz CL9
OCZ Vertex 4/Corsair Force GT 120GB
THERMALTAKE COMMANDER 700W PENCERELI
23" SAMSUNG GENIS EKRAN LED MONITÖR
COOLER MASTER CPU FAN 95 TL
SEAGATE 3,5" 2TB 64MB CACHE 7200RPM HARDDISK


If you had read the rules you don't need to include monitor, keyboard, mouse, or OS. So you might want to rethink that.

nekulturny said:
I so wanted to vote for you build.. but.. Sabertooth or BUST. :kaola: 


How about this one:

G-Unit's "Piledrive THIS!" Rev 2.0

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($80.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus Crosshair V Formula-Z ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($229.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($88.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: OCZ Vertex 4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition 3GB Video Card (CrossFire) ($454.98 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition 3GB Video Card (CrossFire) ($454.98 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Phantom 410 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($109.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: PC Power & Cooling Silencer Mk II 950W 80 PLUS Silver Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($22.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $1992.84
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-12-03 13:36 EST-0500)
December 4, 2012 12:47:19 AM

I liked the other one more. 256GB SSD can be beneficial for storage-intensive games and 16GB of RAM rarely makes a difference over 8GB. Meh, can't please everyone ;) 
December 4, 2012 2:23:28 AM

blazorthon said:
I liked the other one more. 256GB SSD can be beneficial for storage-intensive games and 16GB of RAM rarely makes a difference over 8GB. Meh, can't please everyone ;) 


I like what Mitch Hedburg said - "You can't please everyone all the time and last night all those people were at my show." :lol: 

How about this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($80.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus SABERTOOTH 990FX R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($189.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($37.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($88.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: OCZ Vertex 4 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($235.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition 3GB Video Card (CrossFire) ($454.98 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition 3GB Video Card (CrossFire) ($454.98 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Phantom 410 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($109.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: PC Power & Cooling Silencer Mk II 950W 80 PLUS Silver Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($22.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $2006.84
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-12-03 23:22 EST-0500)
December 4, 2012 2:34:27 AM

Yeah, I like that one :D  Any differences left between it and what I'd do are just personal preference choices such as the case, two 7970 GHz Editions versus two 7950s with liquid cooling, and PSU. +1

Also, with shipping not counted, it's well under $2000. I just thought that I'd mention that since including shipping in your total price puts it a little over budget, but the budget isn't supposed to count shipping.
December 5, 2012 8:59:04 PM



Why are so many people putting Samsung 840 Pro SSDs in their builds? It's no better than even Crucial M4 as far as performance in a gaming rig goes and the near $100 in savings by going with a cheaper model of the same capacity could have gone to a higher wattage/amperage PSU and better graphics, two improvements that can make a difference.
December 7, 2012 3:00:04 AM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($189.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H80 92.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($83.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock 990FX Extreme4 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($144.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($39.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Crucial M4 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($184.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition 3GB Video Card (CrossFire) ($449.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition 3GB Video Card (CrossFire) ($449.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Sentey GS-6050 II Halcon (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($82.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic Platinum 1000W 80 PLUS Platinum Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($219.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus BW-12B1ST/BLK/G/AS Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1996.88
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-12-06 23:59 EST-0500)
December 7, 2012 10:46:56 AM

blazorthon said:
It'd be better if you changed the SSD from an 840 Pro 128GB to an 830 or 840 128GB and threw in at least a 500GB hard drive. 128GB of storage is generally not enough for a gaming build.

Also, at least according to Tom's rules, I think that Mail-in Rebates aren't counted in total pricing, but you could do minor tweaking if necessary to fix that.

Overall though, except for the cripplingly insufficient storage capacity, it's a good build for gaming, although I don't think that I'd consider having three Radeon 7970s without special cooling, a better case, and a better PSU.



Hi, thanks for the advice - but I was really torn if I should include an SSD or not (seeing as the waiting period in SA is 3-4 weeks, for an SSD).

And I decided to put in the best rated SSD, seeing as I would have to wait - why not wait for the best.

But thanks for the advice, I went with what I thought was best decision.
December 7, 2012 4:48:37 PM

blazorthon said:
Why are so many people putting Samsung 840 Pro SSDs in their builds? It's no better than even Crucial M4 as far as performance in a gaming rig goes and the near $100 in savings by going with a cheaper model of the same capacity could have gone to a higher wattage/amperage PSU and better graphics, two improvements that can make a difference.


