Can anyone do better for 400-450?

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Hello, i made build but i don't know how well it is good for my needs. First off all i will be mostly gaming and multitasking(when playing game have open internet with many pages, listen music etc...) I also don't want to change any component in this new build whatsoever for at least 3 years bare that in mind
So let's get on the point, here is build i made:

CPU: G860 3GHz -62 euros
MB: H61M-P20 -34 euros
GPU: HD7850 1GB -150 euros
RAM: 2x4GB -34 euros
HDD: 500GB -53 euros
PSU: Seasonic SS-400ET -40 euros
CASE: Something cheap for -25 euros
DVD/RW: Samsung SH-22 -15 euros
Total: 413 euros

I listed all parts i need here. I don't need: OS,Monitor,Keyboard,Mouse,Speakers. So can anyone do better for that particular money? It would be also great if i would go for quad-core but my budget don't allow it? What you think?
 
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your processor is really low end,
u SHOULD definitely go with mad fx-4170 or fx-4130 it is a quad core!!
and a complimentary mobo. and therefore future-proof.
a pentium is really bad, dont take it.
and what resolution r u playing at??
 
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The G860 is better than the FX -Bulldozer line at games. It's not more future proof. =(

It's a common notion that more cores = better gaming performance.

Its not.
 
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what about multitasking while playing games.
i know that right now (more cores = better gaming performance) is not
the case but a quad core(dosent matter which one) is still better than the pentium.
and the amd FX-4170 is a close competitor to the i3-2120!
this website has compared both of their gaming performance and 4100 was just a little behind the i3.
the FX-4170 is better than pentium, the only dual core that can beat it is the i3.
 
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What is final decision guys? Should i go Intel CPU that i mentioned or FX? I'm playing at 1080p and are you sure that 400W can handle it?? If you think that you want to change something just create whole new build for 450 euros and i will look at every opinion. Thanks for answers
 
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How much FPS i will get in Battlefield 3 multiplayer with G860,8GB RAM and HD7770?
Also what is cheapest mobo that can support G860 and CrossfireX so i can get one HD7770 now and one later. Would that be good? Can 400W handle it? Or i should just get one HD7850 1GB and thats all? Thanks
 
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a 400W cant handle a 7850 u need a good 550W for that.
forget upgrading ur mobo and then getting a crossfire 7770.
get a good 550W psu and then buy a 7850, the best option.
 
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Please that's for non-true rated PSUs.

A good 400w especially a seasonic can power up an 7850. Just google it.

You're full of talk but you don't know what you're talking about
 
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Then what about SS-500ET it is 20 euros more. I will be probably overclocking GPU because its free and it gives little boost so why not :). If i overclock 7850 it will be like 7870 performance right?
 
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yeah it's true that AMD's requirements are a little high than required, but a 500W is just safer........
a good enough 500W is not that expensive than a 400W that u r buying.
your PSU will work with 7850 but getting getting a 500W is better in many ways.
overclocking, future room for upgrading, like crossfire etc.
and over-clocking the 7850 will not be exactly like a 7870, but will come close
 
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The 7850 is going to pull 130W at absolute max, and probably rarely at that; I think they like to sit in the 80W range. The G860 is 65W, that leaves ~200W for the rest of the system, I'd be surprised if it pulls more than 100W altogether between the memory, mobo, HDD, and optical. A low quality PSU with more noise/higher deviation from the stated output would be suspect to blackouts when pulling close to max; a high-quality one should handle it just fine. For comparison, my lanbox runs a G620 and HD6770 with no problems on an Antec 380W.

The thing I would worry about is your planned usage, especially if you don't want to upgrade for three years. Granted, my pentium is clocked a bit lower, but I have some difficulty multi-tasking of any sort; it's perfect for doing one or two things at a time, and runs the games I want perfectly, but I notice huge hangs if I open firefox/chrome or itunes while I'm playing. It's a perfect CPU for gaming as it has the legs to keep up with a lot of cards and I just wanted something cheap for my mobile box, but if you want to game+anything else simultaneously, you might run into some frustrations.

How much more over budget would you hit if you went to the core i3? Get a Sandy Bridge for a bit cheaper, you don't need the upgraded graphics; the hyper-threading will indeed help with multitasking and keep you comfortable for a few years.
 
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This is the PC if i go for i3:
CPU: i3-3220 -98 euros
MB: H61M-P20 -34 euros
GPU: HD7850 1GB -150 euros
RAM: 2x4GB -34 euros
HDD: 500GB -53 euros
PSU: Seasonic SS-400ET -40 euros
CASE: Something cheap for -25 euros
DVD/RW: Samsung SH-22 -15 euros
Total: 439 euros
And can you suggest me a build for 300-340 euros? If i can't get 450 euros i will be at 340 max for sure( i have 300 now) I was thinking of this for 300-340 euros:

CPU: G860 3GHz -62 euros
MB: H61M-P20 -34 euros
GPU: HD7770 1GB -106 euros
RAM: 2x4GB -34 euros
HDD: 500GB -53 euros
PSU: Seasonic SS-400ET -40 euros
CASE -25 euros
DVD/RW: Samsung SH-22 -15 euros
This will be 369 but how can i lower it to like 340 or so? I could grab 2x2GB and a G540 CPU which will lead me to 326 euros. Opinions?
 
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What website/store are you using?

EDIT: You could trim some of your budget off the PSU; seasonic is fantastic, but very expensive, I usually go with Antec as they're still high quality PSUs but a little more budget-oriented. Perhaps the Antec VP-450 would be a good fit if it can shave off ~10 euros or more, plus you'd have a bit more power for headroom if that was ever a concern. The HD 7770 is a good fit for that lower budget. For your budget, it might be worthwhile getting a full compliment of 8gb RAM but at a slower clock, something like DDR3-1333; you'll find more performance from more memory at a slower speed than less memory at a higher speed for what you are wanting to do with it.

And to add some salt to my earlier post- the G860 Pentium won't fail completely at multitasking those things, I was probably being a bit spoiled. I remember playing World in Conflict and running iTunes on a Pentium 4, so really you would be fine playing with much better architecture than that, you just might see a hiccup or two while doing so. So for a more limited budget, it is a grand fit and I really do love the performance of my lanbox for the price I put into it; I was more pointing out that if you had some budget headroom, your multitasking life would be much happier upgrading to a hyper-threaded CPU.
 
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