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November 22, 2012 6:02:43 AM

My very first client gave me a hard budget of $600 for her computer build, it's a gaming PC going toward her son. I don't want her son disappointed as it's a major Christmas gift, but I'm having trouble cutting the PC's cost from $640 to $600. It'd only cost $560 if I didn't have to factor in Windows 8, but unfortunately that's $85.

Here are the parts I've chosen:

Mobo http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0056G10WK/
CPU and DVD drive, going with a Phenom II 955 black edition for the great price-to-performance ratio.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
500w PSU http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
8gb RAM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
EVGA 650 TI GPU http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
500gb HDD www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006YLVD50/
Antec 302 Case http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006TVQTHW/
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO CPU Cooler http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005O65JXI/ref=ox_sc_a...
Windows 8 http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0094NY3R0/ref=ox_sc_a...
Arctic Silver thermal compound http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0002VFXFE/ref=ox_sc_a...

I've shopped around, these are pretty much the best deals I can locate in this price range without having to go for any really low-quality components. If I go for a Radeon HD 7750 it'd cost only $600 total with room for upgrades, but I don't think she'd want to upgrade her son's PC any time soon and I don't want him to be disappointed in the PC's performance when he gets it. Plus, the 650 TI comes with Assassin's Creed 3, I'm sure she'd appreciate having an extra gift to throw toward her son. He's going to play games on a 1080p HDTV normally, I can recommend he not use anti-aliasing so there's less of a performance hit but I'm just not sure a 7750 would be sufficient for his needs.

Side-note: I'm pretty sure all these parts are compatible, but I'm not completely certain. If you guys find anything that doesn't go together, I'd appreciate you telling me.

Thanks for potential help, I'd really appreciate it.

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November 22, 2012 6:07:10 AM

This build sucks, no offense.

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November 22, 2012 6:11:08 AM
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i3-3220 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor ($114.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: MSI Z77A-G41 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: HIS Radeon HD 7770 1GB Video Card ($114.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 431 Plus (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($15.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($87.28 @ CompUSA)
Total: $502.19
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-11-22 03:10 EST-0500)
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November 22, 2012 6:11:22 AM

cutebeans said:
This build sucks, no offense.

Well it's not like I had much money to work with; I had to go with a few lower-quality components just to try to lower the price. If I only had $600 to put toward a PC of my own I'd probably stick with an integrated GPU until I could upgrade, but oh well. Does it suck because of compatibility issues or bottlenecking, anything like that, or does it just suck because it's not exactly high-end? :/ 
November 22, 2012 6:14:39 AM

What are you talking about? $500 is a lot to make a decent gaming build.
November 22, 2012 6:18:22 AM

this isn't a high powered build, drop the thermal paste and cpu cooler. the stock cooler and paste should work fine. that saves about $37.
November 22, 2012 6:21:39 AM

cutebeans said:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i3-3220 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor ($114.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: MSI Z77A-G41 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: HIS Radeon HD 7770 1GB Video Card ($114.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 431 Plus (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($15.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($87.28 @ CompUSA)
Total: $502.19
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-11-22 03:10 EST-0500)


I'm not really interested in dealing with rebates, but overall you've made some great recommendations. I'm not too sure a 7770 would be sufficient for his needs, though, and games optimized for more than two cores would perform better with a similarly-priced AMD quad-core, right? I should've made it clear I wasn't going to stick with the 955, it was the only placeholder part I hadn't decided on. I was gonna look into the best around-$100 CPU for the build, sorry for the confusion.

Overall, thanks for the help so far. Your case, RAM and HDD recommendations have already put the budget below $600, but any more bones you can throw my way would be appreciated.
November 22, 2012 6:21:45 AM

No friend. He shouldn't build his build. It's terrible in every way. =(

No offense to you, FaceLord.
November 22, 2012 6:28:04 AM

cutebeans said:
No friend. He shouldn't build his build. It's terrible in every way. =(

No offense to you, FaceLord.

Definitely a little offended, but eh, I'm new. My main concern with your build is the i3, would that really be sufficient for games like Battlefield 3? If so, that's amazing. Also, if I were to go for a higher-end GPU like the 650 Ti would the PSU you selected be able to handle that as well? :v

Getting schooled is eye-opening. ;w;
November 22, 2012 6:30:01 AM

Facelord said:
I'm not really interested in dealing with rebates, but overall you've made some great recommendations. I'm not too sure a 7770 would be sufficient for his needs, though, and games optimized for more than two cores would perform better with a similarly-priced AMD quad-core, right? I should've made it clear I wasn't going to stick with the 955, it was the only placeholder part I hadn't decided on. I was gonna look into the best around-$100 CPU for the build, sorry for the confusion.

