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November 17, 2012 1:49:57 AM

Hello everybody. I have a nice little build that I've come up with. I've been looking around, studying, and reading up on computer stuff on the interwebs for a few months now, and am a fairly educated buyer. I just wanted to post it on TH and see if I missed anything. I have no specified budget, and am looking for a sweet gaming build. So here you go!

-Build-
AsRock 990FX-A Extreme3 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

AMD FX-4100 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Corsair H60 LC - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Kingston HyperX 8GB (2x2GB) - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

XFX 7770 OC (HAVE)
Dynex 520w (HAVE)
Sunbeam AC9B-HUVB (non-negotiable)
ADATA 256GB SSD - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Vizio 42" 1080p 120Hz - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

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a b 4 Gaming
November 17, 2012 2:04:31 AM

whats the sunbeam? fan controller? if yes, forget it. its useless. you already have fan control from the motherboard and the case im using has silent fans

good luck with the dynex power supply. hope it doesnt blow up

intel is better for gaming. if a intel pentium g630 matches a fx 8150 in games, i see no point of amd

another thing is id rather get a small SSD and spend the rest on a good GPU or a CPU since the SSD offers no performance increase

your 7770 wont play 3d nor is the tv 120hz. tvs run at 30hz. all of them. just that they keep flashing the image so that the human eye is tricked into thinking it is super smooth. get a good monitor like a vs228h-p from asus and call it a day

the components that i would get
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/o0HW

take into consideration that you can save money on the SSD and the tv and spend it onto the rig and get a i5
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a b 4 Gaming
November 17, 2012 6:39:37 AM

The Bulldozer series CPUs like the FX-4100 are pretty horrible for gaming. If you really want AMD, get the FX-4300 - or for just $10 more, the FX-6300. They perform fairly well against the Intel i3 even in games.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/699?vs=677

As you can see, it actually outperforms i3 on both games tested.

Also, I'm not sure how fairly ADATA SSDs perform, but here's a surely better one.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B007RARHSO/?tag=pcpapi-20
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a b 4 Gaming
November 17, 2012 7:27:33 AM

Could go either way depending on what you want. You said you have no budget and that could be fatal. Here are two builds that should be able to power through most games. You should put out at least a base budget so people can work with you. I am no expert and just do this in my free time.


Build 1
CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core $219.99
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing $26.29
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Combo or $127.98
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 $39.99
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM $69.99
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 3GB $295.98
Case: Rosewill CHALLENGER ATX Mid Tower $39.99
Power Supply: Antec 620W ATX12V / EPS12V $49.99
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer $19.98
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) Combo or $99.99
Total: $975.17
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/o2eG


Build 2
CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core $219.99
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing $26.29
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V ATX LGA1155 $189.98
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 $39.99
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM $69.99
Samsung 840 Pro Series 128GB 2.5" SSD $149.00
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 670 2GB $359.99
Case: NZXT Phantom (White) ATX Full Tower $119.99
Power Supply: SeaSonic 750W ATX12V / EPS12V $139.99
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer $19.98
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) $91.99
Total: $1427.18
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/o2ep


Please say if I have done something wrong.
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November 17, 2012 9:06:02 AM

If your going to go amd which was your original plan id suggezt th fx 4300 over the 4100 and better yet for an extra 10$ the fx 6300 which will do you just fine.

That dynex psu is trouble waiting to happen i wouldnt trust it too much you can pick up a nice 550w modular antec psu for 59.99 @ amazon much better or a 520w seasonic for 69.99 also modular.

The 7770 isnt horrible but if its in your budget a 7870 is a nice card at a good price or you could spend up on a 7950 if you want both will work great with most if not all games.

Ram id suggest the patriot viper 2x4gb can pick those up for 34$

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/patriot-memory-pv38g160c9k...




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a b 4 Gaming
November 17, 2012 9:31:23 AM

excella1221 said:
MSI 670 PE is controversial.
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/MSI-GTX-660-670-overvo...

Would get the 7950 instead. Close performer to the 670, it actually wins over it on some, great overclocker, and is better for larger resolutions and multi-monitor setups with its higher VRAM and bus rate; and most of all - cheaper.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
The MSI 670 PE are not a issue they fixed that already long ago. Pretty much as soon as TH told on them :lol: 
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a b 4 Gaming
November 17, 2012 9:34:45 AM

TheBigTroll said:
whats the sunbeam? fan controller? if yes, forget it. its useless. you already have fan control from the motherboard and the case im using has silent fans

good luck with the dynex power supply. hope it doesnt blow up

intel is better for gaming. if a intel pentium g630 matches a fx 8150 in games, i see no point of amd

another thing is id rather get a small SSD and spend the rest on a good GPU or a CPU since the SSD offers no performance increase

your 7770 wont play 3d nor is the tv 120hz. tvs run at 30hz. all of them. just that they keep flashing the image so that the human eye is tricked into thinking it is super smooth. get a good monitor like a vs228h-p from asus and call it a day

the components that i would get
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/o0HW

take into consideration that you can save money on the SSD and the tv and spend it onto the rig and get a i5
Sunbeam :heink:  http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=w...
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a b 4 Gaming
November 17, 2012 10:28:10 AM

bigcyco1 said:
The MSI 670 PE are not a issue they fixed that already long ago. Pretty much as soon as TH told on them :lol: 

