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November 14, 2012 11:02:05 PM

Asus Lga 1155 Intel Z77 Hdmi Sata 6 GB/S Usb 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard P8Z77-V LX

EVGA GeForce GTX670 SuperClocked 4096MB GDDR5, 2x Dual-Link DVI, HDMI, DP, 4-Way SLI Ready Graphics Card 04G-P4-2673-KR

Intel Core i5-3570K Quad-Core Processor 3.4 GHz 6 MB Cache LGA 1155 BX80637I53570K

Noctua NH-D14 6 Dual Heatpipe with 140 mm/120 mm Dual SSO Bearing Fans CPU Cooler - Retail (Silver)

Corsair Vengeance Performance 16 GB 2X8 GBDDR3 1600Mhz Cl10 Unbuffered Dimm Dual Channel Memory CMZ16GX3M2A1600C10R (Red)

Western Digital 2 TB WD Green SATA III Intellipower 64 MB Cache Bulk/OEM Desktop Hard Drive WD20EARX

Seagate Barracuda 7200 1 TB 7200RPM SATA 6 Gb/s NCQ 64MB Cache 3.5-Inch Internal Bare Drive ST1000DM003

OCZ Technology 128GB Vertex 4 Series SATA 6.0 GB/s 2.5-Inch Solid State Drive with Industry's Highest 120K IOPS and 5-Year Warranty VTX4-25SAT3-128G

OCZ Technology OCZZ1000M 1000W Z-Series Gold

NZXT Switch 810 Matte Black Hybrid Thermal Performance Silent Extreme Airflow EATX Full Tower

Ive been working on it for a day now and I need advice regarding the build.
i7 or i5?
What about future proofing?
Which MOBO is best?
Am I using the right Graphics card?
Anything missing besides a cd drive?
Is it good enough to run 2 screens?

All advice is appreciated, my rig will mainly be for gaming/watching films.
this is my first build, normally I pay others to do it and end up disappointed.
I know ill have to overclock but i guess ill cross that bridge once I get to it.

Im using amazon to pick and order parts and I live in Canada.
Budget between 1700-1900

Thank you in advance for the help



November 14, 2012 11:34:03 PM

For gaming, i5-3570k is about as high as is usually worth going but on a $1700 budget, you can afford going with i7-3770k just for the heck of it and possible slight future-proofing.

Overclocking is generally not required unless you try pushing details and framerates to extremes mostly for bragging rights or really need to run stuff that much faster but that is not going to help you much with watching movies since even 4-5 years old PCs can handle BD.

Running a second screen to display extra stuff while gaming only on one display does not require much extra GPU power/RAM. If you want to extend your game screen to two displays then that might require a little more muscle depending on how high you plan to push graphics details but playing in ultra-widescreen with the screens' bezels right in front of you would be awkward. If that was what you meant, you might want to consider triple-display instead, which may require bumping your GPU choice up another notch.
November 14, 2012 11:51:53 PM

Ok so back to 3770k it is, it was my first choice
And since overclocking isnt important...even better because I dont like the
Idea of overclocking...
I didnt mean gaming on both screens that would be weird just maybe gaming on 1 and playing on another?
Idk im exagerating by getting this gfx card but i dont change pcs very
Often, every 6-10 years so im just trying to maybe get a gfx card i wont need to change for a while...
Crossfire? Dual sli? Thats just confjsing
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November 14, 2012 11:57:10 PM

Cattouf said:
Asus Lga 1155 Intel Z77 Hdmi Sata 6 GB/S Usb 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard P8Z77-V LX

EVGA GeForce GTX670 SuperClocked 4096MB GDDR5, 2x Dual-Link DVI, HDMI, DP, 4-Way SLI Ready Graphics Card 04G-P4-2673-KR

Intel Core i5-3570K Quad-Core Processor 3.4 GHz 6 MB Cache LGA 1155 BX80637I53570K

Noctua NH-D14 6 Dual Heatpipe with 140 mm/120 mm Dual SSO Bearing Fans CPU Cooler - Retail (Silver)

