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November 21, 2012 3:50:41 PM

Hello everybody,

My ~4 year old trusty computer isn’t so trusty anymore. The graphics cards have been acting up for a while, so i’m thinking it might be time for me to get a whole new computer. I’m not really in a rush to buy a new one, but looking at all this is getting me all excited. I’d probably want to buy the new build before Jan ‘13(probably well before that, and perhaps even within the next couple of weeks, but in theory, i could wait until Jan ‘13 if that makes a difference with upcoming releases, CES 13 etc - unless my current computer dies before that).

Here my current list with danish prices and links:
Case:
Fractal Design Define Mini (considered the R4 as well, but thought i’d give a mATX build a try since I’ve wanted to try something smaller for a while)
686 DKKR
http://www.edbpriser.dk/kabinet/fractal-design-define-m...

Graphics:
Nvidia GeForce 670
~2900 DKKR
http://www.edbpriser.dk/hardware/grafikkort.aspx?q=Nvid...
(not exactly sure which one specifically i should chose from this search link)

Processor:
Intel Core i5-3450
1364 DKKR
http://www.edbpriser.dk/processor/core-i5-i5-3450-6-mb-...
or
Intel Core i5 3570K
1610 DKKR
http://www.edbpriser.dk/processor/core-i5-i5-3570k-6-mb...
and
CPU Cooling:
Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo
251 DKKR
http://www.edbpriser.dk/processorkoeling/cooler-master-...

Memory:
G.Skill Ripjaws X f4-17000 16GB RAM
984 DKKR
http://www.edbpriser.dk/ram/gskill-ripjaws-x-4-x-4-gb-i...

Motherboard:
Gigabyte's G1.Sniper M3
1109 DKKR
http://www.edbpriser.dk/bundkort/gigabyte-g1sniper-m3-i...

Storage:
Crucial M4 256 GB SSD
1385 DKKR
http://www.edbpriser.dk/ssd-solid-state-drive/crucial-m...

WD Green 2TB
729 DKKR
http://www.edbpriser.dk/harddisk/wd-green-wd20earx-2-tb...

Powersupply:
Sea Sonic M12II-850Bronze
999 DKKR
http://www.edbpriser.dk/stroemforsyning/sea-sonic-m12ii...

This link link here pretty much shows what above links show as well, only not exactly the same specific parts and dealers i’d buy from(remember, i’m from denmark, so i’d prolly buy from danish vendors to ensure i won’t run into support/warranty issues):
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/oDu4

All of these things I’ve found based on stuff I’ve read here on tomshardware and goes a little bit above my budget of 10.000 DK KR(~1700 USD) (10.653 is the total of this(with i5 3570K and the cooler) build based on the price of danish sites).

I’m not quite sure if I’ll get the Intel Core i5-3450 or Intel Core i5 3570K. Because i'm not really sure if i'll actually end up overclocking and all that. Supposedly it lowers the lifetime of the cpu, and i'm not sure if i need that extra power. What's your input on this, is it definetly worth the extra price to get the 3570K(and thus the extra cooler) and definitely worth it to get that extra OC power?

Anyone who can tell me with certainty if the Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo will fit together with all these choices especially in regards to spacing in the Fractal Design Define Mini? (According to the Define Mini’s specs it can handle ca 160 mm CPU cooler, while the 212 Evo says its 159 mm, which is why it would be awesome to see a picture or something, where it all fits, cus its gonna be tight if it can actually fit!)

With this build i'm trying to go silent without going all in money-wise to get it completely silent. Anyone who can say if any of these parts would make the build notably noisier and perhaps even suggest alternatives that would work with this build?

I’d like to be able to play games (current and ones a bit further out in the future) at the best options. But i’ll also be using this computer for programming, the occasional photo editing and ofc the usual casual computer stuff (web browsing, watching movies and so on), which prolly isnt that power demanding.
But most of all, i want this computer to be future proof and last as long as possible without needing an upgrade.

Should i go for a cheaper PSU with less watts, or is it a good idea to get the Sea Sonic M12II-850Bronze ?

Seems like Gigabyte's G1.Sniper M3 would allow for a SLI configuration, if i (even thought i seriously doubt it) ever should want to put in another Nvidia GeForce 670.

Just FYI i’m currently running with two monitors, 1x 1920x1200 and 1x 1280x1024. In the future i’d very likely want to expand this to the 4 monitors the GeFore 670 supports, but right now i can’t afford and thus don’t want to focus on new monitors.

So to sum it up:
Will everything fit together in the Define mini?
Is it a future proof build?
Would i be glad i bought the more expensive CPU and after-market cooler and overclocked it?
Will be build be quiet?
Just to be sure: Will i have any problems going with Windows 8 with this build, or will everything support it, boot as fast as Win8 is supposedly able to and work with it perfectly? (it does say Win8 ready on gigabytes site)

Its not possible to user monitors directly connected to the motherboard, while using the graphics card at the same time, correct?

Any other comments or suggestions are most welcome!

Thanks for taking the time to help me out and guide me in the right direction :) 

/Chris
November 21, 2012 4:38:30 PM

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Will everything fit together in the Define mini?
Is it a future proof build?
Would i be glad i bought the more expensive CPU and after-market cooler and overclocked it?
Will be build be quiet?
Just to be sure: Will i have any problems going with Windows 8 with this build, or will everything support it, boot as fast as Win8 is supposedly able to and work with it perfectly? (it does say Win8 ready on gigabytes site)


Its not possible to user monitors directly connected to the motherboard, while using the graphics card at the same time, correct?


1. Yes.

2. There's no such thing as completely future proofing a build, but this should last at least 3 years before an upgrade is needed.

3. See below.

4. Should be for the most part, Fractal Design makes good cases.

5. No, I've been running Windows 8 just fine and having no problems with it.

6. I've been told you can use both, but I don't know how accurate my sources are. On most boards if a GPU is enabled it will disable the onboard GPU by default and vice versa.

Quote:
I’m not quite sure if I’ll get the Intel Core i5-3450 or Intel Core i5 3570K. Because i'm not really sure if i'll actually end up overclocking and all that. Supposedly it lowers the lifetime of the cpu, and i'm not sure if i need that extra power. What's your input on this, is it definetly worth the extra price to get the 3570K(and thus the extra cooler) and definitely worth it to get that extra OC power?


If you're not going to overclock go with the 3470 (3450 has been discontinued). Whether or not you want to overclock depends on what you really want to do with your system. Gaming will see some benefit, applications will not.

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Seems like Gigabyte's G1.Sniper M3 would allow for a SLI configuration, if i (even thought i seriously doubt it) ever should want to put in another Nvidia GeForce 670.


Most mATX boards it will be a tight fit but should be doable.
November 21, 2012 4:51:09 PM

Awesome g-unit1111! So from my understanding, you're basically saying that what I've put together looks good, and that the CPU decision lies in how much gaming I'll be doing. Right now i'm thinking i might just throw the extra few money after that i5 3570K just to have the possibility, should i need a bit more power. But thank you for mentioning the better alternative, were i to go the no OC way :) 

You wouldnt by any chance know if theres rumours about gamechaning stuff being released soon? Wouldnt wanna go buy brand new stuff, only to be serverly outdated the following few months.

Thanks a bunch!
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