Nope, they decided to be stubborn about it and refuse to admit their "cheat"; on the other hand though, they're standing behind their product. :p 

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/msi-gpu-GTX-660-Ti-670...
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a b 4 Gaming
November 17, 2012 10:39:12 AM

oh god the acrylic case. oh well, its yours
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a b 4 Gaming
November 17, 2012 10:46:42 AM

Reply from MSI Tech-support.

MSI respects the result which is tested by Tom’s Hardware, but we have much confidence and believe our products would not cause any customer RMA concerns.
Since MSI designs these custom products with overclocking in mind, we “supercharge” these cards because we’re anticipating enthusiast to overclock. Because of this design decision and the higher component quality, we’re able to provide more power to the board resulting in higher and longer GPU Boost operation without reducing the lifetime of the graphics card or warranty term.
MSI’s all graphics cards including GTX 670 and GTX 660 Ti passed strict test and stand behind our products with a 3 year warranty.


Source >> http://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?to...472#msg1188472
This is pretty funny actually and depressing at the same time. Tomshardware is actually provided a disservice here and MSI basically says thanks for telling on us, lets tell the consumers who to thank. If you didn't know earlier, Nvidia was limiting voltage on basically all their cards. Basically MSI is saying well because you told on us, we are limiting the amount of voltage and back tracking on the overclock ability of our videocards because Nvidia is forcing us to.
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a b 4 Gaming
November 17, 2012 11:32:11 AM

In my point of view, MSI agreed to nVIDIA's terms and yet they still decided to go against it behind their backs. If MSI is that bitter, then maybe they should go the XFX route and just completely drop making nVIDIA cards. :lol: 
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a b 4 Gaming
November 17, 2012 5:06:28 PM

excella1221 said:
In my point of view, MSI agreed to nVIDIA's terms and yet they still decided to go against it behind their backs. If MSI is that bitter, then maybe they should go the XFX route and just completely drop making nVIDIA cards. :lol: 
:lol:  Good idea i would nVIDIA to much of control freaks.
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a b 4 Gaming
November 17, 2012 5:20:14 PM

xfx still makes low end nvidia cards
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a b 4 Gaming
November 17, 2012 5:39:41 PM

TheBigTroll said:
just throw everything out the window, suggest a build, say that this performs the same as your rig, and then call him a noob.

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November 20, 2012 12:10:20 PM

Wow. Well I have quite a few advocates of either fx-8300 and i5. And I love that motherboard. No one likes the Dynex PSU, alright then. And you all think I should go for a different GPU? If I did, I'd go for either 7870 or 7970. And on that mobo, I could xFire if I wanted to. And the 256GB is pretty much all the storage I'll need. And if I start getting lots of media, I guess I could throw in a WD 1 or 2TB. And yes, I want the acrylic case. I guess I could return them. Well, thank you. And if I wanted the most insane build out there, my mobo would be the AsRock X79 Extreme11, with 4 680's in SLI.
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November 20, 2012 12:15:21 PM

One more question, would you recommend a Corsair H80 or a Noctua NH-D14?
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a b 4 Gaming
November 20, 2012 12:41:59 PM

Noctua NH-D14 it out preforms Corsair H80.It's also quieter though it's kinda ugly imo lol.
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a b 4 Gaming
November 20, 2012 1:02:23 PM

Get the Silver Arrow then. :p 
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a b 4 Gaming
November 20, 2012 1:06:35 PM

excella1221 said:
Get the Silver Arrow then. :p 
+1
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a b 4 Gaming
November 20, 2012 11:22:11 PM

id rather not bother with the silver arrow. you almost have to use samsung dimms or very low profile stuff since the fans are both 14cm

back to your build.

-32gb is stupid. 8gb is more than enough for gaming
-seagate makes samsung hard drives. why spend more for a slower product?
-price for the vertex 4 is high right now. samsung 830 is a better deal
-4gb 670s are useless unless you are running multi-monitor which you then should use a 7970. note that evga cards are no better than any other cards. the ftw is extremely overhyped if you ask me. its just a 680 cooler and pcb on a 670 chip. better solutions like the msi power edition even if you dont overvolt
-950w is also overkill. 750w is more than enough
-phantom is overkill. the phantom 410 is better
-do you have good headphones? like something above 70 bucks? most things under dont deserve the sound card

heres what i refined
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/oyhC
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a b 4 Gaming
November 20, 2012 11:58:49 PM

The heat sink's height is all you ever have to worry about when considering RAM conflict, and the Silver Arrow basically has the same height as the NH-D14.

