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September 20, 2012 6:18:38 AM

Hey guys
i am new to this forum, so pardon me if any mistake in my english

Right now i am on super cheap pc
Intel Core2Quad Q8400 @ 2.66 GHZ
Nvidia 9400GT
2GB Ram
Cheap iball 250w psu
cheap gigabyte mobo

I am looking for a upgrade and i am planning to start with graphics card
BTW my 9400GT has served me well it a super-cheapo card but allows me to
play every new game at medium settings with low resolution ofc.
I play counter strike professionally ...now i am planning to go for
counter strike global offensive...so knowing the fact that my 9400GT wont be
able to max out CS:GO i had 2 options in my mind

1] GTX 285 1GB (INR 9000 , $160)
2] GTX 550ti 1GB (INR 8000 , $142)

I know that Old mid range card > New low end card in this case
285 > 550ti

285 Is dirt cheap these days..but i also wanted 3d vision surround gaming with triple monitor setups
DX11 is least of my concerns
i am willing to do sli but it will require me
1] A new sli mobo
2] Costly psu if i go for 285
3] DDR 3 Rams

Will SINGLE 550ti give me enough FPS to play in 3d...i know 3d chops FPS to half...and will 2x 550ti give me enough FPS to play in 3d vision surround
or should i get the 285

NO, i cant afford a 480 nor 560ti and i dont wanna shift to AMD cards

PS: I am also gonna get 120HZ monitor..but until i get its here i will use
3d vision DISCOVER ..which doesnt use 120HZ monitor
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September 20, 2012 8:28:55 AM

imho, I wouldn't even consider going surround with the components you've listed. Surround/Eyefinity places a huge demand on your gpu. Also, a single gtx285 is not capable of runing 3 screens. Until nvidia released the 6xx there wasn't a single nvidia gpu capable of running 3 screens.
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September 20, 2012 1:00:58 PM

I said i am willing to do sli
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September 20, 2012 1:51:12 PM

_deadshot said:
I said i am willing to do sli

I realise that. But surround/eyefinity is simply not something that can successfully be done on the cheap and give acceptable framerates (at least not yet anyway). But even in sli those cards are going to be pretty weak for a surround set up, especially if you want 3d as well. I'm running a pair of HD5870's (nvidia equivalent is the gtx560ti) and they struggle with a number of games and not in 3d either.
But in answer to this question " will 2x 550ti give me enough FPS to play in 3d vision surround" I seriously doubt it, I also doubt if 2x gtx285's will as well. But it depends on what you consider "enough FPS" to be.
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September 20, 2012 2:21:44 PM

Hi Deadshot. You need to prioritize what you want and state your budget. Ultimately the entire system needs to change if you want to game in 3D or surround or 3D surround. How much can you spend now and how long until you have the money for the entire new system?

A little black duck is right. Essentially, all of the things you mentioned that you want to do with your system require a high-end system. And you're basically starting from scratch. So if you want to do those, you'll need to build a new and costly system. Since you probably don't have all the money right now, my advice is to start saving. If it's going to take you a while to save, then don't buy components yet - wait until you have all the money for the system and then buy it then - that way you will have the latest components. If you want better graphics now, then get a new PSU and inexpensive GPU while you save up for your new system.
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September 20, 2012 2:29:07 PM

You probably mean 3D Vision and not surround. Surround = 3 monitors...

GTX 680 SLI can't run 3D surround perfectly smooth on most games at 1080p (60 fps). Hell GTX 680 SLI is just enough to play most games on 2D surround maxed out.

If you're talking 3D vision only (single monitor), you may be able to do it if you lower the settings with 2 GTX 550tis. However you need a new PSU.
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September 20, 2012 2:33:38 PM

Don't even try 3D Vision Discover. Doesn't worth. It's horrible. It's based in that old red/cyan technic.
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September 20, 2012 2:37:52 PM

SLI required 600+ or higher PSU
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September 20, 2012 4:02:12 PM

You're looking at 800-900 dollars in monitors to run 3D vision surround so if you can't afford a better GPU than a 550ti or a 285 I don't know how you are going to afford the screens. You will need SLI to run 3D surround no matter what cards you get, and SLI with low end cards is known to cause micro stutter issues that would probably be very frustrating to a pro gamer, so I would not go with 2 GT 550ti's. I also wouldn't go with 2 GTX 285s because their power requirements do not match their performance when compared to newer cards. The GTX 460 performs about the same as a 285 while using about 50% less power, and can be found alot cheaper than 160 bucks, at least in the U.S, and the 5** and 6** cards are even more efficient. If I were you I would forget about 3d vision surround for now and buy the best single GPU that you can afford, then down the road if you get enough saved to go for a 3 screen 3D setup buy a seconds GPU and scrap the q8400 and socket 775 setup and get a new socket 1155 SLI motherboard and a new Core i5 or i7.
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September 20, 2012 4:51:26 PM

vitornob said:
Don't even try 3D Vision Discover. Doesn't worth. It's horrible. It's based in that old red/cyan technic.