Overall, thanks for the help so far. Your case, RAM and HDD recommendations have already put the budget below $600, but any more bones you can throw my way would be appreciated.


i3 3220 would be the better one than the 955 and the i3 3220 will beat anything AMD quad core you throw at it in gaming.

Your PSU is crap never get Coolermaster PSU.
November 22, 2012 6:31:38 AM

Facelord said:
Definitely a little offended, but eh, I'm new. My main concern with your build is the i3, would that really be sufficient for games like Battlefield 3? If so, that's amazing. Also, if I were to go for a higher-end GPU like the 650 Ti would the PSU you selected be able to handle that as well? :v

Getting schooled is eye-opening. ;w;


Just get the 7770. Don't worry, it's going to handle a lot of games fine. You sacrifice a lot of parts just to get a 650ti.

Sorry bro, your parts list isn't really good. Didn't want to offend you but didn't know how to say it better.
November 22, 2012 6:38:13 AM

cutebeans said:
i3 3220 would be the better one than the 955 and the i3 3220 will beat anything AMD quad core you throw at it in gaming.

Your PSU is crap never get Coolermaster PSU.

Thank you very much, I appreciate all the help. Seriously. I'm definitely going with most of the stuff you've recommended; not completely sure about the GPU, but overall I'm definitely impressed to hear about the i3.

I wouldn't wanna deal with rebates and that makes the 7770 only $5 cheaper than the 650 Ti which trounces it in benchmarks, plus the 650 Ti comes with Assassin's Creed 3- a Christmas gift on top of a Christmas gift. Suggestions?

Update: Sorry, I might just go ahead with the 7770. I'll shop around and see if I can find it with any extras, thank you so much for your help. Very eye-opening.
November 22, 2012 6:46:01 AM

No problem. I have been doing this for a while. Haven't seen a cheap 650ti.

Never get NVIDIA right now though. There's nothing that AMD can't beat.
November 22, 2012 6:54:09 AM

cutebeans said:
No problem. I have been doing this for a while. Haven't seen a cheap 650ti.

Never get NVIDIA right now though. There's nothing that AMD can't beat.

I'm certainly not an Nvidia fan(that's illogical), but in price-to-performance the 650 Ti beats the 7770. Also, your build ended up being $630 without rebates factored in. That... kinda ruined the point, but at least it's a more solid, stable build. If I'm gonna spend my own money on the build, I definitely hope all of the rebates are honored. I've never dealt with rebates before, do you think these'll be honored? :<

For the record, my builders' fee isn't factored into the budget. I'm doing it for $50(pretty much pro-bono), so maybe I can just ask if she'd be fine with me just dealing with the rebates as my payment.
November 22, 2012 6:57:23 AM

You can actually just get a G860 and H61 motherboard so that it'll go down a bit.

It still plays like a champ. $630 after sales tax?
November 22, 2012 7:01:56 AM

cutebeans said:
You can actually just get a G860 and H61 motherboard so that it'll go down a bit.

It still plays like a champ. $630 after sales tax?

Ha, the processor price difference is $50, that's more than sufficient. Do you think this mobo would be good enough for the G860 and 7770/650Ti?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

You have no idea how much appreciate this, man, you seriously rock.
November 22, 2012 7:03:53 AM

cbag said:
if you can get 650ti for same price get the 650 ti it beats 7770 by at least 10% sometimes 30%

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6359/the-nvidia-geforce-g...

If it's possible to go with the much cheaper CPU and mobo combo he just mentioned without the 650 Ti running into compatibility issues, that'd be awesome; as I've said before though, I'm second-guessing myself hardcore right now.

Update: I mean, the cheaper mobo I'm eying has a PCI Express 3.0 x16 slot; pretty sure that's all I need to know, since the 650 Ti is a one-slot card.
November 22, 2012 7:28:13 AM

No. The 650ti is crap. The 7850 owns it.

Don't get the 650ti.

The 7850 is the best, although if the kid plays WoW then we have a problem.
November 22, 2012 7:35:27 AM

cutebeans said:
No. The 650ti is crap. The 7850 owns it.