Corsair Vengeance Performance 16 GB 2X8 GBDDR3 1600Mhz Cl10 Unbuffered Dimm Dual Channel Memory CMZ16GX3M2A1600C10R (Red)

Western Digital 2 TB WD Green SATA III Intellipower 64 MB Cache Bulk/OEM Desktop Hard Drive WD20EARX

Seagate Barracuda 7200 1 TB 7200RPM SATA 6 Gb/s NCQ 64MB Cache 3.5-Inch Internal Bare Drive ST1000DM003

OCZ Technology 128GB Vertex 4 Series SATA 6.0 GB/s 2.5-Inch Solid State Drive with Industry's Highest 120K IOPS and 5-Year Warranty VTX4-25SAT3-128G

OCZ Technology OCZZ1000M 1000W Z-Series Gold

NZXT Switch 810 Matte Black Hybrid Thermal Performance Silent Extreme Airflow EATX Full Tower

Ive been working on it for a day now and I need advice regarding the build.
i7 or i5?
What about future proofing?
Which MOBO is best?
Am I using the right Graphics card?
Anything missing besides a cd drive?
Is it good enough to run 2 screens?

All advice is appreciated, my rig will mainly be for gaming/watching films.
this is my first build, normally I pay others to do it and end up disappointed.
I know ill have to overclock but i guess ill cross that bridge once I get to it.

Im using amazon to pick and order parts and I live in Canada.
Budget between 1700-1900

Thank you in advance for the help


A couple things I noticed, for one the 1kw psu is a bit much typically that is reserved for crossfire or sli machines which this machine does not include I would recommend a psu at about 700w so you have room for an upgrade and wont be going overboard.

The i5 3570k is a good choice if you are OCing, you can easily downgrade to a i5 3570 if you don't plan on OCing and get the same performance but not be able to OC it, and the i5

3570k or 3570 are both fantastic processors (and in some cases the best) right now for gaming and will be into the future.

Your mobo is fine the z77 is great right now, and you can easily upgrade components later.

Your GPU choice is fine but i would recommend a different bran Asus being the coolest, and zotac being the fastest (but loud and hot). Though if you want to stick with EVGA that is fine.

Unless you plan on buying cds/dvds you don't need a cd drive and if you are going to watch movies via disc then spend the extra 40$ and get a blu ray drive. Nothing else is missing except if you want premium sound quality then a sound card but you will be fine without one they are not necessary for good sound quality today.

To answer your last question yes it can run 2 screens, but you might experience very low fps (if you plan on having an extra wide resolution above 1920x1080) then you should run sli with 2 normal 670s and get reasonable performance there, and even in that case you still will not need a 1kw psi.

Also with having 3tb of hdd and 128gb sad is a bit overboard, if you plan on watching movies via netflix (or amazon) you won't need to store them on your hard drive you will have plenty of space with something like a WD Caviar Black 1TB for mass file storage and the 128gb ssd as a boot drive/games.

16gb 1600mhz ram is a bit much you only need 8gb unless you are going to be running ram intensive programs such as adobe photoshop etc... you can go with 8gb and something faster like 1866mhz for less money.

Best of luck with your build!
November 15, 2012 12:21:58 AM

burritobob said:
16gb 1600mhz ram is a bit much you only need 8gb unless you are going to be running ram intensive programs such as adobe photoshop etc...

On a $1700 budget, I would have a hard time settling for less than 16GB considering how inexpensive RAM is these days. Only $35 extra to not have to worry about RAM for a few years longer.

Another way to look at it: 2% of the budget to possibly increase the rig's useful life by 2-3 years.
November 15, 2012 12:35:24 AM

So if id rather not OC should I go with an i7-3770k?
Dual SLi means 2 gfx cards?

Ill change the power supply to something smaller 750w
Ill remove the 1 gig hd

I really want my pc to stay useful for as long as possible xD
So how would I do that?

Ill get on it tomorrow as soon as im done with work,
If you can provide me with extra advice I wont say no...

