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November 17, 2012 7:17:45 PM

Link if it works: https://secure.newegg.com/WishList/MySavedWishDetail.as...
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Case : Corsair Graphite Series 600T CC600TM Mid-Tower Gaming case

Motherboard: ASUS M5A99FX PRO R2.0 AM3+ AMD 990FX SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard with UEFI BIOS

CPU: AMD FX-8320 Vishera 3.5GHz (4.0GHz Turbo) Socket AM3+ 125W Eight-Core Desktop Processor

Video Card:GIGABYTE GV-R787OC-2GD Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support

Hard Drive:SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 ST1000DM005/HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

SSD:SAMSUNG 830 Series MZ-7PC128N/AM 2.5" 128GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) Notebook Upgrade Kit

RAM:CORSAIR Vengeance LP 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CML16GX3M2A1600C10

Power Supply: COOLER MASTER Silent Pro RSA00-AMBAJ3-US 1000W ATX12V v2.3 / EPS12V v2.92 SLI Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active ...

Cooling: COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO RR-212E-20PK-R2 Continuous Direct Contact 120mm Sleeve CPU Cooler

DVD/Blu-Ray:ASUS Black Blu-ray Drive SATA Model BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS - OEM

Monitor: ASUS VH236H Black 23" Full HD Widescreen LCD Monitor w/ Speakers

Keyboard: LITE-ON SK-1788/BS 2-Tone PS/2 Wired Standard Keyboard

I think that's everything, all advice and recommendations are greatly appreciated I'm a bit of a noob.
November 17, 2012 7:29:51 PM

doesnt work. either way a intel system performs better so id get that

if you are not building a budget rendering station, the fx 8320 doesnt make sense. nor does the 600t or the 16gb of ram

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/o5AN
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November 17, 2012 7:49:47 PM

TheBigTroll said:
doesnt work. either way a intel system performs better so id get that

if you are not building a budget rendering station, the fx 8320 doesnt make sense. nor does the 600t or the 16gb of ram

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/o5AN


just trying to build a gamming pc that can play bf3 skyrim and gta 4 at max settings with at least 40fps for under $1500 thought the difference in price was worth going with AMD over intel.
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November 17, 2012 8:10:33 PM

well if you have a budget of that, check this out :


PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/o5Uj
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/o5Uj/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/o5Uj/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($169.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($26.29 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($124.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 830 Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($117.96 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 670 4GB Video Card ($419.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($53.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($15.98 @ Outlet PC)
Monitor: Asus VE278Q 27.0" Monitor ($297.00 @ B&H)
Total: $1365.66

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/o5Uj

Will run those games @ 1080p 60fps, plus you get a 27" screen.
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November 17, 2012 8:20:05 PM

Best answer selected by Man_Bear_PiG_402.
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November 17, 2012 8:21:09 PM

djangoringo said:
well if you have a budget of that, check this out :


PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/o5Uj
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/o5Uj/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/o5Uj/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($169.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($26.29 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($124.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 830 Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($117.96 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 670 4GB Video Card ($419.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($53.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($15.98 @ Outlet PC)
Monitor: Asus VE278Q 27.0" Monitor ($297.00 @ B&H)
Total: $1365.66

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/o5Uj

Will run those games @ 1080p 60fps, plus you get a 27" screen.

Thanks bro, will consider this build that video card is a BEAST!!
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November 17, 2012 9:11:26 PM

and no that video card is not a beast if it is loud and will look ugly when the power plugs are in the middle of the card
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November 17, 2012 9:11:56 PM

djangoringo said:
well if you have a budget of that, check this out :


PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/o5Uj
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/o5Uj/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/o5Uj/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($169.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($26.29 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($124.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 830 Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($117.96 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 670 4GB Video Card ($419.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($53.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($15.98 @ Outlet PC)
Monitor: Asus VE278Q 27.0" Monitor ($297.00 @ B&H)
Total: $1365.66


Will run those games @ 1080p 60fps, plus you get a 27" screen.


-cheaper and better ram
-picked the wrong 830
-670s are not a good value. and evga is no better than any other maker. you are better off with a 7970 as they perform better
-why use a cheap case?
-whats the point of a 27 inch screen if its 1080p?
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November 17, 2012 9:27:23 PM

Your telling me that 670 4 gb ftw is worse than the 7970 ghz ha...bigtroll indeed.
whats the point of 27" 1080p ? some might want a bigger monitor...what the point of 32", 37", etc if its only 1080? great logic...
the ram that i recommended is better than what you'd recommend.
Cheap case but very effective and the best at its price.
The ssd is this one : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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November 17, 2012 9:36:25 PM

heres a comparison.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/618?vs=598

4gb of vram is useless when its 1080p and if you are going higher, get a 7970. more bandwidth

ftw is just a 680 cooler on a 670. big deal. still can easily get coil whine due to reference components. when you compare a ftw to a gigabyte windforce like mine, you see a 10c difference. my 670 runs at 1100mhz and it never reaches above 55c from 10 hrs of folding@home. my ambient is 22c

if intel and amd gets patriot to make ram for them instead of getting corsair to make them, what makes corsair better?

