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$400 Budget PC Upgrading from a 7yr old PC...

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November 17, 2012 4:20:35 PM

Budget Range: $400 Before Rebates
System Usage: No gaming...well maybe ;p but highly doubt it .... basic usage surf web, burn dvds, play pogo games ;p
Are you buying a monitor: No
Do you need to buy OS: No
Location: Canada
Overclocking: No
SLI or Crossfire: No
Your Monitor Resolution:not sure... 1280x1024
Why Are You Upgrading: 7year old pc getting slow....time for upgrade !
Comments: Might take some parts from old pc...i dont want to tho...Thanks !
Should i take the old psu ? its a 300w and emachines branded pc...

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($79.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-880GM-D2H Micro ATX AM3 Motherboard ($88.49 @ Amazon Canada)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($20.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ NCIX)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($44.99 @ NCIX)
Power Supply: PC Power & Cooling Silencer MK III 400W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($40.42 @ DirectCanada)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($18.79 @ DirectCanada)
Total: $353.66

Is a CPU Cooler needed ?
Base price has to be under $400
Also will i be able to watch youtube videos at 1080p will this build ?
November 17, 2012 4:43:42 PM

Hey drop that build.
Ofc you budget is still limited, but i can offer something betetr for the same money you will even get some moderate gaming
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November 17, 2012 4:46:07 PM

Here
It's just 2$ below your budget
CPU has integrated video, and it even plays BF3 on low settings. And ofcrse you get your usual web surfing, wathching movies and so on

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/ca/p/o4pR
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/ca/p/o4pR/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/ca/p/o4pR/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD A10-5800K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor ($119.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Motherboard: ASRock FM2A75M-DGS Micro ATX FM2 Motherboard ($59.99 @ Canada Computers)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($49.49 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ NCIX)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 430 ATX Mid Tower Case ($43.70 @ DirectCanada)
Power Supply: PC Power & Cooling Silencer MK III 400W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($40.42 @ DirectCanada)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS224-06 DVD/CD Writer ($24.99 @ Canada Computers)
Total: $398.57
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-11-17 13:46 EST-0500)
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November 17, 2012 4:59:02 PM

thanks for the reply but the base price is over $400.... : /
Sorry forgot the mention that in the beginning ....
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November 17, 2012 5:37:37 PM

Butremor's build is right on for your requirements, but the PSU and Case can be substituted for lower quality cheaper ones in this build.

http://pcpartpicker.com/ca/p/o4Kw *Butremor's build with the two edits.

A higher quality PSU is not needed for a build that requires under 200w of power. This cheap Rosewill 350w will do just fine.
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November 17, 2012 6:13:06 PM

Good point Azathoth, i'm not sure how reliable rosewill is, but i'm sure antec is good, and i't be sad if some unreliable psu would fry new system

Here's another build

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/ca/p/o50T
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/ca/p/o50T/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/ca/p/o50T/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD A10-5800K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor ($119.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Motherboard: ASRock FM2A55M-DGS Micro ATX FM2 Motherboard ($54.99 @ Canada Computers)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($43.00 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ NCIX)
Case: Thermaltake VL80001W2Z ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.96 @ DirectCanada)
Power Supply: Antec Basiq 350W ATX12V Power Supply ($31.99 @ Computer Valley)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS224-06 DVD/CD Writer ($24.99 @ Canada Computers)
Total: $364.91
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-11-17 15:11 EST-0500)
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November 17, 2012 6:18:41 PM

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/ca/p/o52r
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/ca/p/o52r/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/ca/p/o52r/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Pentium G850 2.9GHz Dual-Core Processor ($67.99 @ Computer Valley)
Motherboard: MSI H61M-P31 (G3) Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($54.99 @ NCIX)
Memory: G.Skill NS 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($19.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 650 1GB Video Card ($94.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($34.99 @ NCIX)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 450W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($39.99 @ NCIX)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($18.79 @ DirectCanada)
Total: $381.72
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)


http://pcpartpicker.com/ca/p/o52r

If you want to play games, the 650 gtx is like 3 time more powerful than amd apu with a decent intel cpu.
I mean
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November 18, 2012 2:47:00 PM

thank you all for the replies !!
I just found out that the first mobo doesnt even support this CPU -.- so i found a new one that does ... heres my new list ...
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($79.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Motherboard: ASRock 880GM-LE FX Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($79.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($20.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ NCIX)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($44.99 @ NCIX)
Power Supply: PC Power & Cooling Silencer MK III 400W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($40.42 @ DirectCanada)
Total: $326.37

I decided that i will just use the old dvd burner so took that off the list ..
As for the cpu ... i will be sticking with this one and will be using the onboard graphics its a AMD Radeon HD 4250 graphics so thats good enough since i wont be gaming....just watching blu ray 1080p videos..
I don't understand why switch to cheaper quality parts when i can get high quality parts ?? That will still fit within my budget so i left the psu and the case the same..
And @djangoringo very nice build but i really want the AMD Phenom II x4 965BE so cant swtich the cpu but very nice !
Anyhow how is this new build that i made ??
Thanks again !! : D
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November 18, 2012 3:01:56 PM

Even for bluray videos that build is not that good if you play with software like madvr + lavfilters or 3d bluray that onboard really sucks only the cpu holds, i'd go for the build AMD A10-5800K or the intel one it is more balanced, you wont be needing that case with a micro atx board and no gfx card or need of cooling.

