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September 28, 2012 2:37:47 AM

So guys I have always wanted to get an Nvidia gtx 560 ti, because i've heard its worth the money and its good. Then the new version comes out the 660 TI, is the 660 Ti worth getting it because it comes with borderlands 2 worth 60$ so it's 240$ price for the card at the end. BTW i prefer nvidia than radeon.

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September 28, 2012 2:46:09 AM

Yup if you're looking to buy BL2 anyways, the 660ti is a great deal.
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September 28, 2012 2:46:27 AM

I think the 660ti is overpriced. Maybe it's a good value with the free game, but I don't like RPG games, so Borderlands is useless to me and doesn't knock down the price.

You could look into the 660 non ti.
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September 28, 2012 2:52:50 AM

I personally prefer Nvidia over AMD as well, but I have to say the GTX 660 Ti isn't really that great. If you can spend around $10 - 20 more, the HD 7950 is also a great choice either. Great overclocker, and more memory bandwidth (GTX 660 Ti's memory bandwidth is really bad, you will notice a HUGE FPS decrease when you turn on AA).
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September 28, 2012 2:54:52 AM

Never mind on my last post. If you can get it for $240, that's a very great deal.
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September 28, 2012 2:55:29 AM

BigMack70 said:
Yup if you're looking to buy BL2 anyways, the 660ti is a great deal.


Coming from someone with a Gtx 670, I say get a 7950!
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September 28, 2012 2:55:35 AM

Problem is that a 660ti + BL2 is ~$300 while a 7950 + BL2 is ~$360.

The 660ti is overpriced for what it is, but if you're gonna buy the game anyways, the 660ti suddenly becomes far more attractive than AMD's options.
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September 28, 2012 2:55:56 AM

If you can afford the price point, then its a good deal. It's essentially faster than a GTX 580 for half the price they were when new.

Nvidia has filled out their Kepler lineup, so pick your price point and get the one you can afford. They are all reasonably priced in terms of their relative performance to each other. The 660 Ti is a little bit better deal than the 660 due to the free game, which the 660 doesn't come with.
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September 28, 2012 2:57:09 AM

envy14tpe said:
I think the 660ti is overpriced. Maybe it's a good value with the free game, but I don't like RPG games, so Borderlands is useless to me and doesn't knock down the price.

You could look into the 660 non ti.


Borderlands technically isn't a RPG. It has RPG like features with a skill tree to have a set of skills that apply and help your character, otherwise it's a FPS all the way.


OP: I agree with you, it's definitely worth it, especially with Borderlands 2. Borderlands 2 isn't really GPU orientated, it's definitely more CPU orientated, I myself was playing with a i5-2500k and a GTX 550 ti and I was able to play at my max native resolution(1680x1050) and with some high settings and a 60FPS minimum, never dipped, well maybe in new areas that had to load in ;) 

Here are some benchmarks:

Source: http://kotaku.com/5946267/borderlands-2-gpu--cpu-perfor...

GPU:
2560:1600: http://static.techspot.com/articles-info/577/bench/2560...
1920x1200: http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/1808g7mvout6qjpg/origin...
1680x1050: http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/1808g3343lenkjpg/origin...

PhysX(I don't know why there are AMD cards here? Hacked drivers?): http://static.techspot.com/articles-info/577/bench/Phys...

CPU(w/GTX 680): http://static.techspot.com/articles-info/577/bench/CPU1...

Very great game OP, if you are planning on buying it anyway then this is a great price for you.
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September 28, 2012 3:00:09 AM

echondo said:
PhysX(I don't know why there are AMD cards here? Hacked drivers?): http://static.techspot.com/articles-info/577/bench/Phys...


Because contra Nvidia's marketing you don't need an Nvidia card to run PhysX. You can run PhysX on an AMD setup, it just runs off the CPU instead of the GPU. In some games that means functionally you can't run PhysX without an Nvidia card (because the code is not optimized for and sometimes is intentionally crippled on the CPU), but that's not the case for Borderlands 2 - PhysX runs just fine on an AMD setup if you have a decent CPU.
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September 28, 2012 4:46:58 AM

17seconds said:
If you can afford the price point, then its a good deal. It's essentially faster than a GTX 580 for half the price they were when new.

Nvidia has filled out their Kepler lineup, so pick your price point and get the one you can afford. They are all reasonably priced in terms of their relative performance to each other. The 660 Ti is a little bit better deal than the 660 due to the free game, which the 660 doesn't come with.
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September 28, 2012 4:47:16 AM

BigMack70 said:
Problem is that a 660ti + BL2 is ~$300 while a 7950 + BL2 is ~$360.

The 660ti is overpriced for what it is, but if you're gonna buy the game anyways, the 660ti suddenly becomes far more attractive than AMD's options.
+1 good point
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September 28, 2012 4:55:51 AM

I would only buy. The ASUS GTX 660 Ti Direct CU II TOP or MSI's GTX 660 Ti Power Edition though but to each their own enjoy!
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September 28, 2012 2:36:40 PM

bigcyco1 said:
I would only buy. The ASUS GTX 660 Ti Direct CU II TOP or MSI's GTX 660 Ti Power Edition though but to each their own enjoy!


