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September 23, 2012 10:07:04 PM

I'm buying a new GPU and my TV resolution is the one above, what card do i need to max out every game? By that I mean BT3, Bordelands 2, the upcoming GTA V and others for a while. The cheaper the better also, so don't just come in saying 670 GTX or HD 7970...
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September 23, 2012 10:51:07 PM

MSI R7870 HAWK Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
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September 23, 2012 10:58:52 PM

And when somebody comes in saying 670 or 7970 it's because it's needed sometimes life sucks sometimes you can't have your cake and eat it to lucky for you on your res 670 or 7970 are not needed to achieve your goal.
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September 23, 2012 11:33:15 PM

7850 will max everything at this resolution. However, the best bank for your buck is offered by Sapphire HD 7770 Vapor-X. In this resolutions the difference in performance with a 7850 is minimal, and also is considarably cheaper.

Here it is:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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September 23, 2012 11:39:55 PM

Yeah good luck with a 7770 maxing out Skyrim or Metro lol
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September 23, 2012 11:47:05 PM

Skyrim will get maxed with the help of a good CPU, Metro is an exception, maybe the only one. Seriously in order to max Metro you need to spend almost double the budget of 7770. Is it worth it for just one game? I dont think so, unless you intend to play Metro 24/7. For almost all others modern games 7770 is more than enough in this resolution. Also Vapor-X version is stronger than most 7770
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September 23, 2012 11:53:03 PM

It's up to you OP if you want to go with 7770 go ahead i am NOT the one recommending it though but to each their own
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September 23, 2012 11:58:26 PM

Shouldnt he be able to max out on a lower res? Hes not on 1080p
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September 24, 2012 12:00:35 AM

BigMack70 said:
Yeah Metro is pretty much the only thing a 7770 can't play maxed out at your resolution. BF3 and Crysis 2 will be very playable but may or may not be as smooth as you want. If you're looking to be set for a while, I'd recommend the 7850 or 7870 but you could also just buy the 7770, save the $100 difference, and put it to an upgrade in a couple years.
+1 i will bite on that and agree with it
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September 24, 2012 12:15:40 AM

I knew it was only a matter of time before those charts showed up. Now go get the specs of the machine that those benchmarks are made with and post them also.
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September 24, 2012 12:25:20 AM

IDK guys I think if he's on a tight budger (not sure if he is or not) a HD7770 would be a great option. He will play on maxed settings for most games comfortably. Some games he might have to lower AA. I run a 6670 with GDDR5 in my HTPC, I run 720p on a 32" tv and I max out a lot of games. The 7770 is considerably more powerful than that.

OP how much were you trying to spend?
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September 24, 2012 12:29:38 AM

I actually played COD2 on a 5450 2gig card ( like it makes a difference ) on a dual core 939 dinosaur at 720p. Don't remember the settings but it looked pretty good. The 7770 might be okay for quite a lot.
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September 24, 2012 12:29:56 AM

I love my 7770, it'll max out all the games I play, including Skyrim. The thing about me though is I don't care if I'm playing on slightly lower graphics. I spent $105 on this card and I'm not sure how long it's going to last but when I decide it's not doing it any more I'll step up to something else.

Basically if you want to be able to max everything out, and have it all run fantastic a 7870 is a good way to go. If you want to max out most things but don't really care a whole lot, a 6850 is a good card to get. It'll out perform the 7770 in pretty much any game and unless you find a good deal on a 7770 like I did, it'll only be an extra $20 or so.
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September 24, 2012 12:34:03 AM

Yeah my reasoning behind the 7870 recommendation is to try and future proof you although there no such thing as future proof i figure if you get a 7870 you should be set for a few years however i have no way to Guarantee that
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September 24, 2012 12:37:39 AM

i say go for a GTX 560 Ti or HD 6870
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September 24, 2012 12:39:49 AM

bigcyco1 said:
Yeah my reasoning behind the 7870 recommendation is to try and future proof you although there no such thing as future proof i figure if you get a 7870 you should be set for a few years however i have no way to Guarantee that


Yeah, and that is a good suggestion. Especially considering he never gave us a specific budget.

