Body colours of Canon 350D

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> I've noticed that the "painted silver" colour
> on plastic-bodied cameras tends to wear out,
> leaving whatever is under it to show through.
> Does anyone know if the black colour you can
> choose is solid black plastic, or some kind
> of paint covering?

It's solid, just like the black 300D was.

(My 350D is sitting right next to me....)

steve

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In article <d0vbn4$c0f$1@news6.svr.pol.co.uk>, Tumbleweed
<Shovels@five.paces> wrote:

> Forgive a wry smile!
> Back in the days when I earned a living with my cameras the "standard"
> finish on bodies was a matt chrome plate.
> It was durable, but too visible.
> So "Pro" cameras started to appear in satin black enamel.
> These were less visible, but prone to scratching and wear.
> I used to wear my battered bodies with pride, the brass showing through on
> the strap eyelets, the prism edges and baseplate being proof that my cameras
> earned their keep!
> Only rookies had shiny pristine bodies. (Both camera body and their own!)

That's right. I remember some of my news buddies that had Nikon Fs with
that huge old prism who were proud to have the brass showing through.

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In article <E6HYd.27492$qn2.5609853@twister.nyc.rr.com>,
Chin Jin Phua <cphua@nyc.rr.com> wrote:

> Do you think it is worth $999 to
> get the 350D vs the 300D (about $650 in some places)?

Yes. Absolutely.

It's a computer, my friend. Yeah, it takes pictures, but that's just a side
effect. <grin>

Just like with a computer purchase, to ensure the greatest longevity of your
purchase, you should buy as [latest, greatest, fastest, largest whatever] that
you can possibly afford.

Nevermind the extra 2MP. The new DigiReb has Canon's new image processor and
USB 2.0 output. These two features alone make the new camera worth selecting
over its predecessor.

Consider that, during the life of your camera body, you will appreciate
company support (firmware updates, etc) and spending a LOT of time downloading
images from the camera. (Yeah, yeah, get a card reader...)

If nothing else, with the new DigIc II image processor, I'm sure the new
camera is noticeably FASTER in actual use than the old model.

Good luck!

JR

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On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 11:18:35 -0700, "Steve Wolfe" <unt@codon.com>
wrote:

>> I've noticed that the "painted silver" colour
>> on plastic-bodied cameras tends to wear out,
>> leaving whatever is under it to show through.
>> Does anyone know if the black colour you can
>> choose is solid black plastic, or some kind
>> of paint covering?
>
> It's solid, just like the black 300D was.
>
> (My 350D is sitting right next to me....)
>
>steve
>

Good! I was hoping that was the case.
Thanks!
-Rich

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> Hey, since you seem to have both cameras. Do you think it is worth $999 to
> get the 350D vs the 300D (about $650 in some places)? are there any
> compelling reason to go for the latest other than the extra 2MP and new
> firmware for a guy who had only owned a Powershot G1 and thinking of
moving
> into DSLR?

I actually *had* the 300D - for a little under two weeks, and I had
borrowed one for a while before that. I found out the 350D was coming, and
returned the 300D for refund (BOY, was I glad I kept all the little baggies
and papers!), and waited until the 350D came out. I was climbing out of my
skin for three months. = )

I am soooo glad that I did. The extra 2 mp are just a bonus, the REAL
pleasures (at least for me) are:

1. MUCH faster startup time.
2. MUCH faster burst shooting.
3. AI-focus & AI-servo focus modes.
4. Faster card-writing rate.

In fact, this morning I went out back and got some fairly good action
shots of one of my dogs with little effort because of 2 & 3. I just put it
in "sports" mode, set the ISO to 100 (lots of good morning sunlight!), stuck
my 28-105 f/2.8 lens on it, and as soon as she'd get going, I'd do the
12-shot burst. (see note 1.) They came out pretty good for a rank amateur
like myself.

So... as to your question of which you should buy: Only you can decide.
= ) The extra money for the 350D was worth it to me because the lack of
features 1, 2, and 3 was my biggest let-down with the Rebel. If those
features are important to you, then the 350D is really where you want to be.
If those features really aren't that important to you - and money is tight -
then the 300D would be much more attractive.

My opinion of the 350D is that it is a force to be reckoned with. Sure,
it's not a 1Ds Mk II - but for the price, it is a *lot* of camera. While
I'm not an industry expert, I really believe that not only will other
companies have to really re-work their product offerings and pricing because
of the 350D, I really think that Canon might have to rework its own
offerings/pricing one (or maybe two) levels up from the 350D.

Incidentally, one of the largest reasons I decided to go with a dSLR in
the first place was the fact that digital noise is so annoying to me that
it's near physical pain for me to look at. I shot some pics at ISO 1600
last night, and while you can see noise in the pics if you look for it, it's
much lower than I had expected. In fact, it's pretty darn good.