Which one exactly? I've heard Asus are good, but also that the Power Edition is best.
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September 28, 2012 3:04:19 PM

Should go for the EVGA 660 ti overclocked w/ 3gb of vram.
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September 28, 2012 3:14:31 PM

DarkOutlaw said:
Should go for the EVGA 660 ti overclocked w/ 3gb of vram.


That's a horrible, horrible, horrible idea. Literally no benefit to 3GB vram on that card. Most of the 3GB 660ti tests show the 3gb variant underperforming the 2GB variant.
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September 28, 2012 3:17:27 PM

The 660 Ti is a great buy and the MSI PE has "secret sauce" in their BIOS.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_660_Ti_Power...

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What I find surprising is that MSI's card is faster than many other GTX 660 Ti cards reviewed today even though it's running lower base and boost clocks..... It seems that MSI has added some secret sauce, no other board partner has, to their card's BIOS.


Asus's new BIOS on the DCII edition has also added this secret sauce and I expect other manufacturers to follow.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submi...|14-127-696^14-127-696-TS%2C14-127-697^14-127-697-TS

Here's how the 660 Ti PE stacks up versus other cards on a "cost per frame" basis

Guru3D uses the following games in their test suite: Hard Reset, COD-MW2, Far Cry 2, ANNO 1404, Metro 2033, ANNO 2070, BFBC2, BF3, Crysis 2, AvP, Lost Planet 2. Total fps (summing fps in each game @ 1920 x 1200) are tabulated below along with their cost in dollars per frame @ 1920 x 1200:

660 PE gets 851 fps for $300 at a cost of $0.35 per frame
7870 gets 701 fps for $280 at a cost of $0.40 per frame
670 DCII gets 999 fps for $420 at a cost of $0.42 per frame
670 gets 917 fps for $400 at a cost of $0.44 per frame
7950 gets 746 fps for $330 at a cost of $0.44 per frame
7970 DCII gets 924 fps for $415 at a cost of $0.45 per frame
680 DCII gets 1077 fps for $520 at a cost of $0.48 per frame
7970 gets 872 fps for $420 at a cost of $0.48 per frame
7970 GHz gets 952 fps for $470 at a cost of $0.49 per frame
680 gets 989 fps for $500 at a cost of $0.51 per frame
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September 28, 2012 3:23:20 PM

^^ I'm not even gonna bother correcting this anymore. :pfff: 
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September 28, 2012 8:05:40 PM

BigMack70 said:
^^ I'm not even gonna bother correcting this anymore. :pfff: 


So, I see you know about this and also I see you use Radeon. But I want Nvidia and I wanted the 560 Ti, but this 660 Ti came out and it's better, Should I get Asus or Power Edition. EVGA only has 1 fan :S that's the problem and 2gb of vram is enough right?
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September 28, 2012 8:30:01 PM

loresr97 said:
So, I see you know about this and also I see you use Radeon. But I want Nvidia and I wanted the 560 Ti, but this 660 Ti came out and it's better, Should I get Asus or Power Edition. EVGA only has 1 fan :S that's the problem and 2gb of vram is enough right?

I would normally go for the Asus for being quieter, except for the fact that these 660 Ti's in general are all pretty quiet due to their low heat/low power profile. In light of that, the EVGA with a reference fan will still be considered a low-noise video card, so don't shy away from that one if it's the best deal.

While 2GB is more than necessary for most scenarios, if you can get the 3GB version for a reasonable price, I would go for it. The reason is because that the 660 Ti 2GB memory controller is asymmetrical and leaves one memory bank running at a lower bandwidth in a 2GB configuration. In the 3GB configuration, you have 1.5 GB x2 symmetry that leaves all the memory banks running at full bandwidth (or something like that).
http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphics/43797-kfa2-gefor...
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6159/the-geforce-gtx-660-...
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September 28, 2012 8:37:17 PM

Either the ASUS or MSI would be good... the ASUS would be a bit quieter so I'd probably snag that.
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September 28, 2012 8:40:53 PM

loresr97 said:
Which one exactly? I've heard Asus are good, but also that the Power Edition is best.
ASUS GTX 660 Ti Direct CU II TOP or the MSI Power Edition i think i would choose the MSI Power Edition in this case. ;) 
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September 29, 2012 2:12:32 AM

Just found this listing of most of the major GTX 660 Ti's. Good for reference purposes.
http://www.ocaholic.ch/xoops/html/modules/smartsection/...
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September 30, 2012 7:13:01 PM

Best answer selected by loresr97.
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September 30, 2012 7:23:43 PM

BigMack70 said:
^^ I'm not even gonna bother correcting this anymore. :pfff: 
:lol:  now your thinking smart it's a waste of time ;) 
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