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Help Please: phenom II x4 965 BE or FX-4170

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November 18, 2012 7:41:01 PM

So I am building a budget Gaming rig and I cant decide which processor to go with. intel is out of my price range as I am trying to keep as close to $800 as possible. This is my build so far.

The phenom II x4 965 BE and FX-4170 seem to be my best bet for my budget. Which is better for a mainly gaming rig?




AMD FX-4170 Zambezi 4.2GHz (4.3GHz Turbo) Socket AM3+ 125W Quad-Core Desktop Processor FD4170FRGUBOX
Item #: N82E16819106009

$119.99


or


AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor HDZ965FBGMBOX
Item #: N82E16819103727

-$10.00 Instant
$99.99
$89.99



SAMSUNG DVD Burner SATA Model SH-224BB/RSBS
Item #: N82E16827151257

-$4.00 Instant
$20.99
$16.99


Rosewill CHALLENGER Black Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case, comes with Three Fans-1x Front Blue LED 120mm Fan, 1x Top 140mm ...
Item #: N82E16811147153

-$20.00 Instant
$59.99
$39.99


Seagate Barracuda ST1000DM003 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Item #: N82E16822148840

-$30.00 Instant
$109.99
$79.99


ASUS M5A97 R2.0 AM3+ AMD 970 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard with UEFI BIOS
Item #: N82E16813131873

-$5.00 Instant
$99.99
$94.99


2 x XFX Core Edition FX-785A-ZNFC Radeon HD 7850 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
Item #: N82E16814150617

-$10.00 Instant
$20.00 Mail-in Rebate Card
$359.98
$339.98
($169.99 each)


COOLMAX NW-650B 650W ATX12V v2.2 SLI Ready / CrossFire Ready and Compatible with Core i3/i5/i7 Power Supply
Item #: N82E16817159082

$20.00 Mail-in Rebate
$69.99


Microsoft Wireless Desktop 2000 M7J-00001 Black USB RF Wireless Ergonomic Keyboard & Mouse
Item #: N82E16823109235

-$15.00 Instant
$37.99
$22.99


G.SKILL Ares Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-1600C10D-16GAO
Item #: N82E16820231558

-$15.00 Instant
$69.99
$54.99


COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO RR-212E-20PK-R2 Continuous Direct Contact 120mm Sleeve CPU Cooler Compatible with latest Intel ...
Item #: N82E16835103099

$34.99


Subtotal: $844.89 - phenom II

Subtotal: $874.89 - FX-4170

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November 18, 2012 7:47:55 PM

ericjr85 said:
So I am building a budget Gaming rig and I cant decide which processor to go with. intel is out of my price range as I am trying to keep as close to $800 as possible. This is my build so far.

The phenom II x4 965 BE and FX-4170 seem to be my best bet for my budget. Which is better for a mainly gaming rig?




AMD FX-4170 Zambezi 4.2GHz (4.3GHz Turbo) Socket AM3+ 125W Quad-Core Desktop Processor FD4170FRGUBOX
Item #: N82E16819106009

$119.99


or


AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor HDZ965FBGMBOX
Item #: N82E16819103727

-$10.00 Instant
$99.99
$89.99



SAMSUNG DVD Burner SATA Model SH-224BB/RSBS
Item #: N82E16827151257

-$4.00 Instant
$20.99
$16.99


Rosewill CHALLENGER Black Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case, comes with Three Fans-1x Front Blue LED 120mm Fan, 1x Top 140mm ...
Item #: N82E16811147153

-$20.00 Instant
$59.99
$39.99


Seagate Barracuda ST1000DM003 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Item #: N82E16822148840

-$30.00 Instant
$109.99
$79.99


ASUS M5A97 R2.0 AM3+ AMD 970 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard with UEFI BIOS
Item #: N82E16813131873

-$5.00 Instant
$99.99
$94.99


2 x XFX Core Edition FX-785A-ZNFC Radeon HD 7850 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
Item #: N82E16814150617

