Upgrading my 9800gt EVGA 1gb ddr3

seekario

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Hi I bought a few years ago , my gateway fx4710-ub003a ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883113075 )
But last year I had to buy a new graphic card the one mentioned in the title, 9800GT EVGA 1GB DDR3.
And now Its holding me back in a few games , like D3 and others.
Which sometimes lags,nothing too major.
But I wanna be ready for future games.
So plz let me know any cards I should be looking , and I heard I have to look for a new power supply( so plz give more info about that)

PD: I also wanna upgrade my Ram .
Because I have 6 and I don't fell its enough.
Y have 4 ports, 2 with 2 gb , and other 2 with 1, I was thinking on getting 2 with 2gb instead of the 1gbs that I have, DDR2?
Thanks for your time!!
 

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Hello my friend,
since i don't have any idea about your budget,i will be listing the best cards for the money:
low end cards (5670 hd or 6670 hd) both are equal to your 9800 gt.
mid end cards (6850 hd or 460 gtx)
high end cards (6950 hd or 660 ti gtx)
as for the power supply you should get a well-known brand and more than 600 watt.
6 gb ram is enough for gaming these days.
 

4745454b

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You don't need 600W.

I'd avoid all of the GT640, 6670, 5750, etc cards. They are barely faster then what you have now. 6850 at least. (GTX460 ok, GTX550TI is a no.)

If your ram is running dual channel then don't worry about it. You can download CPUz to see. Otherwise getting 2x4GBs of ram is a good idea.
 

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Oh boy, you opened up a can of worms...

Yes, it is most likely that you will need to upgrade a power supply. However, the previous poster was a little over zealous. Any high quality PSU manufacturer (seasonic, antec, corsair) that makes a 450w PSU or above will suffice for a single card setup.

However, if you do not want to buy/cannot afford/uncomfortable upgrading your power supply, the only sure bet that you will be able to put into your rig is a Radeon HD 7750. It will add considerable horsepower, compared to your 9800 GT, without pulling very much power. While this card will not scale particularly well to newer AAA titles, it is really the only option I can recommend without more information on the power supply.

I am not certain, but I believe that your processor supports DDR3 RAM, in which case, that is as easy as finding a 2x4gb set that is cheap, and plugging it into your motherboard. It may be possible that you will have to update the bios to make this work. That DDR2 is rather obsolete these days....

Finally, I wouldn't go too overkill on a new gpu, unless you are willing to upgrade your processor. You could spend $400 dollars on a GPU, and not get the performance you want, due to bottlenecks from the processor.
 

seekario

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Well right now I wanna start with the ram and the Graphic card, so I can see an improvement.
And I don't think a power supply will cost that much right?
and If I changed the power supply what graphic card would u recommend to no go overboard in the budget?( My budget its not fixed yet , so I want ideas)
And about the RAM , Well I just checked the webpage crucial.com , that some guys recommended and I only see in the recommended Ram DDR2, http://www.crucial.com/store/listparts.aspx?model=FX4710-UB003A&Cat=RAM
So idk if I can put DDR3 in my PC, Which will be the ideal.

PD: Thanks so much for the fast answers!!!
 

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Well right now I wanna start with the ram and the Graphic card, so I can see an improvement.
And I don't think a power supply will cost that much right?
and If I changed the power supply what graphic card would u recommend to no go overboard in the budget?( My budget its not fixed yet , so I want ideas)
And about the RAM , Well I just checked the webpage crucial.com , that some guys recommended and I only see in the recommended Ram DDR2, http://www.crucial.com/store/listp [...] 3A&Cat=RAM
So idk if I can put DDR3 in my PC, Which will be the ideal.

PD: Thanks so much for the fast answers!!!


i looked online, your motherboard and cpu both support ddr3. However, you have 4 free slots, and can only support 8gb. So either buy a 2x4gb set, or a 4x2gb set of ddr3, whichever is cheaper. On a side note, what version of windows are you running? x86 or 64 bit?

As far as power supplies go, if you are REALLY trying to save a buck, I would use this one

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139027

Although this one is better, and it is what most users on this forum would suggest for an entry level build.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139020

For graphics cards, its a tough call. For a higher end build, its very difficult to beat the value of the radeon HD 7850 or 7870 cards. But plan on putting yourself back anywhere between 150-200$.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150617

Again, for less horsepower, and money, and without needing to change your power supply, you can put in a 7750 for around 80$.

Any other price points, consult this link: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-card-review,3107.html



Potentially useful links (Sorry for so damn many links)

https://www.serversupply.com/GATEWAY/MOTHERBOARD/DESKTOP%20BOARD/FX%20SERIES/MB.G2709.002.htm

http://www.ascendtech.us/core-2-quad-q9300-ddr3-computer-system_i_dtpcddr3q930001.aspx
 

seekario

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Thanks you so much!!!
Right now I have Windows 7 64 bits.
Now I have a better view of what to expect.
I have a limited budget of 200 to 300 limit ( for the graphic card and power supply)
For the ram I have no clue of prices, I'll look around.
But thanks, any other graphic card that are worth it, even if its a lil outside my budget I can consider if worth it :D
Thanks!

 

abraham_mammogram

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Keep in mind that power supplies, if you buy a good one (corsair, antec, seasonic), tend to last a long time, 5+ years. However, graphics cards tend to become obsolete within a few years. In the long run, you will be doing yourself a favor by buying a nicer power supply, because it can easily be carried over to future builds. I know that it fights with the instant gratification that a better graphics card would provide, but once again, you will be saving money in the future.
 
Don't bother with anything less than a 7750 if you are seeking a meaningful upgrade over your 1gb 9800gt. I own two already and in sli while they already come close to what a GTX460/560 SE would achieve.

Absolutely avoid going with Kepler on the low end, yes they use little power but for the same price you can get a better card from AMD.
 

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Most people I know avoid the 1GB model of that card as the 2GB model isn't much more. On the bottom of that page there is a HIS 2GB model for $200. Only $20 more then your card, $30 if you get the rebate. Some games do like to have lots of ram and its not really that much more. Get the 1GB if you can't afford the 2GB as it will be a big improvement over the 9800GT.
 

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I recommended that one, strictly following the criteria that is was the cheapest 7850 I could find at the time. Personally, I wouldn't purchase a HIS, I haven't heard the best about their hardware, but that could certainly be argued for all hardware manufacturers.

I agree about the the memory size. I would recommend 2 gb with a 256 or higher memory bus, if you plan to game at 1920x1080 or higher resolution with MSAA turned up past 2x.
 

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thats what all of them cost, i would get either evga,gigabyte, or msi from newegg or ncix instead