MSI GeForce GTX 650 Power Edition OC

Does anyone know is the new GTX 650 better than the GTX 460 and radeon 6850?
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  1. Lazar_99 said:
    Does anyone know is the new GTX 650 better than the GTX 460 and radeon 6850?



    The gtx 650 seems to be a bit slower then the 7770, and the gtx 460 is faster then the 7770, If you need the 2gb of vram go with the 650 but if you are running one monitor at 1920x1080 or lower the 460 is the way to go.

    This is all that I could find for a link

    http://www.hwcompare.com/13493/geforce-gtx-460-1gb-vs-geforce-gtx-650/
  2. cia24 said:
    The gtx 650 seems to be a bit slower then the 7770, and the gtx 460 is faster then the 7770, If you need the 2gb of vram go with the 650 but if you are running one monitor at 1920x1080 or lower the 460 is the way to go.

    This is all that I could find for a link

    http://www.hwcompare.com/13493/geforce-gtx-460-1gb-vs-geforce-gtx-650/


    though i don't believe what hw compare says because it shows the 6850 is better in everything than the 460 but when it comes to benchmarking its different.
    I now have 2 PC's one is using a 6850, athlon II X3, 4gb ram and the other is using a GTX 650, phenom II 710, 8gb ram and the 650/phenom rig destroyed the 6850/athlon rig without much effort. In every game the 650 rig defeated the 6850 rig. Man the athlon II is a pathetic excuse for a CPU
  3. Athlons lol!
  4. GTX 550 Ti is slower than GTX 460. GT 650 is slower than GTX 550 Ti.

    http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/geforce-gtx-660-geforce-gtx-650-benchmark,review-32523-7.html
  5. cia24 said:
    Athlons lol!


    What's so funny? They are bad. After a few hours with the phenom i realized how bad the athlon is, should have never bought it in the first place.
  6. Sunius said:
    GTX 550 Ti is slower than GTX 460. GT 650 is slower than GTX 550 Ti.

    http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/geforce-gtx-660-geforce-gtx-650-benchmark,review-32523-7.html


    Why the hell is the newer GTX 650 slower than its older brother the 550ti?
  7. New gen cards are "energy efficent" do the math.
  8. cia24 said:
    New gen cards are "energy efficent" do the math.


    Ah... nice. So i just wasted 140$ on a 650 which is slower than the 550Ti that costs 110$... :ouch:
  9. Lazar_99 said:
    Ah... nice. So i just wasted 140$ on a 650 which is slower than the 550Ti that costs 110$... :ouch:



    Send it back lol.
  10. cia24 said:
    Send it back lol.


    I got it as soon as it was in stores and i thought it would be faster than the 550Ti but i was wrong. Why did nvidia make such a large performance gap between the 650 and the 660?
  11. Lazar_99 said:
    I got it as soon as it was in stores and i thought it would be faster than the 550Ti but i was wrong. Why did nvidia make such a large performance gap between the 650 and the 660?



    No idea, why did they realease the gtx 580 so soon after the 480?
  12. cia24 said:
    No idea, why did they realease the gtx 580 so soon after the 480?


    Thanks for the terrific news -.- Now no one will buy the 650 because its overpriced for its performance pretty much like the 550Ti was...
  13. Nvidia really didn't shine in $150 budget range for the last few years - since GT 240 - and it doesn't look like it's gonna change any time soon.
  14. Sunius said:
    Nvidia really didn't shine in $150 budget range for the last few years - since GT 240 - and it doesn't look like it's gonna change any time soon.


    Now that you mentioned it i still have the GT 240 GDDR5 in one of the boxes of my new cards and i remember i paid 80$ for it in 2009... great card for the money at that time
  15. The GT240 GDDR5 is nothing to laugh at when tweaked and I still consider it to be a decent card but a gtx460 is a beast when overclocked. It will match a reference 560 ti when pushed over 900mhz and when modded they last. I have owned one for over two years and I can say this without a doubt that it is a true workhorse. Over 6-7 thousand hours of wow and other games in 40c+ ambient heat.
  16. nforce4max said:
    The GT240 GDDR5 is nothing to laugh at when tweaked and I still consider it to be a decent card but a gtx460 is a beast when overclocked. It will match a reference 560 ti when pushed over 900mhz and when modded they last. I have owned one for over two years and I can say this without a doubt that it is a true workhorse. Over 6-7 thousand hours of wow and other games in 40c+ ambient heat.


