APU Build

[white90dragon]

How much can i expect from it for gaming? Also can it be future upgradable friendly?

A10-5800K
MSI FM2-A55M-E33
500GB 7200rpm Hitachi Deskstar
2x4GB 1866MHz Partiot Viper 3
DVD/RW Samsung SH-224
Cooler Master Elite 430
Seasonic SS-400W

350 euros | 450$

 

[zared619]

Don't get a hitachi HDD. Get seagate or WD. Drop the Seasonic to a Corsair cx430 v2. Then you might be able to afford a 7660 GPU to crossfire with. That will allow you to play any game you want on medium settings.

 

[completelyrandomname]

Make sure your motherboards supports it and go buy some memory with high speeds. The way APU's architecture works is based on your system memory speeds.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0Z7H1PYUkk

 

[completelyrandomname]

Faster memory can improve your performance by 10-30%

 

[completelyrandomname]

Besides that your build is good, and by the way if you can't get faster memory then stick with 1866.

 

[white90dragon]

I could get 2x4GB 2400MHz Kingston hyper X for 7$ more. Actually i can buy PC for 400 euros | 515$ but i just need suggestions. Btw i can't go with Corsair because here we don't have it stock. Only Seasonic,Cooler Master from better brands oh we don't have Antec and PC Power and Cooling also. Fell free to post build for 515$ for gaming.

 

[zared619]

Cooler master is decent. If it won't give you enough money to get the GPU then don't worry about it. I don't think that the CPU will support RAM faster than 1866, but I could be wrong.

 

[twelve25]

I don't think the APU chipset will run faster than 1866, so no point in 2400Mhz RAM.

In terms of gaming, the onboard APU will be good up to about a 1280 or 1366 monitor resolution. You would want to add something like a 7770 or better to go above that. Tom's did a review, so you can check out the scores in various games.

For example on this page, it is doing well (60fps) at 1280x720, but it's barely above minimum (30fps) at 1680x1050: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/a10-5800k-a8-5600k-a6-5400k,3224-15.html

In terms of upgrade options, you are starting at the top CPU for the FM2 socket, so you shouldn't plan on having any room there. But with the right power supply, you can upgrade to any graphics card you can afford, so being able to play any game should not be a problem in that regard.

 

[white90dragon]

Then it would be better to skip a10 and to get CPU and GPU seperate what you guys think of that? I made another build for 395 euros and here are the parts i chose:

Intel Pentium Dual-Core G860 | 64€
MSI H61M-P20(G3) | 34€
HDD Seagate Barracuda 500GB 7200 | 53€
2x4GB 1600MHz Mushkin Blackline | 34€
DVD/RW Samsung SH-22 | 16€
MSI HD7770 1GB | 106€
Cooler Master Elite 430 | 44€
Seasonic SS-400ET | 44€
You trough's on this build guys? I will be pretty happy if i would be able to get 7850 1GB but i can't its 150€. Thanks for tips

 

[white90dragon]

Any better recommendations?

 

[zared619]

The build you have there seems pretty good to me.

 

[white90dragon]

What you think think about CPU,Mobo,PSU? Im most consider about CPU and Mobo. Will that CPU be able to play GTA4,GTA5,Crysis3,Farcry3? At medium details because im not graphic maniac. And if i could be able to get 500 euros what you suggest? Maybe everything same as this and just HD7870? If you want you can list parts that you will chose

 

[zared619]

Your CPU and PSU are very capable. Gaming heavily relies on the GPU, not the CPU, but a good CPU makes a little difference and Intel is the best right now.
You should be able to play those games on medium settings without a hitch.
You might want to consider getting a different mobo. Something like this.
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/gigabyte-ga-h61m-usb3-b3-intel-h61-s-1155-ddr3-sata-ii-3gb-s-pcie-(x16)-vga-on-board-micro-atx

 

[twelve25]

G860 is basically an i3-2100 without hyperthreading. Games don't hyperthread, so in games it will perform the same an i3. The only way to get considerably better is to go to an i5.

The 7770 will absolutely slaughter the APU graphics from the A10. I don't know what prices are like, but a Nvidia GTX 650 Ti is a hair better than the 7770, so that's worth looking at.