I love my HD7870, even for 1080p gaming. I imagine it would be pretty stout for 720p. I haven't played Metro 2033 on this card yet. I played it on my pair of 6950s and THOSE didn't max it out either so I can only imagine what it would take to do that. I did get BF3 the other day and I play at Ultra settings but I turned AA to 2x and AF to 8x to get 60-80FPS.
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September 24, 2012 12:50:32 AM

bigcyco1 said:
Yeah my reasoning behind the 7870 recommendation is to try and future proof you although there no such thing as future proof i figure if you get a 7870 you should be set for a few years however i have no way to Guarantee that

Your right, and thats really the reason for spending more money on a GPU, besides a few really graphic heavy games something half the price will max out current games.
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September 24, 2012 12:52:57 AM

mace200200 said:
Your right, and thats really the reason for spending more money on a GPU, besides a few really graphic heavy games something half the price will max out current games.

I agree theres a few games i prob couldnt max out but then again i play on high settings and im pretty happy with i
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September 24, 2012 12:59:23 AM

I have two questions for you OP what are the rest of your system spes and also can you be more specific do you play Metro and with the upcoming GTA V and other games coming out in the future we can't tell you what card you'll need to max out future games neither can fortune tellers, they are a bunch of thieves preying on the weak and desperate....it is the ''law of suckers''.
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September 24, 2012 1:06:59 AM

I like the 560 or 6870 this will allow for really great gaming at that resolution
full settings in most games, frankly if it were me I'd look at those cards, if your feeling saucy maybe a 560ti or perhaps a 7850 1gb but that is way over doing it,

7770 would be decent but a 6850 would be around the same price and offer slightly better performance and like the 7770 can be overclocked nicely
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September 24, 2012 1:08:37 AM

First of all thanks for all the replies. My current specs are
4gb ram ddr2(not sure speeds)
600w psu
intel core 2 quad q8400@3.2ghz

As a fact in budget there isn't a real limit, but i would like to keep it under US$300.00, but lower is better.

I'm considering this one
http://www.amazon.com/XFX-Radeon-DisplayPort-PCI-Expres...
because it's smaller than the other 7870's, and my case isn't the big fancy ones

Currently I'm playing BT3, Civ V, Fifa 12, saints row, minecraft and GTA IV.

Regarding the 7770, how playable is it with other games than Metro? I'd like to keep a safe 60 fps to future proofing
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September 24, 2012 1:15:54 AM

I never used a XFX branded card before maybe others can help you there i only use Asus and MSI cards because i never had issues with their cards i have had issues with gigabyte cards and others so i don't mess with them so it's a comfort thing not fanboy lol.EDIT- What brand PSU is it can you list make and model also that cpu is old bro
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September 24, 2012 1:17:53 AM

wow buddy after that post stick to a GTX 560 or HD 6870 as it will be badly bottlenecked any higher with a C2Q
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September 24, 2012 1:20:30 AM

I really like XFX. They switched to a metal shroud on their cooling for this generation of cards. It's a lot more durable but I've heard from owners that it doesn't cool as well as a Sapphire, MSI, or ASUS. I would try to grab a Sapphire. They're generally a few dollars cheaper but you aren't losing any performance or quality in those few dollars.
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September 24, 2012 1:23:13 AM

Guys do you think because his cpu he have bottleneck issues with 7870 i think it's very possible but i am not sure that is why i am asking lol
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September 24, 2012 1:24:23 AM

I'm saving for a new build in a year or more. I live in brazil and pc components here are just too expensive(one 7950 costs something like US$800.00). My aunt is going to US in the end of the year and I'm going to ask her to bring me the GPU since i believe it's the biggest problem in my build for gaming. When I actually go there i shall buy the rest of the parts. Would the C2Q be such a bottleneck for a 7850/70 or even to an 560ti/660 non ti?
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September 24, 2012 1:45:25 AM

Agreed. And I'll bring you some new parts in 2014 when I come for the World Cup! (assuming USA doesn't choke in qualifiers)
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September 24, 2012 6:42:41 AM

