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a b U Graphics card
September 27, 2012 12:14:09 PM

I have a i5-760 with GA-m55-D2h motherboard

Current gpu is Gt430 gpoing to ugrade soon.

GPU in consideration are Gtx 570 vs 7850 vs Gtx 660

Price which i am getting is INR zotac Gtx 570-18000 VS MSI 7850- 16200 VS Asus gtx 660 18800

Which would be the better option & also which psu to be bought
a c 185 U Graphics card
September 27, 2012 1:48:00 PM

The 660 get's my vote go for that.
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September 27, 2012 1:58:58 PM

defiantly The GTX 660 bro
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a c 185 U Graphics card
September 27, 2012 2:16:46 PM

Total Power Supply Wattage is NOT the crucial factor in power supply selection! Total Combined Continuous Power/Current Available on the +12V Rail(s) @ 50°C ambient temperature, is the most important factor.If you can give me a link of where you'll buy i can help you pick a power supply mate.
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September 28, 2012 1:49:23 AM

bigcyco1 said:
Total Power Supply Wattage is NOT the crucial factor in power supply selection! Total Combined Continuous Power/Current Available on the +12V Rail(s) @ 50°C ambient temperature, is the most important factor.If you can give me a link of where you'll buy i can help you pick a power supply mate.



current dimensions are 150 x 140 x 86 mm..

the ones you selected are (respectively);
150 x 86 x 160 mm
150 x 86 x 160 mm
150 x 86 x 140 mm

will they fit the case?



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a b U Graphics card
September 28, 2012 3:00:36 AM

akshayghai29785 said:
I have a i5-760 with GA-m55-D2h motherboard

Current gpu is Gt430 gpoing to ugrade soon.

GPU in consideration are Gtx 570 vs 7850 vs Gtx 660

Price which i am getting is INR zotac Gtx 570-18000 VS MSI 7850- 16200 VS Asus gtx 660 18800

Which would be the better option & also which psu to be bought


Get the gtx 660 and overclock you cpu!
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a c 109 U Graphics card
September 28, 2012 3:04:25 AM

He doesn't need to OC his CPU.
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a c 185 U Graphics card
September 28, 2012 3:17:52 AM

jaggudada said:
current dimensions are 150 x 140 x 86 mm..

the ones you selected are (respectively);
150 x 86 x 160 mm
150 x 86 x 160 mm
150 x 86 x 140 mm

will they fit the case?
l what one do you mean how am i suppose to know i need to know what power supply your talking about bud
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September 28, 2012 3:25:18 AM

currently only 7 or 8 games support PhysX, so going AMD with your upgrade will save you your money, but i do agree the 660 is a strong card, and based on those few games that support the PhysX you will see the most out of them with the 660, but with the AMD those few games will be slower. Battlefield3, COD(all) don't have PhysX usage and their performance would be fairly similar. A few FPS more or less, Battlefield3 is optimized for AMD builds, therefore if you are a Battlefield player then i recommend AMD.
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September 28, 2012 11:50:55 AM

I would like to clear something guys… I think he is referring to GTX 660 (not the GTX 660 Ti) model…
Is the performance of GTX 660 better than that of 7850??
Pls share some thoughts in this regard, since I was also planning on upgrading to a 7850…
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September 28, 2012 7:03:48 PM

i would still like to know what it is he intends to use these for, cuz if he lists any of the handful of PhysX using games then yeah go for the nVidia, if he isn't than the nVidia would be under used.

If anything you are going to play finds a place here more than 2 times then i suggest going with nVidia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_games_with_hardwar...

if not then just save the money and go with AMD.
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a b U Graphics card
September 28, 2012 7:49:29 PM

amuffin said:
He doesn't need to OC his CPU.


He has a first generation Intel i5 CPU @ 2.8 Ghz, He will see higher framerates with a higher cpu clock ;) 
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September 28, 2012 7:54:23 PM

Go for GTx 660
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September 28, 2012 8:20:17 PM

maxh22 said:
He has a first generation Intel i5 CPU @ 2.8 Ghz, He will see higher framerates with a higher cpu clock ;) 


amuffin is right, 2.8Ghz is fine still
i seen Black Ops played at 55FPS on a 2.4Ghz, that was my first build too....

GAURAV9822 said:
Go for GTx 660


the GTX660 would be a waste of money if he isn't using the PhysX aspect of it.
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a b U Graphics card
September 28, 2012 8:22:07 PM

Kamikazi2142 said:
amuffin is right, 2.8Ghz is fine still
i seen Black Ops played at 55FPS on a 2.4Ghz, that was my first build too....



the GTX660 would be a waste of money if he isn't using the PhysX aspect of it.


Well that's black ops lol. Honestly it depends on the games he plays.

If he plays cpu intensive games like bf3 he would want to overclock his cpu.
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September 28, 2012 8:32:51 PM

that may be true but...
If he wants to play BF3 then the GTX 660 Ti would be under used and a waste of money to power used etc etc....

Both Models below are 2GB versions:

EVGA SuperClocked GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB
Cores: 1344 CUDA cores - Best for PhysX processing capabilities.
192-bit Memory = SLOW
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HIS Radeon HD 7850 IceQ X Turbo 2GB
Cores: 1024 Stream Processors - Best overall performance
256-bit Memory = FAST
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

of the two cards listed i would go with the 7850 by HIS best bang for your buck with AMD cards in my opinion comes from HIS.
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a b U Graphics card
September 29, 2012 8:47:26 AM

then what about gtx570 with 320 bit
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a c 185 U Graphics card
September 29, 2012 9:40:55 AM



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Uploaded with ImageShack.us The GTX 660 looked sharp in Battlefield 3, averaging 51fps at 1920x1200, matching the HD 7870 and beating the 7850 by a convincing 21% margin, though it was 15% slower than the GTX 660 Ti.

