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November 19, 2012 1:46:48 PM

Hello =)
I'm trying to build a new PC for my younger brother for christmas :) 
Basically my father wants to buy him a new one and he went to a local shop last week to get some offers.
However, those offers sadly did not really fulfill his expectations. (I'll list them at the end of the post and i would be really grateful if you can tell me if they are really as bad as they sound to me)

The plan is now to build a PC on my own. In order to do so, I need tons of help though, the last time i tried to do something like this was ~2 years ago and I acquired help from these forums back then aswell (btw: The build that you guys suggested to me is still running flawlessly, big thanks :D  )

I tried to follow one of the stickies:

Approximate Purchase Date: 1-2 weeks

Budget Range: ~1000 € (-> ~1200$) (no rebates)

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, surfing the internet, general use

Parts Not Required: No periphereals needes at all, just the tower and its components itself

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: http://www.alternate.at/html/index.html (everything will be bought from this site)

Country: Austria

Parts Preferences: Intel CPU, Nvidia GPU (although a Radeon GPU is also "ok")

Overclocking: No

SLI or Crossfire: No

Monitor Resolution: 1920x1200

Additional Comments: No bling bling needed, though if there is some it's appreciated =D. The PC should be silent!


Based on some suggested builds I have already tried to build something on my own, altough it got a bit to expensive :(  I'll list the parts here:

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master V8
http://www.alternate.at/html/product/Cooler_Master/V8/3...

GPU: MSI N660Ti PE 2GD5/OC (GTX 660 Ti)
http://www.alternate.at/html/product/MSI/N660Ti_PE_2GD5...

CPU: Intel® Core™ i5-3570
http://www.alternate.at/html/product/Intel%28R%29/Core_...

PSU: Seasonic M12II-620 620 Watt
http://www.alternate.at/html/product/Seasonic/M12II-620...

Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 Plus
http://www.alternate.at/html/product/Cooler_Master/HAF_...

Soundcard: Creative SoundBlaster Audigy SE OEM
http://www.alternate.at/html/product/Creative/SoundBlas...

Optical Drive:ASUS DRW-24B5ST
http://www.alternate.at/html/product/ASUS/DRW-24B5ST/99...

SSD: OCZ Agility3 2,5" SSD 120 GB
http://www.alternate.at/html/product/OCZ/Agility3_2,5_S...

HDD: Samsung HD103SJ 1 TB
http://www.alternate.at/html/product/Samsung/HD103SJ_1_...

RAM: Corsair DIMM 8 GB DDR3-1600 Kit
http://www.alternate.at/html/product/information/pageBu...

Mainboard: ASUS P8Z77-V LK
https://www.alternate.at/html/product/information/pageB...


First of all i would be glad if you critize this as much as possible and tell me a better build =P. Secondly its about ~150€ too expensive, so I need some cheaper parts somewhere.

I'm open to any recommendations :D 

PS: here are the offers from the Shop:

1.)
i7-3770 3,4 GHz 3rd generation
12GB RAM
1TB HDD
Radeon HD7570

I don't have any further information sadly :(  It would cost 999€

2.)
Case: Coolermaster CM 690 II
Mainboard: ASUS Sabertooth Z77
CPU: i5-3550 3,3 ghz
RAM: Kingston 8GB 1600
HDD: 1TB Seagate 7200rpm
GPU: ASUS GTX660 2GB
PSU: COUGAR GX800W

This one would cost 1500 Euros with Installation which is waaaay too much!

I would be really thankful if you can also tell me if these 2 offers are suitable for a gaming PC, especially the first offer.

Big thanks in advance :) 

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November 19, 2012 1:53:05 PM

To knock a little money off that build, move to a Radeon 7870, get rid of the sound card and you don't need a fancy CPU cooler if you aren't overclocking (and you got a non K intel chip). You also probably don't need a Z77 if you get a non K chip, so maybe you can find a nice H77 or B75 board for less money.

It looks like a great build, though, so no worries. Did you budget for a Windows license?





November 19, 2012 2:42:54 PM

Is the Radeon HD7870 comparable in performance to the GTX660? Because the PC will mainly be used for gaming.
Also, which brand should i choose? There are so many :o  Gigabyte, MSI, Powercolour, Sapphire, Asus, Club3d.
Additionally, should i used an Overclockoed one, or a normal one? It should not get too loud!

Also as you said I looked for a new CPU Cooler and another mainboard and found those:

Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo
http://www.alternate.at/html/product/Cooler_Master/Hype...

and

GIGABYTE GA-H77-D3H
http://www.alternate.at/html/product/GIGABYTE/GA-H77-D3...

Are these 2 any good and do they fit into the remaining build?

And yes, I have extra budget for the Windows License =D
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November 19, 2012 2:53:26 PM

You can find benchmarks for the 7870 and 660 Ti on this site:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-660-ti-...

It kind of depends on the game. BF3 seems to favor the 660 but some others favor the Radeon. The 7870 can be easily overclocked, too.

That Hyper 212 is a good cooler, but again, you shouldn't need an aftermarket cooler with a non-overclocked processor. The processor will come with one that works fine.

You've mentioned you want the computer to be silent, and I will just say that's a near impossibility with a gaming rig. These high end graphics cards are so powerful they generate as much or more heat as your main CPU. When playing a high end game, you are going to hear the fans ramp up and aside from running some fancy watercooled system, there is nothing you can do about it.

November 19, 2012 7:32:09 PM

Yeah, I really like Gigabyte motherboards. That should be a nice one.

Powercolor is a good brand. They've been making graphics cards since the 90s. The performance is really the same on all brands, so it comes down to just picking one with good reviews and a good price.

If you still need to shave a few euros off the price, you could save another 10-20 by dropping to an i5-3470 or 3350p. You probably won't notice the difference in games, but I'd get the 3570 if you can. Again, not the K version if you are getting the H77 board. If you do end up getting the seperate higher end cooler, like the H212, then you can get one of the non-boxed CPUs and save 5 bucks.



November 20, 2012 2:50:37 PM

With these changes im now down to 1070 euros, inlcuding a Windows 7 version : perfect! :D 

Thank you so much, you really helped me a lot! :) 
November 20, 2012 3:15:14 PM

Yeah, no problem. Happy to help. :) 

You will be getting slightly better performance compared to your second store-bought option above for almost 500 less!

!