(Note 1) I think that the buffer actually holds 8 or 9 shots - but because
the camera starts writing to the card as soon as you start taking pictures,
by the time you've taken 8 or 9, a few have already been written to the
card, giving you a few more shots until the buffer runs out. Because of
that, the speed of your card affects the number of burst shots. My card
isn't one of the 40x or 80x speed demons, someone with one of those might
get 14 or 15 shots in the burst. A large card is a big bonus if you're
going to use the burst mode! While the dogs were wrestling, I blew through
150 shots before I even realized it. That was when I realized that getting
a 2-gig card was an even better move than I had originally thought. = ) (at
the price I got the card for, there was no way that I'd have passed it up,
even for a faster model.)

As a final note, get the kit lens with it. It may not be the greatest
lens in the world, but it is cheap, and getting any other lens that goes
that wide will be pretty expensive. With the 1.6 crop factor, you need a
significantly wider lens for indoor shots. The 28mm minimum focal length on
my zoom lens doesn't work well indoors except for pretty large rooms, I find
myself grabbing the kit lens every time, and using my external flash to
light things up.

steve

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Thanks for the reply and info. I had a look at the 350D at B&H today. The
kit lens looks kinda cheap and from the limited time I had with it, seems
pretty limited in terms of range. I am thinking of going with the 17-85 IS
USM for another $400, is the money worth it? Or will I regret later?


Steve Wolfe wrote:

>> Hey, since you seem to have both cameras. Do you think it is worth $999
>> to get the 350D vs the 300D (about $650 in some places)? are there any
>> compelling reason to go for the latest other than the extra 2MP and new
>> firmware for a guy who had only owned a Powershot G1 and thinking of
> moving
>> into DSLR?
>
> I actually *had* the 300D - for a little under two weeks, and I had
> borrowed one for a while before that. I found out the 350D was coming,
> and returned the 300D for refund (BOY, was I glad I kept all the little
> baggies
> and papers!), and waited until the 350D came out. I was climbing out of
> my skin for three months. = )
>
> I am soooo glad that I did. The extra 2 mp are just a bonus, the REAL
> pleasures (at least for me) are:
>
> 1. MUCH faster startup time.
> 2. MUCH faster burst shooting.
> 3. AI-focus & AI-servo focus modes.
> 4. Faster card-writing rate.
>
> In fact, this morning I went out back and got some fairly good action
> shots of one of my dogs with little effort because of 2 & 3. I just put
> it in "sports" mode, set the ISO to 100 (lots of good morning sunlight!),
> stuck my 28-105 f/2.8 lens on it, and as soon as she'd get going, I'd do
> the
> 12-shot burst. (see note 1.) They came out pretty good for a rank
> amateur like myself.
>
> So... as to your question of which you should buy: Only you can decide.
> = ) The extra money for the 350D was worth it to me because the lack of
> features 1, 2, and 3 was my biggest let-down with the Rebel. If those
> features are important to you, then the 350D is really where you want to
> be. If those features really aren't that important to you - and money is
> tight - then the 300D would be much more attractive.
>
> My opinion of the 350D is that it is a force to be reckoned with. Sure,
> it's not a 1Ds Mk II - but for the price, it is a *lot* of camera. While
> I'm not an industry expert, I really believe that not only will other
> companies have to really re-work their product offerings and pricing
> because of the 350D, I really think that Canon might have to rework its
> own offerings/pricing one (or maybe two) levels up from the 350D.
>
> Incidentally, one of the largest reasons I decided to go with a dSLR in
> the first place was the fact that digital noise is so annoying to me that
> it's near physical pain for me to look at. I shot some pics at ISO 1600
> last night, and while you can see noise in the pics if you look for it,
> it's
> much lower than I had expected. In fact, it's pretty darn good.
>
> (Note 1) I think that the buffer actually holds 8 or 9 shots - but
> because the camera starts writing to the card as soon as you start taking
> pictures, by the time you've taken 8 or 9, a few have already been written
> to the
> card, giving you a few more shots until the buffer runs out. Because of
> that, the speed of your card affects the number of burst shots. My card
> isn't one of the 40x or 80x speed demons, someone with one of those might
> get 14 or 15 shots in the burst. A large card is a big bonus if you're
> going to use the burst mode! While the dogs were wrestling, I blew
> through
> 150 shots before I even realized it. That was when I realized that
> getting
> a 2-gig card was an even better move than I had originally thought. = )
> (at the price I got the card for, there was no way that I'd have passed it
> up, even for a faster model.)
>
> As a final note, get the kit lens with it. It may not be the greatest
> lens in the world, but it is cheap, and getting any other lens that goes
> that wide will be pretty expensive. With the 1.6 crop factor, you need a
> significantly wider lens for indoor shots. The 28mm minimum focal length
> on my zoom lens doesn't work well indoors except for pretty large rooms, I
> find myself grabbing the kit lens every time, and using my external flash
> to light things up.
>
> steve