The Corsair Vengeance Low Profile he chose are small enough for those. I don't think you can get any smaller RAM than that.

Though I agree 32gb is a bit retarded. Even 8gb you won't be able to max out.
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a b 4 Gaming
November 21, 2012 12:07:02 AM

samsung ram barely goes over the second notch when you install ram. look like crap but performs godly

the silver arrow tends to conflict more. the noctua lets you put 44mm tall ram. since the arrow uses a 14cm fan which is bigger than the 12cm side fan on the noctua, you are in theory limited to 25 ish mm ram.
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a b 4 Gaming
November 21, 2012 12:29:08 AM

I'm a bit confused. Why are we talking about Samsung RAM? :p 
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a b 4 Gaming
November 21, 2012 12:54:14 AM

low profile ram = pick samsung bc super low profile
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a b 4 Gaming
November 21, 2012 12:58:12 AM

@TBT quit giving her a hard time
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a b 4 Gaming
November 21, 2012 2:25:04 AM

nah. its perfectly fine. she said: doubt you can find lower profile ram than corsair LP. i answered: samsung ram is lower profile

whats confusing??
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a b 4 Gaming
November 21, 2012 2:30:47 AM

TheBigTroll said:
nah. its perfectly fine. she said: doubt you can find lower profile ram than corsair LP. i answered: samsung ram is lower profile

whats confusing??
oh o.k. i see what you mean now. :) 
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November 21, 2012 3:49:43 AM

So what did we decide on? All I really want is 2 nice sticks of 4gb 1600mhz ram and a heatsink that won't get in the way. What have we decided on?
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November 21, 2012 4:22:03 AM

Perfect, thank you.
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a b 4 Gaming
November 21, 2012 4:27:18 AM

No problem. Your welcome.
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a b 4 Gaming
November 21, 2012 4:42:02 AM

TheBigTroll said:
nah. its perfectly fine. she said: doubt you can find lower profile ram than corsair LP. i answered: samsung ram is lower profile

whats confusing??

Oh okay. I get it now. :lol: 
Samsung RAMs don't have the protective armor-like thing like what the other brands have.

Regarding the Silver Arrow, after a few research, I found it shouldn't be a problem at all.




Those are using the Ripjaws X tall heat spreaders. RAM series like the Ares, Corsair Vengeance LP, and the Samsungs should have even less problems and provide decent clearance between the two components. The NZXT Phantom you suggested would add to that even more.
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a b 4 Gaming
November 21, 2012 4:51:00 AM

Facepalm i reply to the wrong thread are you sure the EVO is good enough OP? I was helping five people at same time and confused threads so sorry :( 
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November 21, 2012 5:32:02 AM

Haha it's cool. I honestly don't know if the Evo would provide enough cooling performance or not, but I like the half-height RAM.
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a b 4 Gaming
November 21, 2012 9:38:25 AM

if i were to fit my snipers under the arrow, it most likely wouldnt do it. ripjaws are pretty low profile from what my friend was using
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November 22, 2012 1:46:16 AM

Ok so here's my final build:

Procesor: Intel i5-3570k - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU Cooler: Thermalright Silver Arrow SB-E - http://www.amazon.com/Thermalright-Silver-Arrow-SB-E-Un...

Motherboard: AsRock Z77 Extreme4 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2x4GB) 1600Mhz Low Profile - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPU: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7970 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU: XFX Core Edition Pro 750w - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Storage: Adata Premier Pro 256GB SSD - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Also, I have a spare 350GB hard drive for data, a monitor, a mouse and keyboard, and a nice little disk drive.
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a b 4 Gaming
November 22, 2012 2:20:59 AM

-a better cooler. noctua is cheaper than the silver arrow. why not get it instead

use this link
http://www.mwave.com/mwave/SKUSearch_v3.asp?px=FX&scrit...

price match with this
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=47090&vpn=NH-D14&manuf...

-this ram is cheaper and fits under noctua
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

-better and faster SSD
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

- if you want to save 80 bucks on the video card, a gtx 670 performs pretty well against a 7970ghz. performs on par with the regular
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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November 22, 2012 5:39:50 AM

Does the 670 overclock well?
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a b 4 Gaming
November 22, 2012 9:31:13 AM

yes. very well. got 200 more mhz out of it
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a b 4 Gaming
November 22, 2012 9:40:28 AM

Once you get your card http://www.overclock.net/t/1265110/the-gtx-670-overcloc... Try this tutorial, it goes over EVERYTHING needed for GTX 670 overclocking, and takes into account that each chip is different. I followed this and god great results!On one of my MSI GTX 670 PE



1418 MHZ
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a b 4 Gaming
November 22, 2012 9:44:06 AM

i wouldnt dump that many volts though
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a b 4 Gaming
November 22, 2012 9:50:59 AM

I agree.I am not recommending someone who doesn't know what there doing do it.OP if you want to overclock hardcore get a 7970.
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December 14, 2012 2:00:14 AM

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