    I plan on replacing the 6850 with the GTX 660 or GTX 660Ti. I'm glad Nvidia decided to make some "less" power demanding cards
  17. Lazar_99 said:
    I got it as soon as it was in stores and i thought it would be faster than the 550Ti but i was wrong. Why did nvidia make such a large performance gap between the 650 and the 660?

    because the 650ti will be coming out soon
  18. Lazar_99 said:
    I plan on replacing the 6850 with the GTX 660 or GTX 660Ti. I'm glad Nvidia decided to make some "less" power demanding cards


    Yea for the first time in years but I am still not satisfied with all the changes that they have made. They left openGL out altogether so those apps don't work very well and to add rock salt to the wounds the compute performance is spotty. :??:

    Plus if I ended up with one of the popular models the coil squeal will drive me nuts.
  19. computernoob29 said:
    because the 650ti will be coming out soon


    I doubt there will be a GTX 650 Ti because it doesn't say on the Nvidia website that there will be a 650Ti
  20. nforce4max said:
    Yea for the first time in years but I am still not satisfied with all the changes that they have made. They left openGL out altogether so those apps don't work very well and to add rock salt to the wounds the compute performance is spotty. :??:

    Plus if I ended up with one of the popular models the coil squeal will drive me nuts.


    Wha? The new 600 series delivers better performance and less power consumption.
  21. just get a HD 6850 or HD 7770
  22. gamerkila57 said:
    just get a HD 6850 or HD 7770


    I already have a HD 6850 -.- i plan on replacing it as soon as i get a new board and CPU
  23. if you already have a HD 6850 why would you downgrade to a GTX 650

    O_O
  24. gamerkila57 said:
    if you already have a HD 6850 why would you downgrade to a GTX 650

    O_O


    I have them both. I wanted to upgrade to a GTX 660.
  25. if you want to upgrade go for a HD 7850 or HD 7870
  26. gamerkila57 said:
    if you want to upgrade go for a HD 7850 or HD 7870


    WTF?! The GTX 660 can blow all of that away and its lower priced than the 7870. I smell an AMD fanboy. Btw the 6850 was a major disappointment, sucks at 1080p gaming...
  27. Lazar_99 said:
    WTF?! The GTX 660 can blow all of that away and its lower priced than the 7870. I smell an AMD fanboy. Btw the 6850 was a major disappointment, sucks at 1080p gaming...

    wow :o . no i'm not a AMD or NVidia fanboy. I rather recommend a GTX 670 over a GTX 660 TI or GTX 660 as when they were released they were disappointments to me ? I recommend gpu that are the best bang for your buck and a GTX 660 and GTX 660 TI are not it with there 192Bit bus which makes them unlikely to be future proof.


    http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-660-geforce-gtx-650-benchmark,3297-24.html
  28. GTX 660 is decent. GTX 660 Ti is not.
  29. gamerkila57 said:
    wow :o . no i'm not a AMD or NVidia fanboy. I rather recommend a GTX 670 over a GTX 660 TI or GTX 660 as when they were released they were disappointments to me ? I recommend gpu that are the best bang for your buck and a GTX 660 and GTX 660 TI are not it with there 192Bit bus which makes them unlikely to be future proof.


    http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-660-geforce-gtx-650-benchmark,3297-24.html


    Oh i'm sorry. The GTX 660 costs 284$ (here in my country) and the cheapest radeon 7850 costs 315$ do you still think this is a bang for your buck considering the 7850 is slower than the 660?
  30. Sunius said:
    GTX 660 is decent. GTX 660 Ti is not.


    Why is that?
  31. Lazar_99 said:
    Why is that?

    because for the same price of the GTX 660 TI you can get a HD 7950 which will out perform it and overclock amazingly
  32. gamerkila57 said:
    because for the same price of the GTX 660 TI you can get a HD 7950 which will out perform it and overclock amazingly


    What about the fact that the 7850 is 31$ more expensive than the GTX 660 and is slower? I also have had the driver problem with the 6850 all the time and it either had screen flickering, random artifacts on high resolutions, when they released a driver that fixed all of that i decided that the 6850 is worthless and all it did was anger me
  33. Lazar_99 said:
    What about the fact that the 7850 is 31$ more expensive than the GTX 660 and is slower? I also have had the driver problem with the 6850 all the time and it either had screen flickering, random artifacts on high resolutions, when they released a driver that fixed all of that i decided that the 6850 is worthless and all it did was anger me

    GTX 660 $229

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130826

    HD 7850 $219

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127663

    seems more expansive to me XD

    the HD 7850 can also overclock pretty easily past 1GHz on stock volts


    Edit: AMD drivers have been great for the past few months since the HD 7000 series was released
  34. gamerkila57 said:
    GTX 660 $229

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130826

    HD 7850 $219

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127663

    seems more expansive to me XD

    the HD 7850 can also overclock pretty easily past 1GHz on stock volts


    Edit: AMD drivers have been great for the past few months since the HD 7000 series was released


    You know that's not the way i see it in my country. here the 7850 is more expensive though nothing can beat the fact that the 7850 is slower than a 660
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