I think most everyone(but not a few people) is/are forgetting that the op wants to play Borderlands 2. I don't know if ya'll have seen that video floating
around, but the game looks much better with physx than without. That said, a geforce may be the better choice here. It is possible to combine a
radeon with a low end geforce like gt610(either pcie or pci) to get both superior bang for the buck from amd in the mid range and physx support. It isn't
perfect, but totally doable. Also, that 3.2 ghz C2Q shouldn't be a bottleneck(it's like a i7 920). OP, if your budget is 300 US(your relative buys your parts
in the states), you could get a hd7870 for 230 and a gt610 for 40(270 total) and be 30 under budget. A 7870 can overclock quite well, too. That should
last you for a while at what is basically 720p(can a tv like that even take a signal set at native res, or would it take a 720p signal and fit it/upscale it?).
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September 24, 2012 11:03:33 AM

He might experience a bottleneck but whether he has a 7770 and no bottleneck or a 660/7870 and a bottleneck he will still get better performance with the higher end cards. If the OP can overclock his C2Q he could alleviate some of the bottleneck.
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September 24, 2012 11:40:13 AM

The op's cpu is likely already OCed to the max. C2Q 8400 is normally 2.66ghz(333x8) and here it's 3.2ghz(400x8). When i7 920 launched(2.66ghz), it
was about as fast as 9770 at 3.2ghz. Granted C2Q 8400 has 1/3 the L2 cache compared to 9770, but it shouldn't perform much slower. Even now, i7 920
isn't a major bottleneck in games. If you crank graphics settings to 11, the onus switches to the gpu. At low res you might notice a limitation from the
cpu, but the gpu likely be so fast at that res it shouldn't make a big difference(maybe that doesn't make much sense once I think on it a bit). I suppose
by getting a cheaper card you would have less wasted frame rate above what the cpu can push vs buying a faster, more expensive card. I wonder where
the cutoff would be. I guess it depends on the game in question(or games, as the case may be). At least 2 of the 3 games aren't out on pc yet right?
(gta 5 and borderlands 2). What is BT3? Is that supposed to be Battlefield 3(BF3) or something else entirely? Anyway, a system overhaul with new cpu,
mobo, and possibly os and ram is out of the question since getting all that and a card under budget defeats the purpose of the platform upgrade.

Maybe it's me, but it seems games generally hit a graphics wall before hitting a processing wall, and that trend may well continue(save some outliers
here and there). It should be a good idea to get the best gpu within budget with the thought of it becoming the greater bottleneck over time.
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September 24, 2012 11:00:18 PM

stickg1 said:
Agreed. And I'll bring you some new parts in 2014 when I come for the World Cup! (assuming USA doesn't choke in qualifiers)

hahaha hope to see you here then, visit sao paulo and not just rio and ***.
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September 24, 2012 11:02:33 PM

jtenorj said:
The op's cpu is likely already OCed to the max. C2Q 8400 is normally 2.66ghz(333x8) and here it's 3.2ghz(400x8). When i7 920 launched(2.66ghz), it
was about as fast as 9770 at 3.2ghz. Granted C2Q 8400 has 1/3 the L2 cache compared to 9770, but it shouldn't perform much slower. Even now, i7 920
isn't a major bottleneck in games. If you crank graphics settings to 11, the onus switches to the gpu. At low res you might notice a limitation from the
cpu, but the gpu likely be so fast at that res it shouldn't make a big difference(maybe that doesn't make much sense once I think on it a bit). I suppose
by getting a cheaper card you would have less wasted frame rate above what the cpu can push vs buying a faster, more expensive card. I wonder where
the cutoff would be. I guess it depends on the game in question(or games, as the case may be). At least 2 of the 3 games aren't out on pc yet right?
(gta 5 and borderlands 2). What is BT3? Is that supposed to be Battlefield 3(BF3) or something else entirely? Anyway, a system overhaul with new cpu,
mobo, and possibly os and ram is out of the question since getting all that and a card under budget defeats the purpose of the platform upgrade.

Maybe it's me, but it seems games generally hit a graphics wall before hitting a processing wall, and that trend may well continue(save some outliers
here and there). It should be a good idea to get the best gpu within budget with the thought of it becoming the greater bottleneck over time.

Do you think the new AMD HD 8000 series is worth waiting? All you said makes sense. And yeah i meant bf3 lol, dunno why i wrote bt3. As I said I may wait forthis pc to get really bad untill next big upgrade. It`s still fine for my purposes yet.
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September 24, 2012 11:09:39 PM

Also, my friend has an 5770, according to toms video card hierarchy chart it is at the same level of a 7770. Will it be useful?
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September 25, 2012 12:58:17 AM

Idk anything concrete about the hd8000 series, so I can't say if it's wise to wait or not. What graphics card are you using now(idea of likely improvement)?