I always get stuck when buying something especially when its an investement
I dont like feeling buyers remorse, i could have gotten more efficient parts etc etc



November 15, 2012 12:56:40 AM

If you want lasting go with the 3770k you can OC incase you bottleneck in the future, the 1kw PSU will be fine for triple SLI incase you want to upgrade there. If making parts last is a big deal make sure you have fans/cooling other than what it comes with if your parts aren't melting then they obviously will have a longer lifespan, and with cooling you can PC your parts.
Overall the i7 is always a good choice. You cannot go wrong with SLI 670s which are pretty much future proof you could say. Go with a faster 16gb ram if you are going to be using this for a while Invalid error is right on that. Overall the comp will last many years. If i could be curious what montior/resolution will you be playing at, if it is anything above 1980x1080 resolution I would recommend AMD GPUs for that such as the 7950s in Crossfire (AMD's version of SLI etc.)
November 15, 2012 1:08:06 AM

The 3770K is mainly a recommendation based on your $1700 budget. If you actually want to go cost-conscious and skip overclocking, you could step down to i5-3570, maybe even i5-3470. Without overclocking, you can also drop the Noctua HSF for a Hyper 212EVO for half the price or use the stock HSF for the first few years. If the LGA1155 HSF turns out the same as the LGA775 one, it will start loosening up in ~3 years and will need to be replaced.

SLI (or CFX for AMD GPUs) is for configuration of 2/3/4 GPUs. If you are not interested in doing something like that, you can step down to a micro-ATX H77-based board instead and also dial down the PSU to ~500W.

Once you start compromising, there is a lot of stuff that can be cut off so you really need to ask yourself how much do you actually want/need. Most games today will run reasonably well even on i3. Today's i5-3xxx will likely remain perfectly viable gaming CPUs for the next 3-5 years depending on how high your demands/expectations are.

Personally, I would still be using my C2D-E8400 if upgrading it to 16GB had been cost-effective. But at $330 for 16GB brand-new DDR2, it made a lot more sense to spend $380 on i5-3470 + P8H77-M + 16GB DDR3 instead.
November 15, 2012 8:16:21 AM

Ok so here's what I changed,

Asus Lga 1155 Intel Z77 Hdmi Sata 6 GB/S Usb 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard P8Z77-V LX

EVGA GeForce GTX670 SuperClocked 4096MB GDDR5, 2x Dual-Link DVI, HDMI, DP, 4-Way SLI Ready Graphics Card 04G-P4-2673-KR

Intel Core i7 3770K Processor 3.5 4 LGA 1155 BX80637I73770

Noctua NH-D14 6 Dual Heatpipe with 140 mm/120 mm Dual SSO Bearing Fans CPU Cooler - Retail (Silver)

Corsair Vengeance Performance 16 GB 2X8 GBDDR3 1600Mhz Cl10 Unbuffered Dimm Dual Channel Memory CMZ16GX3M2A1600C10R (Red)

Seagate Barracuda 7200 1 TB 7200RPM SATA 6 Gb/s NCQ 64MB Cache 3.5-Inch Internal Bare Drive ST1000DM003

OCZ Technology 128GB Vertex 4 Series SATA 6.0 GB/s 2.5-Inch Solid State Drive with Industry's Highest 120K IOPS and 5-Year Warranty VTX4-25SAT3-128G

NZXT Switch 810 Matte Black Hybrid Thermal Performance Silent Extreme Airflow EATX Full Tower

EVGA GeForce GTX670 SuperClocked 4096MB GDDR5, 2x Dual-Link DVI, HDMI, DP, 4-Way SLI Ready Graphics Card 04G-P4-2673-KR

I thought about it and I do see overclocking

November 15, 2012 8:30:24 AM

burritobob said:
If you want lasting go with the 3770k you can OC incase you bottleneck in the future, the 1kw PSU will be fine for triple SLI incase you want to upgrade there. If making parts last is a big deal make sure you have fans/cooling other than what it comes with if your parts aren't melting then they obviously will have a longer lifespan, and with cooling you can PC your parts.
Overall the i7 is always a good choice. You cannot go wrong with SLI 670s which are pretty much future proof you could say. Go with a faster 16gb ram if you are going to be using this for a while Invalid error is right on that. Overall the comp will last many years. If i could be curious what montior/resolution will you be playing at, if it is anything above 1980x1080 resolution I would recommend AMD GPUs for that such as the 7950s in Crossfire (AMD's version of SLI etc.)