See this : http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-cpu-review-o...
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November 18, 2012 3:10:22 PM

Your saying i won't be able to watch 1080p videos via .mkv, .mp4(using vlc, mpcc with codecs), or even youtube ... with this build ??
I might use the case again later on for a future upgrade so i really want this case. Plus $45 ... why not ?
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November 18, 2012 3:24:22 PM

CPU: AMD A4-5300 3.4GHz Dual-Core Processor ($49.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: MSI FM2-A55M-E33 Micro ATX FM2 Motherboard ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Rosewill FBM-02 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Logisys 480W ATX12V Power Supply ($13.98 @ Outlet PC)
Optical Drive: Sony AD-7280S-0B DVD/CD Writer ($18.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $217.92

Just over half your budget. When that PC starts getting outdated you can easily upgrade it by getting a better APU or getting a discrete GPU.

Also, you just asked if you could play 1080p videos, yet you said you're monitor resolution is 1280x1024. Use the money you would save with the build above and get a better monitor.
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November 18, 2012 3:34:25 PM

Pingypoker said:
CPU: AMD A4-5300 3.4GHz Dual-Core Processor ($49.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: MSI FM2-A55M-E33 Micro ATX FM2 Motherboard ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Rosewill FBM-02 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Logisys 480W ATX12V Power Supply ($13.98 @ Outlet PC)
Optical Drive: Sony AD-7280S-0B DVD/CD Writer ($18.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $217.92

Just over half your budget. When that PC starts getting outdated you can easily upgrade it by getting a better APU or getting a discrete GPU.

Also, you just asked if you could play 1080p videos, yet you said you're monitor resolution is 1280x1024. Use the money you would save with the build above and get a better monitor.


If i get a new apu i would have to get a mobo that fits it as well since my pc is 7yrs old ... socket 939.. lol ...
Okay my monitor cant go up to 1080p but it can do 720p which is good enough ...
Are you saying if i just buy a discrete GPU i can watch 720p videos no problem ??
Right now i have a AMD Athlon 64 X2 3500+ I heard i needed a better cpu to watch HD quality videos..without lag of course
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November 18, 2012 3:56:09 PM

I was saying that when the PC I showed you gets old, you could just get a newer APU. You can watch 720p videos perfectly fine with the APU I showed you. If you aren't going to be gaming, there is no reason to get a discrete GPU.
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November 18, 2012 4:19:27 PM

okay but what about the build i currently have

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($79.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Motherboard: ASRock 880GM-LE FX Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($79.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($20.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ NCIX)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($44.99 @ NCIX)
Power Supply: PC Power & Cooling Silencer MK III 400W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($40.42 @ DirectCanada)
Total: $326.37

The mobo has a integrated AMD Radeon HD 4250 isn't that good enough to just watch 720p videos ?? (vlc player, mpcc, w/codecs) and of course HD youtube videos ...
I just really like the AMD Phenom II X4 965 BE it sounds so cool lol
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November 18, 2012 4:35:21 PM

The integrated graphics on the APU I showed you are much better than the integrated graphics on the motherboard you want.

"I just really like the AMD Phenom II X4 965 BE it sounds so cool lol"

Please, don't base your opinions off of whether or not something sounds cool or not. That processor is overkill for what you are doing, so save yourself $100 and get the build I showed you.
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November 18, 2012 4:46:09 PM

i'd rather go with a better mobo and a quad core apu

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/ca/p/ocEQ
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/ca/p/ocEQ/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/ca/p/ocEQ/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD A10-5800K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor ($119.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Motherboard: ASRock FM2A75 Pro4-M Micro ATX FM2 Motherboard ($79.99 @ Canada Computers)
Memory: Kingston 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($29.49 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($34.99 @ NCIX)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 450W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($39.99 @ NCIX)
Optical Drive: Sony AD-7280S-0B DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Canada Computers)
Total: $372.43
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
Estimated Wattage: 184W

or this

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/ca/p/ocJQ
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/ca/p/ocJQ/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/ca/p/ocJQ/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i3-3225 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor ($129.99 @ NCIX)
Motherboard: Asus P8H77-M/CSM Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($101.89 @ DirectCanada)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($20.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($34.99 @ NCIX)
Power Supply: Antec Basiq 350W ATX12V Power Supply ($31.99 @ Computer Valley)
Optical Drive: Sony AD-7280S-0B DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Canada Computers)
Total: $387.83
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
Estimated Wattage: 139W
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November 18, 2012 5:17:51 PM

okay @DjangoRingo you win lol ill go with one of those 2 thank you everyone !!!
First thing came to mind was the AMD A10-5800K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor after reading Pingypoker post about "dont base on what sounds cool or what not." lmfaooo
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November 18, 2012 5:17:59 PM

Best answer selected by nikebron.
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