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Uploaded with ImageShack.us The GTX 660 managed 39fps at 1920x1200 in Aliens vs. Predator and Gigabyte's factory-overclocked setting didn't deliver any extra performance. Nevertheless, Nvidia's new card was 11% faster than the HD 7850, only 7% slower than the HD 7870 and 3% slower than the GTX 660 Ti. It also smoked the old GTX 560 Ti by a 22% margin.

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a c 185 U Graphics card
September 29, 2012 9:55:47 AM

QUOTE: With the Kepler architecture gradually cascading down into lower price points, it was only a matter of time until a new card was released to compete for the hearts and minds of budget-conscious buyers who still want adequate performance. The GTX 660 Ti may have introduced NVIDIA’s updated initiatives and feature sets to a broader range of gamers and yet the mid range $199 to $249 bracket is what usually makes or breaks a GPU family. Currently, AMD’s Pitcairn-based HD 7850 and HD 7870 enjoy a position of nearly unchallenged leadership within this highly popular segment but after the successes of previous GTX 600-series products, NVIDIA was well positioned to offer something of their own. The result is the GeForce GTX 660, a card whose $229 sticker price may not be quite as inexpensive as some hoped but it has proven to be more competitive than we initially expected.

Typically, graphics cards that hit a magical $199 to $249 “sweet spot” either play things safe by not competing with cards above them in a product stack or (as with the GTX 460 and 8800 GT) they go on to be genre defining products which are talked about for years afterwards. The GTX 660 2GB achieves neither of these two extremes. Rather, it strides somewhere within the grey space between safe and legendary by providing surprisingly good performance without costing a dime over $230. This may be a disappointment for anyone waiting for the 8800 GT’s Second Coming but it makes perfectly good sense when compared directly against the rest of NVIDIA’s current lineup.

Uploaded with ImageShack.us Before this review goes on to talk about actual performance, let’s put the current mid-range offerings into perspective. AMD’s HD 7950, HD 7870 GHz Edition and HD 7850 have recently gone under the price cutter’s knife and are now available for $319, $249 and $199 (before rebates) respectively according to AMD’s latest information. The online average price for reference clocked versions of these three cards is $321 / $255 / $207 so AMD’s board partners seem to be keeping things well in hand. Additionally, for a limited time, the HD 7870 and HD 7950 also come bundled with a download code for the game Sleeping Dogs. Meanwhile, NVIDIA’s own GTX 560 Ti goes for about $205 while the recently released GTX 660 Ti sits at $299 or thereabouts.

With each of these card’s prices in mind, we can start coming to some clearly defined conclusions. NVIDIA’s GTX 660 puts the GTX 560 Ti to shame in every benchmark and can likely match a GTX 570’s framerates. But even though it provides significant advantages –both framerate and feature-wise- over the previous generation’s price / performance champ, we doubt most GTX 560 Ti users will be running out to buy a GTX 660 when it launches. Rather, NVIDIA is targeting their latest creation at anyone still using a GTX 460 or 8800 GT / 9800 GT, and with good reason since the in-game benefits from the Kepler architecture are massive.

Recent purchasers of the GTX 660 Ti don’t have anything to worry about either since their card maintains a comfortable lead over the GTX 660. Ironically, situations which are directly impacted by ROP to shader ratios or memory bandwidth cause the GTX 660 Ti and GTX 660 to usually perform within spitting distance of one another. The higher end product still maintains a firm grip on pole position, albeit a very small one from time to time.

Against AMD’s cards the GTX 660 is almost untouchable from a value standpoint, particularly when using a 1920 x 1080 or 1920 x 1200 display. At those resolutions, it runs dead even with the more expensive HD 7870 and significantly outpaces the 10% cheaper HD 7850. There is a small performance drop-off at resolution and detail setting extremes but the difference is not enough to sway our opinion in any way. But make no mistake about it, with a few well timed and minimal reductions, the HD 7870 could become a very serious threat to the GTX 660's newfound position.

The GTX 660 doesn’t break any of the predetermined molds which define performance increases from one generation to the next, nor did NVIDIA really blaze a new path on the cost front either. However, this launch will likely cause AMD to rethink their HD 7850 and HD 7870 strategies. In many ways, the 660 may be a slightly “safe” graphics card which won’t drastically shake up the market but it does provide a very real alternative to the now overpriced Radeon products.

One area which showed some interesting results was power consumption. While the GTX 660 2GB is a frugal card (particularly in a head to head comparison with the GTX 560 Ti), our tests did find the HD 7870 needed slightly less operational power. Again, this results will likely vary from one situation to the next depending upon core utilization and a number of other points but it should be quite obvious that AMD and NVIDIA have made some huge strides in the efficiency field.

Both the MSI and EVGA cards in this review will be available at launch for just $219, making for great value added propositions. Though EVGA does hold a slight edge in performance and warranty support, MSI surges ahead when temperatures and acoustics are taken into account. The choice between these two products will likely come down to brand preference since each provide a phenomenal gaming experience without charging a premium. We’d highly recommend either one even though they only add 3-7% to in-game framerates. More importantly, both of these GTX 660s showed plenty of overclocking poise which allowed them to match and in some cases surpass the GTX 660 Ti with minimal effort on the end user’s part.

The GTX 660 isn’t quite a game changer but it offers enough performance to satisfy the vast majority of gamers and its mere presence will likely cause mid-tier graphics card prices to reach new levels of affordability. Many were hoping that Kepler would finally hit the $199 price point but that hasn't quite happened, nor will it happen anytime soon unless the GTX 660 receives a price cut. But until then, the GTX 660’s accessible price, relatively high performance and wide-ranging feature set should have a profound impact upon the PC gaming market. Source: http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-r...
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