When hd7770 launched, it was around gtx460 768 and hd6790 which are above gtx550ti, which is above hd5770/hd6770. It was a little slower than hd6850.
At that time, hardocp found that a mildly overclocked xfx hd7770 delivered the same game play experience as hd6870 and gtx560ti. See the article here:

http://hardocp.com/article/2012/02/14/xfx_r7770_black_e...

If you read the BF3 page, you'll see hd7770 allowed them to smoothly frag people online on ultra*(fxaa instead of 4xaa, ssao instead of hbao, motion blur
off for both better frame rates and so they could see enemies better) at 1920x1200(~2.3mpixels). That was with launch drivers. 7770 is notably faster now.

They also overclocked the gddr5 quite a bit more, and you can too(this 128bit card can use all the bandwidth you can give it). A free program like MSI After-
burner will let you adjust gpu voltage to get the core past 1200(maybe 1250). Oh, if your tv's input signal ends up being 720p fit to the screen, thats a little
over 900kpixels(about 40% of hardocp's 1920x1200 screen res). Oh, can you give us more details about your 600w psu? Brand, model, number of amps(A)
on the +12v rail(s)(If it has more than 1 +12v rail, what are amp values on the rails and the max total +12v output for the whole psu?), and how many
molex and pcie power connectors(also what type, like how many 6pin and how many 8pin/6+2pin)? That will help us provide better suggestions of card 2 u.

Oh, were you thinking of buying your friend's hd5770, or is that close to the card you have now? So many questions, I know. All to serve you better, though.

I think I may have just inadvertently made a little rhyme. Huh. Oh, well. This should be above, but gtx460 1GB is like hd6850 and gtx560 is like hd6870.
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September 25, 2012 1:20:35 AM

BigMack70 said:
At that resolution and with a C2Q, get an HD 7770. No point getting a really powerful GPU like a 560ti/660/7870 etc on that CPU. Just a waste of cash.

The 7770 will play everything fine at your resolution anyways. Worst case scenario you have to turn down or turn off AA.



come on guy there are tons of people out there with amd 9xx BE' which are clock for clock slower than c2Q

no waste 560ti 7850/7870 will not be an issue at high resolution when overclocked
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September 25, 2012 1:23:02 AM

haha great rhyme.
Currently i got an EVGA 250gts 512mb
My PSU is from a local brand, MTEK, and is similar to this one(i have a diferent one)
http://www.mtek.com.br/node/107
got 2 6pin conectors, the rest of the specs are basically the same.
Sorry for the portuguese link, but thats what i`ve got
Thanks for all the help
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September 25, 2012 2:13:53 PM

BigMack70 said:
Are you serious? For one thing, the whole point of this thread is that OP is NOT gaming at high resolution. Please read before posting, maybe?

For another thing, a 4 GHz Phenom II x6 bottlenecked a single 7970 of mine at 1080p in several games... cut the CPU power a bit and the resolution in half and you will definitely get bottlenecking on something like the 7870.

I don't think some of you understand how insanely not-demanding 1366x768 is on the GPU... it requires half the GPU power that 1080p does, which means you will run into your CPU bottleneck very quickly as you climb up the GPU-tiers.


I did actually read it and 1280x720 is a high resolution....Read a book before shooting off your mouth

The bottle neck you think you are talking about occurs at 800x600
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September 25, 2012 2:30:23 PM

I disagree, 720P is low for something like a 7870. Like I said earlier I run a 6670 on my backup machine and at 720p I nearly max out my games. I set it to 1080p and my fps is in the 20s. That's a huge jump from 60 to 25.
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September 25, 2012 5:42:27 PM

BigMack70 said:
1280x720 was a high resolution in like 2002.



I notice you still have not done that reading.


Also the affect only takes place because the graphics card is creating more frames than the cpu can output which is why to confirm this you need to dial down to 800X600 if the CPU is maxed and GPU is not there you have it, Jesus man seriously read a book. I also did agree the 7870 is a waste not because a c2d oc'd would be a bottleneck but because it is a waste of power for that resolution.