Don't get the 650ti.

The 7850 is the best, although if the kid plays WoW then we have a problem.

The 7850 is $30+ more expensive than the 650 Ti, just out of our price range. The 650 Ti kicks the crap out of the 7770 in performance benchmarks and it's currently at the same price. The 7770 isn't quite good enough for his needs and the 7850 is out of our price range.

You've been very helpful, but it's almost starting to sound like you're an ATi fan. My 6850's served me well for quite a while, but I'm just looking at price-to-performance and value here.

Update: Hahaha, I messed around with the budget a bit and he CAN get a 7850.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Would you recommend I use a different power supply or stick with the 430w one you recommended, Cutebeans?
November 22, 2012 8:05:19 AM

Facelord said:
The 7850 is $30+ more expensive than the 650 Ti, just out of our price range. The 650 Ti kicks the crap out of the 7770 in performance benchmarks and it's currently at the same price. The 7770 isn't quite good enough for his needs and the 7850 is out of our price range.

You've been very helpful, but it's almost starting to sound like you're an ATi fan. My 6850's served me well for quite a while, but I'm just looking at price-to-performance and value here.

Update: Hahaha, I messed around with the budget a bit and he CAN get a 7850.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Would you recommend I use a different power supply or stick with the 430w one you recommended, Cutebeans?


Where are you looking with your prices?? I'm looking at newegg O_O. They are mostly the same price.

430w can easily power a 7850. Anyway, if the kid plays WOW. Don't get a 7850.

I'm not an AMD fan -__-. I'm a fan of value/performance.
November 22, 2012 8:10:47 AM

cutebeans said:
Where are you looking with your prices?? I'm looking at newegg O_O. They are mostly the same price.

430w can easily power a 7850. Anyway, if the kid plays WOW. Don't get a 7850.

I'm not an AMD fan -__-. I'm a fan of value/performance.

I don't know why you're bringing up WoW, is it because it's so easy to run? He's more into games like Assassin's Creed and Battlefield, I'm sure he'll wanna play graphics-intensive games.

I was also looking at Newegg, maybe they have regional prices? Oh well, we're going with the 7850. I'll post my final selections here, if you see anything wrong with it you can say something(if you'd like). Either way, I'm almost certainly picking your answer as the "best answer," you deserve it.

Mo http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
RAM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
PSU http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GPU http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
HDD http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Case http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
DVD drive http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
CPU http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005LLBBSS/
Windows 8 http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0094NY3R0/

November 22, 2012 8:19:31 AM

Facelord said:
I don't know why you're bringing up WoW, is it because it's so easy to run? He's more into games like Assassin's Creed and Battlefield, I'm sure he'll wanna play graphics-intensive games.

I was also looking at Newegg, maybe they have regional prices? Oh well, we're going with the 7850. I'll post my final selections here, if you see anything wrong with it you can say something(if you'd like). Either way, I'm almost certainly picking your answer as the "best answer," you deserve it.

Mo http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
RAM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
PSU http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GPU http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
HDD http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Case http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
DVD drive http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
CPU http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005LLBBSS/
Windows 8 http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0094NY3R0/


The 7800 series has problems with WoW. =( If he won't be playing then that's good.

No worries. This is what I enjoy doing as a hobby.
November 22, 2012 8:31:05 AM

cutebeans said:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GET THIS. CHEAPER and FREE SHIP.

I generally trust EVGA and Sapphire over the other card brands, but eh. $14 is $14. Thanks for your help, I'll order the parts now.

Oxford, thanks for taking the time to post a build list of your own but I'm not too keen on the PSU and I've decided to go for the 1155 mobo and G860 instead- partially because my client could upgrade it to an i5 or i7 in the future if she'd like. I appreciate you putting the time into posting that.

You, Cutebeans, I appreciate your help doubly so. It's wonderful that people would jump to help out a stranger like this, you've definitely left a good impression.
November 22, 2012 8:44:18 AM

Best answer selected by Facelord.
November 22, 2012 8:44:37 AM

No problem. Hope the parts are all ok.
November 22, 2012 9:06:17 AM

cutebeans said:
No problem. Hope the parts are all ok.

Marry me.
November 22, 2012 9:19:58 AM

I'm a guy -__-
November 22, 2012 9:45:16 AM

cutebeans said:
I'm a guy -__-

I was joking. :>
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