You are going to have to help me understand why a "high end" ($2000) build would be better off with an SSD with write speeds under 200MB/s. The Crucial M4 may come in slightly above that, but the Samsung 840 (non Pro) you keep recommending is way too slow on the writes coming in at 130MB/s for the 120GB and 250MB/s on the 250GB (that being rated speed not the lower real world speeds). Sure... it may not matter when it comes to gaming frame rates, but IMHO it is a poor match for a "high end" machine.

You are also going to have to help with why that rig needs more than the Seasonic 760w PSU. Even with five year capacitor aging it is plenty of power. You don't feel that 63A on a single 12v rail is sufficient?

First, I don't feel that a pair of HD 7950 GPUs are at all weak so I stick by recommending them even though you could fit "larger" GPUs in the build. Maybe if you were to drop to more latent memory, a "slower" SSD, cheaper CPU cooler, and 2TB hard drive you could swing HD 7970s or GTX 670s. However, you will need to push a high resolution at high detail to touch the HD 7950s yet alone anything "bigger". The real world benefits of say... 80FPS instead of 70FPS isn't enough for me to go away from what I consider a balanced machine. To each their own.
December 7, 2012 6:13:48 PM

Kamen_BG's "Pro PC"

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($169.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 612 PWM 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($44.24 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($124.62 @ NCIX US)
Memory: Patriot Intel Extreme Master, Limited Ed 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($31.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($164.99 @ Adorama)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card (CrossFire) ($366.97 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card (CrossFire) ($366.97 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card (CrossFire) ($366.97 @ Newegg)
Case: Antec Three Hundred Two ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: FSP Group 1200W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($198.89 @ Outlet PC)
Optical Drive: Sony AD-7280S-0B DVD/CD Writer ($18.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1974.61
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-12-07 15:12 EST-0500)
December 10, 2012 1:00:02 AM

sadams04 said:
You are going to have to help me understand why a "high end" ($2000) build would be better off with an SSD with write speeds under 200MB/s. The Crucial M4 may come in slightly above that, but the Samsung 840 (non Pro) you keep recommending is way too slow on the writes coming in at 130MB/s for the 120GB and 250MB/s on the 250GB (that being rated speed not the lower real world speeds). Sure... it may not matter when it comes to gaming frame rates, but IMHO it is a poor match for a "high end" machine.

You are also going to have to help with why that rig needs more than the Seasonic 760w PSU. Even with five year capacitor aging it is plenty of power. You don't feel that 63A on a single 12v rail is sufficient?

First, I don't feel that a pair of HD 7950 GPUs are at all weak so I stick by recommending them even though you could fit "larger" GPUs in the build. Maybe if you were to drop to more latent memory, a "slower" SSD, cheaper CPU cooler, and 2TB hard drive you could swing HD 7970s or GTX 670s. However, you will need to push a high resolution at high detail to touch the HD 7950s yet alone anything "bigger". The real world benefits of say... 80FPS instead of 70FPS isn't enough for me to go away from what I consider a balanced machine. To each their own.


Vertex 4, Plextor M5S/M5P, Samsung 830, and much more are still better choices if you want better write speeds than the lower end drives in a 256GB capacity. It's not even just the FPS, 840 Pro won't win in almost all real-world situations even outside of gaming by much if at all compared to most other higher end SSDs, but is still much more expensive. There may be a few times when its on sale for similar pricing to the much cheaper per GB but still great drives and it would then probably be the better option, but that has yet to be true, at least from what I've seen.

My point with the SSDs is simply that there are very good and cheaper alternatives to Samsung 840 Pro even for high-end machines. Realistically, there's hardly any difference in write and read performance for almost all applications between most modern SSDS. Going to further detail, most of the very high end SSDs are hardly any better than most of the upper mid-ranged and lower high-end SSDs even in very storage performance sensitive workloads. The sake of being "high end" is not worth spending more money on frivolous components when that money can be spent in other places where it will matter more.

That CPU and two 7950s, all overclocked significantly, can suck a lot of power. For even numbers, lets go with say ~200W each in gaming load, all +12V. Throw in another few dozen +12V watts for the rest of the system and a little +3.3V/+5V. On the +12V alone, you will probably end up with fifty to seventy amps of +12V being used. A more powerful PSU s probably not absolutely necessary, but five years of capacitor aging most certainly may be problematic and efficiency is unlikely to be great. If this was an Intel build with an i5-3570K, then that PSU may have been more appropriate.