I was super wrong about PSU's not too long ago and you know I fixed that I read about it in detail for a few weeks and it helped.
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September 25, 2012 6:54:00 PM

1080p is pretty popular(nice combo of low price and high res). Multi monitor gaming is still pretty niche though(maybe 5% if that?).

I don't like the look of that psu. Best not to put more of a power strain on it that you already have. Your gts250 is a 145w gpu according to wikipedia.

When HD4850 launched, it spanked 9800gtx. Nvidia quickly released the die shrunk 9800gtx+ to better compete(then amd turned around and added
another 512MB to HD4850). Almost a year later, nvidia released gts250(same 55nm g92b die as 9800gtx+, but a newer stepping) with either 1GB or
512MB of vram to compete with HD4850 and the 40nm HD4770 with 512MB of vram. With the new stepping, nvidia was able to shorten the card length
and get the tdp under 150w(thereby requiring only 1 pcie 6pin). It was somewhat of a hit with oems. HD5850 was as fast as or faster than any HD4850x2,
and HD6870 is as fast as or faster than HD5850. We know how well a HD7770 will let you play games compared to some other amd and nvidia cards if
you overclock it somewhat(HD6870, gtx560ti). An overclock to 1250mhz core and a high vram oc would get the max tdp to around 100w without changing
voltage. You won't get that high without changing voltage, though. With a 10% increase in voltage, power use would be around 121w. If you add a gt610
for physx support(24w to 30w), the combined total max tdp would be between 145w and 151w. The HD7770 will likely use quite a bit less than that, even
if you stressed it with Furmark(would use less power than that gaming). If you decide physx isn't a big deal(I don't think it is), then go for a 2GB(more
important)hd7850 with a 130w tdp(uses far less than that while gaming, and won't pass 150w tdp when overclocked unless you decide to use extreme
cooling like water and mod the card to go out of pcie spec. Not wise with that psu, and I don't like water cooling for several reasons).

Right now, you can get a hd7770 for as low as 115 and a gt610 as low as 30 here in the US. A good 2GB hd7850 can be had for around 180. You would
need to have 2 pcie x16 slots(electrical, not 16 lanes for 2nd slot) with a slot or 2 between them on your mobo to do the radeon+geforce thing, though.

If you want to spring for a better psu, the worlds of hd7870 and gtx660 open to you while staying under 300. They may bottleneck on your cpu, though.

OP, what mobo is that overclocked Q8400 sitting in? Does it have more than one pci express graphics(PEG) slot with decent spacing between them?

Oh. 7870 is a bit cheaper and faster than gtx660. It overclocks better, too(gtx660 overclocking is limited compared to other cards hosting a 28nm gpu).

If you overclock a 7850 by a ways it will almost catch gtx660. If you go higher(and you can), you compete with it OCed and perform like stock 7870s.

What version of windows are you running(xp, vista, 7)? Is it 32bit or 64bit? I hope its 64bit so you can best use your system ram and lots of vram.

I guess you have at least vista or 7 if you are running BF3(dx10 minimum code path). Still. it'd be nice to know if your system is 32bit or 64bit.

If an overclocked 7770 can run bf3 multi player on ultra(with a few tweaks) at 1920x1200 over 24fps(or 30 even), then it should do over 60 minimum
at 720p(which is ~40% of 1920x1200 or a little over 900kpixels vs ~2.3mpixels). The tv screen res is a little higher than 1280x800(~1mpixel). It does
depend on you processor's ability to serve up enough data to keep the gpu fed, though. Any other game(save metro) should run as well or better.

I guess you specifically mentioned borderlands 2 in your original post. That game looks a lot better w/physx than w/o. You can still get a good combo
of price/performance and physx by getting a 7770 and a gt610 if your mobo has 2 or more PEG slots spaced out. If your mobo doesn't have that,
then you may have to get an nvidia gpu with lower price/performance(maybe higher tdp if an older card, or lower tdp if a newer card). gtx550ti can be
had for 85 bucks, but won't be much better than what you have now(even less of a boost when some of the cuda cores get switched from graphics duty
to physx duty). gtx560(or the ti versions)need more power, so the best for under 300 would be gtx660 and a new psu. Not a fan of bl2's art style myself.

