Upgraded from GTX460 to GTX660

[SirKhairin]

Lemme list out the specs of my PC

Operating System : Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 32-bit SP1

CPU : Intel Core i7 2600 @ 3.40GHz
Sandy Bridge 32nm Technology

RAM : 4.00 GB Single-Channel DDR3 @ 665MHz (9-9-9-24)

Motherboard : Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. P61A-D3 (Intel Core i7-2600 CPU @ 3.40GHz)

Graphics : 1023MB GeForce GTX 460 (Gigabyte)

So I am upgrading to a GTX660 ASUS. With the help of my uncle, right after we pop the guy in, my PC just wouldn't start, as in the BIOS startup won't even appear and it makes a 3 beeping sound. Putting back the GTX460 makes everything okay again.

We ruled out lack of power supply to the GPU already by disconnecting the power sockets to the HDDs.

I'm postulating that the motherboard might not be compatible with the GPU but that is highly unlikely.

So what do you guys think? I'm at a lost here

 

[dingo07]

What are the specs of your power supply? You can read them off the sticker on it, if you don't know the make or model.

 

[delluser1]

We ruled out lack of power supply to the GPU already by disconnecting the power sockets to the HDDs.

The fact that a GTX660 has a lower power draw than a GTX460 should have been enough to rule out the psu

 

[blazorthon]

The RAM might be a problem. You're trying to use a video card that has 2GiB of VRAM (assuming gthat your model is a 2GB model) in a computer that has only 4GiB of RAM and a 32 bit OS. I think that it should work, but it might be an issue.

 

[SirKhairin]

What are the specs of your power supply? You can read them off the sticker on it, if you don't know the make or model.

Is this what you need?

Input Voltage 110 ~ 115V / 220 ~ 230V
Input Current 8A@115Vac / 6.3A@230Vac

EDIT: Also this is the link to my PSU http://www.coolermaster.com/product.php?product_id=5888

 

[swifty_morgan]

it was what was under the one or two 12v that we needed........ amperage. 32 if that's the right ps you listed. kinda light........ did you plug the 2 power connectors into your video card ?

 

[blazorthon]

Is this what you need?

Input Voltage 110 ~ 115V / 220 ~ 230V
Input Current 8A@115Vac / 6.3A@230Vac

EDIT: Also this is the link to my PSU http://www.coolermaster.com/product.php?product_id=5888

The 12V amperage should be high enough, especially if it works with a GTX 460, but that PSU is not from a very reliable brand and it might actually be the problem in a different way as a result of that.

 

[blazorthon]

it was what was under the one or two 12v that we needed........ amperage. 32 if that's the right ps you listed. kinda light........ did you plug the 2 power connectors into your video card ?

22 amps on the 12V rail would be enough for the GTX 660 Ti so long as the CPU isn't a huge power hog and there aren't other abnormally high power-consumption components. 32 amps should be much more than enough.

 

[delluser1]

Is this what you need?

Input Voltage 110 ~ 115V / 220 ~ 230V
Input Current 8A@115Vac / 6.3A@230Vac

EDIT: Also this is the link to my PSU http://www.coolermaster.com/product.php?product_id=5888

Not a very good psu, but if it runs your GTX460 without a problem there's no way it wouldn't run a lower power card

 

[SirKhairin]

So I think it is safe to say that the PSU do not have any relation to my problem here. Never had this much problem upgrading a GPU before lol

 

[swifty_morgan]

there are people out there that get bad cards. you might want to consider rma-ing........... if you do, put a hidden mark on it so they don't send the same one back. ( magic marker )

 

[SirKhairin]

there are people out there that get bad cards. you might want to consider rma-ing........... if you do, put a hidden mark on it so they don't send the same one back. ( magic marker )

I guess I'll try this

 

[dingo07]

The fact that a GTX660 has a lower power draw than a GTX460 should have been enough to rule out the psu

I would love to see the proof of this, because every review I see has the GTX 660 sucking about 20W more than a 460 while playing a taxing game

because it's actually comparing apples to oranges, they're probably closer to equal power draw

 

[delluser1]

Show us some reviews of the 140 watt rated card using more power than the 160 watt rated card

 

[dingo07]

Show us some reviews of the 140 watt rated card using more power than the 160 watt rated card

you tell me - exactly where you're getting these numbers from???

 

[delluser1]

Didn't think so

 

[dingo07]

Didn't think so

look delloser1 - you're the one stating the cards have a certain power draw - it's a very simple question - show me where you got that information is all

 

[blazorthon]

The reference 660 Ti uses slightly less power than the reference 670. Anyone who says otherwise has no experience with the card. It's nearly identical to the 670 with the same GPU at the same frequencies and the same number of memory chips at the same frequency. The main difference is that one of the memory controllers (and related hardware such as the ROPs that are a part of that memory controller) are disabled and the two extra memory chips are instead controlled by one of the remaining memory controllers (one controller has 1GiB of VRAM and the other two have .5GiB each).

If the PSU is not working with the 660 Ti, then it would have had to degraded greatly since you bought it. It is a mere Cooler Master PSU, so that's entirely possible, but that the card is DOA is more likely.

 

[delluser1]

OK noob-boy
GTX660, 113 watts
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/asus_geforce_gtx_660_directcu_ii_top_review,7.html

GTX460, 154 watts
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/geforce_gtx_460_review_(roundup),13.html

 

[blazorthon]

OK noob-boy
GTX660, 113 watts
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/asus_geforce_gtx_660_directcu_ii_top_review,7.html

GTX460, 154 watts
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/geforce_gtx_460_review_(roundup),13.html

I Mistook 660 Ti for the regular 660 and you missed that, so you're no less noobish than I was for my mistake. Regardless of that, Guru3D's power consumption numbers are useless and their site specifically states several reasons for why that is. Still, yes, maybe the regular 660 should use less power than the 460.

 

[dingo07]

ok... so how can this be explained - http://hardocp.com/article/2012/09/17/asus_geforce_gtx_660_ti_directcu_ii_top_review/10

 

[blazorthon]

ok... so how can this be explained - http://hardocp.com/article/2012/09/17/asus_geforce_gtx_660_ti_directcu_ii_top_review/10

The regular 660 uses much less power than the 660 Ti. It has a much smaller GPU with about 29% fewer cores and a lower clock frequency IIRC.

 

[delluser1]

I Mistook 660 Ti for the regular 660 and you missed that, so you're no less noobish than I was for my mistake. Regardless of that, Guru3D's power consumption numbers are useless and their site specifically states several reasons for why that is. Still, yes, maybe the regular 660 should use less power than the 460.

Wasn't directed at you

 

[delluser1]

ok... so how can this be explained - http://hardocp.com/article/2012/09/17/asus_geforce_gtx_660_ti_directcu_ii_top_review/10

1 it's a Ti
2 it's a different platform measuring under a different scenario

 

[blazorthon]

Wasn't directed at you

OK, my bad.