A gtx 670 is plenty for 1080 with the option for SLI later.

Microstuttering is rampant in crossfire on the 7000 series with big frame jumps and very inconsistent high frame times. Good for a benching rig but not for gaming.
November 15, 2012 8:31:56 AM

In the future and possible having dual gpus, I never tried that so why not if it will make my pc last longer
I will need to have the exact same evga gtx 670 to do that right?
I'm also ordering 2 extra 200mm nzxt fans from my local best buy.

My old pc had 2 fans total, and they were always running at max speed
It made so much noise that now I'm adding more fans so that it won't be as loud

I want my pc to be silent invisible and deadly...like a ninja...

Anyways
Price tag for all ~1600$

Forgot this

Corsair Enthusiast Series TX750 V2 750W ATX 12V 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC High Performance Power Supply CMPSU-750TXV2

I hope it will be enough wattage for the future!
November 15, 2012 8:42:00 AM

Cattouf said:
In the future and possible having dual gpus, I never tried that so why not if it will make my pc last longer
I will need to have the exact same evga gtx 670 to do that right?
I'm also ordering 2 extra 200mm nzxt fans from my local best buy.

My old pc had 2 fans total, and they were always running at max speed
It made so much noise that now I'm adding more fans so that it won't be as loud

I want my pc to be silent invisible and deadly...like a ninja...

Anyways
Price tag for all this just jumped to 1900$

Forgot this

Corsair Enthusiast Series TX750 V2 750W ATX 12V 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC High Performance Power Supply CMPSU-750TXV2

I hope it will be enough wattage for the future!


Just two GTX 670's of any brand will be fine. That is a good PSU but if you plan to go SLI 670's maybe bump up the wattage in the same corsair line. Maybe 850w
November 15, 2012 8:53:33 AM

darth pravus said:
Just two GTX 670's of any brand will be fine. That is a good PSU but if you plan to go SLI 670's maybe bump up the wattage in the same corsair line. Maybe 850w


Ok I'll change that right now
November 15, 2012 10:04:09 AM

This is my new power supply

Corsair HX Professional Series 850-Watt 80 Plus Certified Power Supply Compatible with Core i7 and Core i5 - CMPSU-850HX

Idk what resolution I will be running
I normally run 1920x1200 with my 1gig ram & gts 8800
So I imagine I can run crazy resolutions with this new pc.

The only thing I'm scared of right now is whether or not the pc I chose can be made better on my budget, is this really a 1700$ computer
November 15, 2012 10:16:15 AM

Cattouf said:
This is my new power supply

Corsair HX Professional Series 850-Watt 80 Plus Certified Power Supply Compatible with Core i7 and Core i5 - CMPSU-850HX

Idk what resolution I will be running
I normally run 1920x1200 with my 1gig ram & gts 8800
So I imagine I can run crazy resolutions with this new pc.

The only thing I'm scared of right now is whether or not the pc I chose can be made better on my budget, is this really a 1700$ computer



Good PSU choice. Gtx 670 will pretty much max all at 1920x1200 and SLI you will be good for much higher.

I'm not sure of how pricing is wherever you are but it's certainly a cheap machine. Enthusiast tastes tend to cost enthusiast money :pt1cable: 
November 15, 2012 10:34:04 AM

Yeah, I was going to say, don't go OCZ for anything. Corsair makes good psus although I usually recommend Seasonic. I would also replace the SSD with one from Samsung or Crucial. The rest of your build looks great.
November 15, 2012 10:34:28 AM

darth pravus said:
Good PSU choice. Gtx 670 will pretty much max all at 1920x1200 and SLI you will be good for much higher.