still the wrong one bro. or in other words the wrong sku
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0077CR60Q/?tag=pcpapi-20
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November 17, 2012 9:42:11 PM

djangoringo said:
Your telling me that 670 4 gb ftw is worse than the 7970 ghz ha...bigtroll indeed.
whats the point of 27" 1080p ? some might want a bigger monitor...what the point of 32", 37", etc if its only 1080? great logic...
the ram that i recommended is better than what you'd recommend.
Cheap case but very effective and the best at its price.
The ssd is this one : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

TheBigTroll is right! The 7970 WILL beat a 670 and 1080 sucks! For this level of gaming you want, AT LEAST, 1920x1200.
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November 17, 2012 9:44:38 PM

1080p is great. just that at 27 inches its less than great

and ty cobra5000
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November 17, 2012 9:49:42 PM

TheBigTroll said:
1080p is great. just that at 27 inches its less than great

and ty cobra5000

You seem to know a great deal about building a pc do you think you could give me a part list that could run the games i listed at 60fps or higher with the first case i posted, for some reason i have fallen in love with that case. Much thanks for the advice
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November 17, 2012 10:05:20 PM

Well the 27" was within the budget, it couldn't get the 600$ monitors besides he can opt for a 24" for 199$ vs 299$ its the same model.

Again the 670 gtx i think it will be better and at the best oc for $419.99 , the 7970 ghz
are more expensive.

Plus facts :
http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph6025/47478.png
http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph6025/47483.png
http://media.bestofmicro.com/J/K/360992/original/CODBO2...

and thats with the normal 670 gtx...
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November 17, 2012 10:08:20 PM

meh the case isnt that great anyways. especially the price for what it does.

here. if you play borderlands 2, id get a good gtx 670 like a msi power edition or the gigabyte windforce gtx 670. evga is out of the question

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/o6Tx
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November 17, 2012 10:12:15 PM

"Well the 27" was within the budget": well so is a 7970 ghz or any other better gtx 670

overclocking with a stock cooler? nice try bro.

benchmark link
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/618?vs=598

also note that amd comes with 3 free games and they are actually good games. you cant beat the value
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November 17, 2012 10:28:01 PM

I will not discuss more of this, anyway i was only trying to help the guy by doing a honest unbiased opinion of the parts.
Also the case is really great has the space that he will need, cooling only a troll would say that case is crap see the user reviews...

Anyway here is a sample of the evga :
http://www.guru3d.com/miraserver/images/2012/gtx670-evg...

I mean the 7970 is also great but in real world gaming 670 is better.

So i just updated the list and it is corrected.


PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/o711
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/o711/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/o711/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($169.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($26.29 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($124.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial M4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 670 4GB Video Card ($419.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($53.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($15.98 @ Outlet PC)
Monitor: Asus VS248H-P 24.0" Monitor ($179.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1230.68
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/o711
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November 17, 2012 10:34:07 PM

Cooler Master HAF 912 is a great case for its price no need for speeding much, oh i almost forgotten...the 670 is way more less wattage demanding than the 7970 i think 80w or 100w under load more.
Cheers.
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November 17, 2012 10:35:32 PM

there is still not much of a reason to go beyond 21.5 for me unless its IPS

if you used a fractal case, it would shame most 100 dollar cases out there. did you see their shotgun video? it uses birdshot but the panel stood 10 blasts on about the same area

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_SNhi7-UWQ
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November 17, 2012 10:42:03 PM

I feel the argument with the 670 and the 7970 is a little unfair I mean you are talking about the best single chip from amd versus the 2nd best from nvidia. Yes the price lands the 7970 ahead in price/performance as the 7970 isn't really all that much more expensive. You can get a reference 7970 for around 389-600 dollars where as the 670 can go between 369-420. I think it really comes down to personal preference for example I play games that really utilize physx I play games like batman AA, AC and Borderlands 2 so I tend to like that a bit more I also kind of prefer the driver delivery of the nvidia side of things not to say that amd does a poor job with that. And with drivers amd and nvidia are switching sides all the time with who is better. I think its amazing that the 670 can even keep pace with the 7970 given the faster specs in some areas and the extra gig in ram normally 3 versus 2. There isn't a clear cut winner. You can get a baseline 680 for around 460 now. The consumer is going to make a choice as to what side they want to go I don't think there is a right or wrong answer but there are a couple of things to keep in mind.

AMD: Does a better job with multi monitor support. Also the 7970 versus the 670 the 7970 because of ram will do better with higher resolutions.
Nvidia: Does a better job handling 3D Surround. People say drivers as well but both companies have there shortcomings with drivers. And physx I have to say there is a eye candy difference in the games i play that use it however it is quite gimmicky shrugs still cool though.
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November 17, 2012 10:43:08 PM

TheBigTroll said:
there is still not much of a reason to go beyond 21.5 for me unless its IPS

if you used a fractal case, it would shame most 100 dollar cases out there. did you see their shotgun video? it uses birdshot but the panel stood 10 blasts on about the same area

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_SNhi7-UWQ

I guess its a good thing that I don't plan on shooting my computer with a shotgun, lol
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November 17, 2012 10:50:28 PM

its a test of quality, not how bulletproof your case is. if it was more real world, it would be someone knocking over your rig or when you rage and kick your case
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