-$10.00 Instant
$20.00 Mail-in Rebate Card
$359.98
$339.98
($169.99 each)


COOLMAX NW-650B 650W ATX12V v2.2 SLI Ready / CrossFire Ready and Compatible with Core i3/i5/i7 Power Supply
Item #: N82E16817159082

$20.00 Mail-in Rebate
$69.99


Microsoft Wireless Desktop 2000 M7J-00001 Black USB RF Wireless Ergonomic Keyboard & Mouse
Item #: N82E16823109235

-$15.00 Instant
$37.99
$22.99


G.SKILL Ares Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-1600C10D-16GAO
Item #: N82E16820231558

-$15.00 Instant
$69.99
$54.99


COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO RR-212E-20PK-R2 Continuous Direct Contact 120mm Sleeve CPU Cooler Compatible with latest Intel ...
Item #: N82E16835103099

$34.99


Subtotal: $844.89 - phenom II

Subtotal: $874.89 - FX-4170


There is no point in getting a Buldozer it does pretty bad in gaming. In alot of cases your Phenom II would beat out the Bulldozer in games. If you are dead set on AMD go with the Piledriver.
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November 18, 2012 8:24:29 PM

If you are planning a crossfire rig, you can't cheap out on the processor. You need to jump to an i5 or a 8320 at minimum, IMO.




November 18, 2012 8:41:34 PM

twelve25 said:
If you are planning a crossfire rig, you can't cheap out on the processor. You need to jump to an i5 or a 8320 at minimum, IMO.


You don't have to crossfire or SLI to have bottlenecks. The Bulldozer can bottleneck a single high-end video card too.
November 18, 2012 9:10:19 PM

rds1220 said:
BF3 is just one game it's an exception not the norm. Look at the second link. The Bulldozer get's killed and it's pretty much like that across the board in all but a few games.


first link contains bf3 and dirt showdown, fps in both games are almost the same, in the second link fx-4170 beats i3-3220 in starcraft 2
November 18, 2012 9:46:08 PM

I dont plan to crossfire right away. My thoughts were to go with the cheaper phenom until Piledriver comes out and is affordable. I just dont want to get the phenom if it will be trash in 6 months. The FX-4170 is newer but a lot of people seem to like the phenom. I plan on playing a lot of FPS and MMOs if that makes a difference. This is my first gaming rig. I want to be able to play games on a decent setting for a while.
November 18, 2012 9:48:42 PM

This topic has been moved from the section CPU & Components to section Systems by Mousemonkey
November 19, 2012 12:58:48 AM

Even though AMD released the good piledriver cpu's, posters still keep trying to move people to Intel. If the OP said he wants to build a AMD machine for gaming then answer that question and yes they are AMD chips that are good for gaming. Get a FX 4300 or 6300 instead of the other two you asked about. They are not priced much higher.
November 19, 2012 1:25:28 AM

Your best invest will be faster processor and single higher end GPU.

You are paring a couple of HD7850 *1GB* version, those wold be bottlenecked by the Vram. And also not all games will be able to run Xfire properly or scales well. Sometimes Xfire comes with anoying problems and stuff, other times Xfire is just plug & play.

For 330$ you can get a really good HD7950, that overclocks beastly and may get the performance of a vanilla HD7970, which is plenty for todays gaming and a single high end GPU comes with less headaches than a Xfire solution.

Also, the cheapest HD7950 3GB that you can find will be around 300 bucks thats 30 bucks left to get a better processor. As you are getting an aftermarket cooler, you should get an Piledriver Chip aswell. Best recomendation for that build.


FX 8320 + HD7950 or

FX 6300 + HD7850 *2GB version* + SSD 128GB :p 

I mean, with that money you can get a nice machine that will be more than enough for todays gaming !
November 19, 2012 2:47:46 AM

I vote for the 6300.
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