I'm not sure of how pricing is wherever you are but it's certainly a cheap machine. Enthusiast tastes tend to cost enthusiast money :pt1cable: 


Ahahah I'm in Canada eh?!
Lol I must be poor then if for you 1700$ is a cheap rig
I know it's not those super crazy pcs but I thought it would still be really good, oh well.
I was just hoping that for 1700$ I was getting my money's worth.

Can you explain to me what's the difference between superclocked and overclocked?
4 way sli ?? That means I can hook up 4 different gpus?
Dual link dvi?
my gpu has so many things written next to it..

Spanx
November 15, 2012 10:45:10 AM

Cattouf said:
Ahahah I'm in Canada eh?!
Lol I must be poor then if for you 1700$ is a cheap rig
I know it's not those super crazy pcs but I thought it would still be really good, oh well.
I was just hoping that for 1700$ I was getting my money's worth.

Can you explain to me what's the difference between superclocked and overclocked?
4 way sli ?? That means I can hook up 4 different gpus?
Dual link dvi?
my gpu has so many things written next to it..

Spanx


Woops. Might have meant to write certainly not.

Superclocked is a level of EVGA card. It's just a model name for an overclocked GPU. Overclocking is making your component faster than it was set to run out of factory.

4 way SLI does mean you can use 4 gpu's together and Dual link DVI is a type on monitor lead.

Hope that helps :) 
November 15, 2012 11:25:16 AM

maestro0428 said:
Yeah, I was going to say, don't go OCZ for anything. Corsair makes good psus although I usually recommend Seasonic. I would also replace the SSD with one from Samsung or Crucial. The rest of your build looks great.


This is my final build in regards to what you proposed:

NZXT 200mm 11-Blade Rifle Bearing Low-Speed Fan (FS-200RB) x2

Crucial CT128M4SSD2 128 GB m4 SATA 6Gb/s 2.5-Inch Solid State Drive x2

Corsair HX Professional Series 850-Watt 80 Plus Certified Power Supply Compatible with Core i7 and Core i5
(couldn't find seasonic pcu with more than 650w on amazon)


Asus Lga 1155 Intel Z77 Hdmi Sata 6 GB/S Usb 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard P8Z77-V LX

EVGA GeForce GTX670 SuperClocked 4096MB GDDR5, 2x Dual-Link DVI, HDMI, DP, 4-Way SLI Ready Graphics Card 04G-P4-2673-KR

Intel Core i7 3770K Processor 3.5 4 LGA 1155 BX80637I73770

Noctua NH-D14 6 Dual Heatpipe with 140 mm/120 mm Dual SSO Bearing Fans CPU Cooler - Retail (Silver)

Corsair Vengeance Performance 16 GB 2X8 GBDDR3 1600Mhz Cl10 Unbuffered Dimm Dual Channel Memory CMZ16GX3M2A1600C10R (Red)

Seagate Barracuda 7200 1 TB 7200RPM SATA 6 Gb/s NCQ 64MB Cache 3.5-Inch Internal Bare Drive ST1000DM003

NZXT Switch 810 Matte Black Hybrid Thermal Performance Silent Extreme Airflow EATX Full Tower

Thank you for your advice y'all
Any final thoughts?

Price tag ~ 1700$can
November 15, 2012 11:37:47 AM

Cattouf said:
This is my final build in regards to what you proposed:

NZXT 200mm 11-Blade Rifle Bearing Low-Speed Fan (FS-200RB) x2

Crucial CT128M4SSD2 128 GB m4 SATA 6Gb/s 2.5-Inch Solid State Drive x2

Corsair HX Professional Series 850-Watt 80 Plus Certified Power Supply Compatible with Core i7 and Core i5
(couldn't find seasonic pcu with more than 650w on amazon)


Asus Lga 1155 Intel Z77 Hdmi Sata 6 GB/S Usb 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard P8Z77-V LX