Also It's usually only another 10 bucks or so to go with a 500w Power supply and that will buy you room to upgrade the GPU in the future if you want. 400W will run a 7770, but you'd want 500w for a 7850 or better.

 

[white90dragon]

I was thinking on getting G860 with cheaper motherboard now and upgrade in maybe 2-3 years. So i will be getting new Intel or Amd cpu nad mobo. Can G860 last me 2-3 years? Would it be better to now go for i5 and cheaper gpu? Idk. And what PC would you suggest for 400€ and another for 500€? So i will go for one of them if my budget lets me. Thanks

 

[white90dragon]

IF u need to know what games i will play just ask so you can know which components to chose

 

[white90dragon]

Is there anybody that can answer? I'm waiting answers for long time..

 

[twelve25]

You've got answers. Nobody can predict the future. The G860 will play games now just fine.

 

[Pingypoker]

I really wouldn't recommend getting an APU, when you could get a cheap Intel CPU and a ~$100 discrete GPU and get much better performance.

CPU: Intel Celeron G540 2.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($44.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: EVGA 120-SB-E672-KR Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill NS 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 6850 1GB Video Card ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Rosewill FBM-02 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Logisys 575W ATX12V Power Supply ($30.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Sony AD-7280S-0B DVD/CD Writer ($18.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $384.91

Much cheaper than your original build, yet performs much better. If you are willing to spend more money, I would recommend getting the Pentium G2120 or G860 instead of the Celeron G540.

 

[white90dragon]

Intel Pentium Dual-Core G860 | 64€
MSI H61M-P20(G3) | 34€
HDD Seagate Barracuda 500GB 7200 | 53€
2x2GB 1333MHz Kingston | 17€
DVD/RW Samsung SH-22 | 16€
Powercolor HD6870 1GB | 124€
Spire Maverick 6009 | 25€
Seasonic SS-400ET | 44€
377€ because there is no 6850 here. Is it good? Or is there difference between G540 and G860 too much?

 

[completelyrandomname]

for that price its as good as it can get, the pentium g processors are locked so you cant overclock them, the higher the frequency the better but the 860 should be fine, you may want to upgrade it in the future though.

 

[zared619]

You should be able to play current games just fine. People are making a big deal over the CPU, when any half decent CPU will do the job. Games are GPU dependent, and the G860 will do just fine

 

[white90dragon]

I can do this but it isn't worth because i will not gonna have good GPU.
Intel Quad-Core i5-3330 | 150€
MSI H61M-P20(G3) | 34€
HDD Seagate Barracuda 500GB 7200 | 53€
2x2GB 1333MHz Kingston | 17€
DVD/RW Samsung SH-22 | 16€
Spire Maverick 6009 | 25€
Seasonic SS-400ET | 44€
Total: 339€
But if i will be on 500€ budget what would you suggest?

 

[zared619]

With a 500€ you could get this. It is just a shade over.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Pentium G860 3.0GHz Dual-Core Processor (£49.19 @ CCL Computers)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H61MA-D3V Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard (£45.62 @ CCL Computers)
Memory: Patriot Intel Extreme Master, Limited Ed 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£29.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Storage: Toshiba 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£45.50 @ Ebuyer)
Video Card: MSI Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card (£149.74 @ Scan.co.uk)
Case: Zalman Z9 Plus ATX Mid Tower Case (£43.99 @ Dabs)
Power Supply: Silverstone Strider Essential 400W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply (£37.68 @ Scan.co.uk)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-222BB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer (£11.96 @ Scan.co.uk)
Total: £413.67
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-11-18 19:18 GMT+0000)

 

[white90dragon]

Is this better than yours?
Intel Dual-Core G860 | 64€
MSI H61MA-D2V | 46€
HD7870 Sapphire GHz Edition 2GB | 204€
HDD Seagate Barracuda 500GB 7200 | 53€
2x4GB 1333MHz Mushkin Silverline | 32€
DVD/RW Samsung SH-22 | 16€
Spire Maverick 6009 | 25€
Seasonic SS-500ET | 62€
Total: 502€
I could drop 500W to 400W and i will save 18€ and 8GB to 4GB more 8€ and motherboard to H61m-P20 more 12€ so i can get GTX660-ti instead of HD7870. Price of 660ti droped here crazy so its good deal. I could probably keep 8GB. But will 660ti work with 400W?