How horrible is it ? :o  is it literally unplayable ?
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September 20, 2012 5:00:10 PM

benski said:
You're looking at 800-900 dollars in monitors to run 3D vision surround so if you can't afford a better GPU than a 550ti or a 285 I don't know how you are going to afford the screens. You will need SLI to run 3D surround no matter what cards you get, and SLI with low end cards is known to cause micro stutter issues that would probably be very frustrating to a pro gamer, so I would not go with 2 GT 550ti's. I also wouldn't go with 2 GTX 285s because their power requirements do not match their performance when compared to newer cards. The GTX 460 performs about the same as a 285 while using about 50% less power, and can be found alot cheaper than 160 bucks, at least in the U.S, and the 5** and 6** cards are even more efficient. If I were you I would forget about 3d vision surround for now and buy the best single GPU that you can afford, then down the road if you get enough saved to go for a 3 screen 3D setup buy a seconds GPU and scrap the q8400 and socket 775 setup and get a new socket 1155 SLI motherboard and a new Core i5 or i7.


Now you're experienced guys i will listen to you all...
i am gonna upgrade slowly and steadily...as you guys say 285's wont be able to give me enough performance! so i heard about GTX 660ti which is able to do triple screen "without" SLI :bounce:  Now if it really does that its gonna save me a lot of money ...first of all its gonna save me a SLI mobo , another GPU PLUS its gonna give me decent performance...BTW I am not gonna game at 1080p ...medium resolutions are acceptable to me Plus i dont mind gaming at HIGH..not ULTRA
3d Monitors are literally a no problem for me...but i wanted a 3d Surround badly....in future i am willing to do sli 660ti's if i dont get enough performance...seriously 40 FPS is more than enough than me
Leave the other components such as Mobo and psu aside...Talk abiout GPU...660ti worth it ? able to give decent performance without sli ?
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September 20, 2012 7:02:34 PM

What's your price for a 660ti?
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September 20, 2012 7:10:26 PM

The 660's start to choke on any resolution over 1920 x 1080. The GPU is capable but just not enough memory bandwidth.

For gaming across several screens I would go with a 7870, 7950 or GTX670.

If you are only playing CS:GO then a 660 *might* be able to do it. As the Source engine is quite old and well optimized.
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September 20, 2012 7:25:16 PM

You would need at least a 680 to run surround on high settings in any modern game. If you want to do 3d you need a certified monitor and those cost at least $200+ each.
3d surround would probably require 3 680's at least to achieve playable framerates on HD medium settings in modern games. A 550ti will come nowhere near what you want and neither will a 285. The things you are looking for need(3d surround on modern games):
A new motherboard: $140-$200 for anything decent
A new psu: $100-$250
New ram$:$60
New CPU: $300
New GPU('s):$600+
Remember, what you're asking for is stuff that people spend ludicrous amounts of money on. If you're playing professional cs:go, all you really need is a 7850/660/650 for 1080p at 60fps which is enough. That'll also play most modern games at 1080p in medium settings at 30-60fps. Your CPU is a huge bottleneck but that could get costly. If you are willing to spend the money try an i3-2120 + ASrock H61M/U3S3 which will be enough to prevent any bottlenecks
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September 20, 2012 7:36:47 PM

Good luck running ANY high endish card on 230 watts of power. I'm assuming its less than that because you say the system is old.
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September 21, 2012 5:06:57 AM

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September 21, 2012 5:11:13 AM

benski said:
What's your price for a 660ti?


In india its available for INR 25000 i.e 460$ !!! :o 

On ebay lowest i could find is 339$ ....The zotac version

I was just curious...as statted above i will need 3x 680's to play at 3 monitor at playable framerates....how does 6870 and such amd equivalents do it with single card...i have saw videos on these low end cards doing eyefinity with single card :ouch: 
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September 21, 2012 5:29:20 AM

Guys i have quick last question over here
if i get a sli mobo....stock it with a 480 and used my old 9400gt or any other cheapo card for extra monitor will it work ? and also will the 3d work ???
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September 21, 2012 11:44:29 AM

A 480 is 2 generations old. It doesn't support gaming across 3 screens. No, you cannot SLI a 480 and a 9400gt. You can use a second card to have your desktop on it while playing a game but it will not render the game to that screen.

There is no cheap solution for what you are wanting. As has been mentioned, for 3 screens to run simultaneously in a game you are going to need a 7870/7950/GTX 670 or better. For 3d Vision, a single 670 *might* work. I highly doubt it, but CS:GO is built on such old tech it may have enough power to render 3 screens and in 3d. If that is what you want and to have it run at 60FPS, I am doubtful that even a single 680 could do that and maintain a constant 60+ fps.
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September 21, 2012 2:27:57 PM

_deadshot said:
In india its available for INR 25000 i.e 460$ !!! :o 

On ebay lowest i could find is 339$ ....The zotac version

I was just curious...as statted above i will need 3x 680's to play at 3 monitor at playable framerates....how does 6870 and such amd equivalents do it with single card...i have saw videos on these low end cards doing eyefinity with single card :ouch: 

You don't need 3x 680s unless you're trying to max out BF3 at 5760x1080. A single 680 gives adequate performance in most games and you can lower settings on ones that struggle.

http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/articles/nvidia-surrou...

It's a 600 dollar card though here and I imagine it's even more over there. IMO the 660ti is overpriced and you could probably find a pair of 460s or maybe even 560s at that same price that would outperform it. It has the advantage of being able to run 3 screens on a single card but seems crippled by it's memory bandwidth and a poor choice for an SLI config.

http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_conten...






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September 21, 2012 10:02:20 PM

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