EVGA GeForce GTX670 SuperClocked 4096MB GDDR5, 2x Dual-Link DVI, HDMI, DP, 4-Way SLI Ready Graphics Card 04G-P4-2673-KR

Intel Core i7 3770K Processor 3.5 4 LGA 1155 BX80637I73770

Noctua NH-D14 6 Dual Heatpipe with 140 mm/120 mm Dual SSO Bearing Fans CPU Cooler - Retail (Silver)

Corsair Vengeance Performance 16 GB 2X8 GBDDR3 1600Mhz Cl10 Unbuffered Dimm Dual Channel Memory CMZ16GX3M2A1600C10R (Red)

Seagate Barracuda 7200 1 TB 7200RPM SATA 6 Gb/s NCQ 64MB Cache 3.5-Inch Internal Bare Drive ST1000DM003

NZXT Switch 810 Matte Black Hybrid Thermal Performance Silent Extreme Airflow EATX Full Tower

Thank you for your advice y'all
Any final thoughts?

Price tag ~ 1700$can


All seems to be good to me.

Only thing I would say is the RAM heatsinks might be too tall to go under the CPU heatsink. Maybe some vengeance LP would be better.

Enjoy your build
November 15, 2012 11:45:45 AM

I originally thought the price seemed a bit high, I guess you are looking to buy everything from the same place. But just in case this may save you a few bucks. I think I used the exact parts you were planning on for this build. (PS. Will Vengeance Ram clear that CPU Cooler?)

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($324.99 @ Amazon Canada) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($68.99 @ Computer Valley) Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V LX ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($114.99 @ NCIX) Memory: Corsair Vengeance 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($79.49 @ Newegg Canada) Storage: Western Digital Caviar Green 2TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($99.99 @ NCIX) Storage: OCZ Vertex 4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($104.99 @ Canada Computers) Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 670 4GB Video Card ($449.99 @ Newegg Canada) Case: NZXT Switch 810 (Black) ATX Full Tower Case ($189.99 @ NCIX) Power Supply: Corsair Enthusiast 850W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($114.99 @ NCIX) Total: $1548.41 (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.) (Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-11-15 08:28 EST-0500)


If you really want to spend $1700 I think this is a very solid system. Personally I would prefer to save about $300 by downgrading to the I5-3570K and 2GB GTX670, 8GB of Ram and a smaller PSU (which should still handle dual GPUs). You could also shave $100 off easily by going to a cheaper case (Which is a matter of personal preference)

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.99 @ NCIX) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($68.99 @ Computer Valley) Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V LX ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($114.99 @ NCIX) Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($37.99 @ Newegg Canada) Storage: Western Digital Caviar Green 2TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($99.99 @ NCIX) Storage: OCZ Vertex 4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($104.99 @ Canada Computers) Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($349.99 @ NCIX) Case: NZXT Switch 810 (Black) ATX Full Tower Case ($189.99 @ NCIX) Power Supply: XFX 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($79.99 @ NCIX) Total: $1266.91 (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.) (Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-11-15 08:45 EST-0500)

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I originally thought the price seemed a bit high, I guess you are looking to buy everything from the same place. But just in case this may save you a few bucks. I think I used the exact parts you were planning on for this build. (PS. Will Vengeance Ram clear that CPU Cooler?)

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($324.99 @ Amazon Canada) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($68.99 @ Computer Valley) Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V LX ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($114.99 @ NCIX) Memory: Corsair Vengeance 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($79.49 @ Newegg Canada) Storage: Western Digital Caviar Green 2TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($99.99 @ NCIX) Storage: OCZ Vertex 4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($104.99 @ Canada Computers) Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 670 4GB Video Card ($449.99 @ Newegg Canada) Case: NZXT Switch 810 (Black) ATX Full Tower Case ($189.99 @ NCIX) Power Supply: Corsair Enthusiast 850W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($114.99 @ NCIX) Total: $1548.41 (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.) (Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-11-15 08:28 EST-0500)