Edit: I think this thread just passed 50 posts. Huh.
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September 25, 2012 6:58:47 PM

Lol!Is OP even still reading this thread?
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September 25, 2012 7:40:13 PM

Well, the OP's first post is listed as being after 6 last night, and the last was post was before 9:30. Maybe they only get online in the early evening hours.

They may post again tonight, or check during the day(if they get email alerts for threads they've posted in like I do, they may hop on if they check email).

Edit: OP, if you check your most recent email first and are directed here(page 2), you may want to take a look at page 1 to see what you missed.
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September 25, 2012 7:43:37 PM

jtenorj said:
Well, the OP's first post is listed as being after 6 last night, and the last was post was before 9:30. Maybe they only get online in the early evening hours.

They may post again tonight, or check during the day(if they get email alerts for threads they've posted in like I do, they may hop on if they check email).
That makes sense ;)  we shall see.
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September 25, 2012 11:22:58 PM

Hi, sorry for the late response, with time zone and school it's kind of hard to keep up with all the posts.
I got only one pcie x16 slot, windows 7 64 bits, and the rest of the specs listed. Whats wrong with the psu?
And also, i think that in the 100~200 list i could buy a gtx 650 ti right?
If I'm changing mobo I would go for a full new pc and would have to year or two untill I go to US by myself. Not sure you read but I'm going to ask my aunt to bring it to me( I live in Brazil). If I were going to build my pc here one like http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/build-a-pc-overcloc...
would cost something like US$2500.00, which i can't afford.
I can only ask like one part to upgrade right now, and i believe the biggest bottleneck for my current rig is the GPU and that's why i asked for advices here. Am i right?
And again thanks for all the help you guys are giving
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September 26, 2012 12:30:36 AM

Yeah the import taxes in Brazil are wild. My brother has a friend in Sao Paulo. When we come for the world cup he wants both of us to bring high end laptops and smartphones. One for him and the others we can sell and pay for most of our airfare with the profits. He in turn provides us with a place to stay for the few weeks we spend there.
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September 26, 2012 12:47:19 AM

Nice deal you guys made, hate taxes and all the other factors. 50% on eletronics is BULLSHIT man
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September 26, 2012 1:14:35 AM

About your psu... if the specs on it are truly like the one you linked(a 650w psu with 4 +12v rails at 18A ie 216w each) I hold little faith in its ability to
properly power a card with a tdp higher than the gts250 you have now. Also, don't go with gtx650. It's about the same speed as your current card(slower
if you turn on physx). It's slower than hd7750 but costs 25 bucks more(hd7750 at 85, gtx650 at 110). Nvidia gave the gtx650 a 6pin connector(even
though it doesn't need one at 65w tdp) to enable overclocking. It starts at such a high clock though(1050-1080) that there's little room left to go.

If you have US 300 to spend( a little over 1k in US for tom's 1k build is like 2500 to you so US 300 is like 800 to you, at least I think you mentioned
that number earlier) AND you really want/need physx for borderlands 2( again, I'm personally not a fan of the cartoonish art direction, but whatever),
then your best bet is a gtx660(non ti) for around 230 and a new psu(like xfx 550w) for around 60 or 70. That takes you close to your limit, but will be
a HUGE upgrade for you in the graphics department. It's close to hd7870 and slightly better than the mild overclock hardocp gave their reference 7850.

Just don't expect miracles when you try to overclock the thing. Actually, when you turn on physx you will eat away at some of the potential frame rate
from the card that might otherwise not be expressed due to potential limitations imposed by your cpu. That only applies to the handful of games using
physx on the market now or in the near future. If you can live without physx, you can go with either a 7850(180) or 7870(230) and new psu. Up to you.
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otakubr said:
Nice deal you guys made, hate taxes and all the other factors. 50% on eletronics is BULLSHIT man
50% holy crap :ouch:  :pfff: 
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I had just walked out the door of the apartment building when a thought occurred to me(should have happened sooner). The tdp of gtx660 is under
150w. I think most(if not all) models have only 1 6pin connector. You should be ok with one of those without needing to get a new psu. Based on
that, you can spend 230 on gtx660(if you really want/need bl2/physx) or spend 180 on a 7850 that will overclock to that level or even higher.
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