I never said that two 7950s are weak (heck, there are two 7950s in my own build). I simply said that you could get better as in better models or even simply better after-market cooling. I don't see how this would make it a less balanced build. You'd simply be putting emphasis on what components make a difference. Even a twenty percent difference can be noticeable. For example, many people can tell the difference between around 50FPS and 60FPS quite clearly and that's merely a twenty percent gain from 50.

Simply changing the SSD would allow enough budget to get a higher capacity PSU and maybe also somewhat better graphics and CPU cooling. Even a few dollars can make a difference if put in the best place well enough and pricing on better components is just right.
December 10, 2012 2:03:14 AM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($189.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Antec KUHLER H2O 920 110.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD7 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($164.98 @ NCIX US)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($37.98 @ Outlet PC)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($41.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Corsair Force Series GT 180GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($179.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Corsair Force Series 3 60GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 6970 2GB Video Card (CrossFire) ($356.67 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 6970 2GB Video Card (CrossFire) ($356.67 @ NCIX US)
Case: Thermaltake VN300M1W2N ATX Full Tower Case ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Professional 1050W 80 PLUS Silver Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($189.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG BH14NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1978.21
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-12-09 23:02 EST-0500)
December 18, 2012 2:24:22 AM

CPU: AMD FX-8350 Eight-Core 4GHz Socket AM3+ 125W Black Edition (AU$219 @ Umart)
CPU Cooler: Zalman CNPS9900MAX-B CPU Cooler with Green LED (AU$85 @ Umart)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3 4x DDR3 GLan SATA3 RAID USB3 1394 ATX (AU$175 @ Umart)
Memory: Corsair 16GB (4 X4GB) CMX4GX3M1A1600C9 PC-12800 (AU$120 @ Umart)
Storage: Samsung 128GB SSD 840BW Pro SATA3 2.5 (AU$155 @ Umart)
Video Card: Sapphire ATI HD7970 3GB GDDR5 2MDP/HDMI (AU$600 @ Umart)
Case: Huntkey H506 Deluxe ATX&MATX Case (AU$35 @ Umart)
Power Supply: Silverstone 1200W 80Plus Gold 135mm silent fan (AU$249 @ Umart)
Optical Drive: LGE CH12LS28 12XBD/16DVDBlack Blue Ray HD Combo (AU$ 85 @ Umart)

Total: AU$1723



Harshen
December 18, 2012 2:32:03 AM

Processor: AMD FX8350 @4.0GHz ($209.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus Crosshair V Formula-Z ($229.99 @ Newegg)
RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws X 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3 1866 ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Graphics Card: Sapphire HD7970 3GB ($379.99 @ Newegg)
Solid State: Crucial M4 512GB ($334.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair Carbide 400R ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair CX750 ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Cooling: Cooler Master 212 Evo ($29.99 @ Newegg)
DVD Burner: LG 24X DVD writer $16.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1466.91
December 18, 2012 6:31:40 PM

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/t6y5
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/t6y5/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/t6y5/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Zalman CNPS9900MAX-B CPU Cooler ($61.23 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD7 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($164.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Mushkin Redline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Green 1TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 830 Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($112.98 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($374.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($374.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Cooler Master HAF X ATX Full Tower Case ($169.98 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic X Series 1050W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($211.82 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer ($56.23 @ Amazon)
Total: $1857.18
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-12-18 15:30 EST-0500)
January 15, 2013 5:15:26 PM

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January 30, 2013 10:14:41 AM

NZXT-EVGA-Classified

1. Processor: Vishera FX-8350 @ 199.99
2. Motherboard: ASUS Crosshair V Formula-Z @ 229.99
3. RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws X 16GB (4x4) PC31866 @ 94.99
4. Graphics Card: EVGA GTX680 Classified @ 599.99
5. Hard Drive-MS: WD-Red 2TB @ 124.99
6. Hard Drive-OS/PO:OCZ Agility 3 120GB SSD @ 94.99
7. Case: NZXT Switch 810 @ 189.99
8. Power Supply: Corsair 860w FM @ 229.99
9. Cooling: NZXT Kraken X60 @ 136.99
10. DVD Burner: LITE-ON OEM BR-B-3d @ 69.99

Grand Total 1,951.90 USD.
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