If you really want to spend $1700 I think this is a very solid system. Personally I would prefer to save about $300 by downgrading to the I5-3570K and 2GB GTX670, 8GB of Ram and a smaller PSU (which should still handle dual GPUs). You could also shave $100 off easily by going to a cheaper case (Which is a matter of personal preference)

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.99 @ NCIX) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($68.99 @ Computer Valley) Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V LX ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($114.99 @ NCIX) Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($37.99 @ Newegg Canada) Storage: Western Digital Caviar Green 2TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($99.99 @ NCIX) Storage: OCZ Vertex 4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($104.99 @ Canada Computers) Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($349.99 @ NCIX) Case: NZXT Switch 810 (Black) ATX Full Tower Case ($189.99 @ NCIX) Power Supply: XFX 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($79.99 @ NCIX) Total: $1266.91 (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.) (Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-11-15 08:45 EST-0500)


I agree on the i5 front and a 2gb 670. 8gb of ram is plenty but 16 is so cheap why not go for it?

I wouldn't be happy with 2 gtx 670's and an oc'd i5 on 650w. Seems like you might be putting it under too much load for comfort. You really want to be 20% of full load. Anymore is a bit too much I think.
November 15, 2012 3:10:25 PM

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Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/ca/p/nP8b/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/ca/p/nP8b/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($324.99 @ Amazon Canada)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($68.99 @ Computer Valley)
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V LX ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($114.99 @ NCIX)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($67.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Green 2TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($99.99 @ NCIX)
Storage: Crucial V4 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($160.00 @ Newegg Canada)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 670 4GB Video Card ($449.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Case: NZXT Switch 810 (Black) ATX Full Tower Case ($189.99 @ NCIX)
Power Supply: Corsair Enthusiast 850W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($114.99 @ NCIX)
Total: $1591.92
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-11-15 12:05 EST-0500)

Ok khalas this is it lol

Thanks for this website wish I knew it existed earlier
November 16, 2012 11:56:16 AM

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Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/ca/p/nVCa/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/ca/p/nVCa/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($329.99 @ NCIX)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($89.99 @ NCIX)
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V LX ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($114.99 @ NCIX)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($78.98 @ NCIX)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Green 2TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($99.99 @ NCIX)
Storage: Samsung 830 Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($105.98 @ NCIX)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($349.99 @ NCIX)
Case: NZXT Switch 810 (Black) ATX Full Tower Case ($189.99 @ NCIX)
Power Supply: Corsair Enthusiast 850W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($114.99 @ NCIX)
Total: $1474.89
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-11-16 08:41 EST-0500)

Ok just last questions and 1 final build,
If I install my os and games on the ssd will it increase the speed of launching?
Is it better if I get 1 64gb ssd for os & 1 128gb ssd for games?
I changed the gfx 4gig to a 2gig one because y'all said it not really worth it, it is now a egva gtx 670 ftw I'll just buy 2 when I want to increase it's life.
The whole packages is about 30kg hope it doesn't get damaged q.q my baby
I decided to order everything from ncix because there are no shipping costs and for some reason there's only 5% tax when shipping to Quebec.
November 16, 2012 12:22:50 PM

Launching games from SSD should be a fair bit faster since the SSD has 3-4X as much read bandwidth as conventional HDDs and much faster access times. Once loaded though, the 16GB RAM should be enough for Windows' cache to hold all frequently accessed data.

I have no SSD in my PC and since I reboot only once a month, the longer first-time launch times do not bother me much.
November 16, 2012 12:30:11 PM

SSD's are well worth the money. The make the whole system feel more fluid.

I tend to put my most played games on it so I can patch others without effecting gaming.
November 16, 2012 1:05:18 PM

Ok so I will buy 2 separate ssd one for gaming 1 for os
I'm trying to order 2 NZXT case fans 200mm are those the ones that go inside to keep the air flowing on the inside? Or are those for pulling air into the pc?
November 16, 2012 4:40:35 PM

This topic has been moved from the section CPU & Components to section Systems by Mousemonkey
November 16, 2012 7:23:38 PM

Best answer selected by Cattouf.
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