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Thinking of Upgrading to a 7870-Want Advice

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September 21, 2012 10:46:36 PM

Here are my current system specs:

Mainboard : Gigabyte Z68XP-UD4
Processor : Intel Core i5 2500K
Physical Memory : 16GB Kingstong
Video Card : EVGA GTX 550 Ti(2gb VRAM)
Hard Disk(OS Install) : OCZ-VERTEX SATA2 Device (256GB)
Hard Disk(Storage) : Samsung SATA2 (1000GB)
Hard Disk(FRAPS) : Samsung SATA2 (250GB)
Monitor 1 : ViewSonic 22"(1680x1050)
Monitor 2 : Samsung SynMaster 914v 19" (1280x1024)
Operating System : Windows 7 Enterprise (64-bit)
Power Supply : Corsair 700w "Gaming" Series
Case : COOLER MASTER HAF 922

Right now I'm leaning towards a MSI HAWK 7870, it's around $250 on Newegg, now is this a worthwhile choice? I play many games from Indie, FPS, RPG, and a couple MMO's here and there, I might upgrade to a 1920x1080 display down the road. Right now my Viewsonic is my main gaming monitor and the Samsung is for chat/video on the side when playing games in full screen.

So for the $250 is it worth it? I know going from a 550ti to a 7870 will be a huge improvement but would you recommend going for a 7950 instead? Or a 660ti? I don't care for PhysX.

I've been seeing benchmarks on Anandtech going from the 550ti to the 7870 and also the 7870 vs. the 660ti but it looks rigged to me, like in Portal 2, Total War Shogun and BF3, the 7870 has lower performance than the 660ti in those games but from what I know, that shouldn't be the case, especially since they are using MSAA and SSAA, the 660ti should be taxed more or the 7870 should perform better because of the bigger memory bandwidth, right?

And does anybody have a benchmark link to the MSI HAWK 7870? I can't seem to find a review on this card specifically for temps and performance.
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September 22, 2012 12:25:00 AM

echondo said:
MSi HD 7870 "Hawk"


echondo said:
Is this a worthwhile choice?


It's the BEST choice. Because that is THE best version of HD 7870 made so far, there is no better HD 7870 out there. I highly recommend getting this particular one and no other.

You don't really need HD 7950 or 660Ti for the games that you've mentioned, MSi's HD 7870 "Hawk" would run almost everything (OR everything. It mainly depends on the particular set of graphical settings of each game, and how good the game was optimized) on maximal maximums with 58~60 FPS at 1920x1080 resolution, and even at 1920x1200.
Maybe it won't be enough only for Total War Shogun 2, but that particular one heavily depends on your processor rather than on your video card, so maybe FPS will drop just a tiny little bit, but nothing so low that it would be unplayable (I'd say, the FPS would be around 45~50 at the maximal maximums, but nothing like 30 or lower).

About the performance of MSi's HD 7870 "Hawk", first look at this and then this.
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September 22, 2012 12:31:16 AM

master_chen said:
It's the BEST choice. Because that is THE best version of HD 7870 made so far, there is no better HD 7870 out there. I highly recommend getting this particular one and no other.

You don't really need HD 7950 or 660Ti, MSi's HD 7870 "Hawk" would run almost everything (OR everything. It mainly depends on the particular set of graphical settings of each game, and how good the game was optimized) on maximal maximums within 55~60 FPS at 1920x1080 resolution, and even at 1920x1200.

About the performance of MSi's HD 7870 "Hawk", first look at this and then this.

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September 22, 2012 5:06:30 AM

master_chen said:
It's the BEST choice. Because that is THE best version of HD 7870 made so far, there is no better HD 7870 out there. I highly recommend getting this particular one and no other.


I know it's the best out of the 7870 line up(and if there was a 7950 HAWK edition card then this discussion wouldn't even occur).

master_chen said:

About the performance of MSi's HD 7870 "Hawk", first look at this and then this.


Not exactly what I was asking, I'm asking for actual benchmarks with the 7870 HAWK, and HWcompare isn't the best site for searching for a comparison, I'm looking for an actual benchmark on the card that shows performance, temperature, and max/avg. wattage draw with all the different games that is tested.

HWcompare isn't saying anything except listing the wattage(which is just the max TDP), and gives some simplistic comparisons with texel/pixel rate without any detail whatsoever.

But thanks for the explanation of the Total War game being more CPU dependent, I play Source games, BF3, Crysis, Guild Wars 2, etc. And some older games like the original Fallout series, and this rig might be Linux based in a few months.

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I have an MSI 7850 and love it. Super quiet, overclockable and fast enough for all of my games at 1080p. The 7870 is even better. I say go for it. As for whether its better than Nvidia, thats a toss up. Some games are, some aren't. They optimize games to suit the architectures of AMD or Nvidia.


Thank you very much for the input, really do appreciate a personal experience with MSI products, I plan on overclocking the crap out of the HAWK as well. ;) 


Now, can anyone find a benchmark of this card? I know it isn't old but it isn't brand spanking new by any means, so I'm very surprised I can't find anything on Tom's Hardware itself for an article pertaining to the HAWK series as it is very overclockable, unlike those damn ASUS cards...
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September 22, 2012 5:14:54 AM

The price to performance ratio of that card is amazing. If you overclock it, you can get up to 30% more performance out of it. It can rival top end cards (when they're not overclocked).
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September 22, 2012 8:16:44 AM

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