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November 23, 2012 2:36:52 AM

Ok, I have never built A PC before but I know my way around the hardware and such but i'm wondering if these parts will work together.

EVGA GeForce GTX 670 Superclocked+ w/Backplate 04G-P4-2673-KR Video Card.

Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" SATA 6.0Gb/s Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive.

LG Black 12X Blu-ray Combo Drive SATA Model UH12NS29.

CORSAIR Vengeance 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory.

COOLER MASTER CM Storm Series Trooper (SGC-5000-KKN1) Black Steel / Plastic ATX Full Tower Computer Case.

ASUS PCE-N53 PCI Express Dual-Band Wireless-N600 Adapter.

Thermaltake TR2 RX TRX-1000M 1000W ATX 12V v2.3 / EPS 12V v2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply.

ASUS P9X79 LE LGA 2011 Intel X79 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with USB BIOS.

Intel Core i7-3820 Sandy Bridge-E 3.6GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 2011 130W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80619i73820.


Any help would be wonderful, I know hardware but like I said this is my first time and I dont want to waste money, and if anyone can tell me if I need that big of a power supply or not, thank you!

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November 23, 2012 2:38:43 AM

Whereare you buying this from?

Dont' get that i7.

Is this for Gaming? Do you really need PhysX?
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November 23, 2012 2:42:19 AM

Im getting the parts from newegg, So...get the i5 instead and yes this is for gaming and I would like PhysX

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Ok so i decided to go with the Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I53570K and a Intel BOXDZ68BC LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

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November 23, 2012 3:02:55 AM

EDITED OUT!
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November 23, 2012 3:11:28 AM

No, I dont want to SLI But is there anyway I can upgrade to 4gb for the gtx670 and still be good because I would like the 4gb more


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November 23, 2012 3:15:12 AM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($169.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: OCZ Vertex 4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 670 4GB Video Card ($419.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Phantom (White) ATX Full Tower Case ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Enthusiast 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus BW-12B1ST/BLK/G/AS Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1029.91
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-11-23 00:14 EST-0500)
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November 23, 2012 3:21:00 AM

Some of the parts were out of stock so this is the best I could find

Seagate Barracuda STBD2000101 2TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.5" Internal Hard Drive, CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9B and a SAMSUNG 840 Pro Series MZ-7PD128BW 2.5" 128GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
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November 23, 2012 4:03:45 AM

Opt for a 7970 GHz instead, you just have to manually activate physx in games that use it(not that much)

seriously, unless you do Video editing or something of that sort, 4GB Vram is a lot, 2GB is already more than enough and the 7970 GHz gives you 3 Vram and much better performance over the 670 and 680.

and you are pretty crazy wanting to spend $2000 on a build that doesnt have any upgrade points. doing a $1300 will suffice for performance and not wanting to SLI /CFX

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100 92.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V LK ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: OCZ Vertex 4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($114.99 @ Microcenter)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition 3GB Video Card ($454.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master HAF XM (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Rosewill Hive 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($66.27 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $1296.15
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-11-23 01:03 EST-0500)
(kind of creepy because i didnt edit $1300 and got just about $1300)

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November 23, 2012 4:22:00 AM

So how much would SLI/CFX increase my performance? Also Im not really good with liquid cooling how hard is it to install and change do maintenance on it?
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November 23, 2012 4:26:20 AM

On a single monitor, there's no need for one. You would only wasting money on SLI.
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November 23, 2012 4:38:05 AM

cutebeans said:
On a single monitor, there's no need for one. You would only wasting money on SLI.


there is no need for one right away, if you want to upgrade your computer for not that much money then getting another GPU(of the same kind) will provide you with a great boost not to mention the GPU would be cheaper by the time you would need it
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November 23, 2012 4:42:16 AM

Well this is my final build for it
(Didnt want to go with 4tbs for memory, Dont really need that much for me and plus i can always had more if i need it, Also some parts were outta stock >.<)

ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM

Western Digital WD Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

ASUS PCE-N53 PCI Express Dual-Band Wireless-N600 Adapter

SAPPHIRE Vapor-X 100351VXSR Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition 3GB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support ...

Rosewill HIVE Series HIVE-550 550W Continuous @40°C, 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified, Modular Design, Single +12V Rail, ATX12V v2.31/EPS12V ...

Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model PV38G160C9KRD

ASRock Z77 Extreme3 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I53570K

CORSAIR Hydro Series H60 (CWCH60) High Performance Liquid CPU Cooler

SAMSUNG 840 Pro Series MZ-7PD128BW 2.5" 128GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)

COOLER MASTER HAF XM RC-922XM-KKN1 Black Mesh, Plastic, Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

Comes out to a total of $1,853.95 with next day shipping which this was how much it was gonna cost without shipping or anything before I came to this forum and thanks man you have been a big help, and one little question is the power supply big enough?
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November 23, 2012 4:50:34 AM

Keep in mind that only some games use PhysX, and some of those barely use it.

There has also been benchmarks showing that using low-end GPUs to run PhysX will LOWER your FPS. Unless if you use a mid-high end GPU, you're better off OCing your processor.
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November 23, 2012 4:51:34 AM

boulbox said:
there is no need for one right away, if you want to upgrade your computer for not that much money then getting another GPU(of the same kind) will provide you with a great boost not to mention the GPU would be cheaper by the time you would need it


Not really, by the time they become cheaper. There are more powerful single card alternatives.
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November 23, 2012 4:52:49 AM

^That is actually a very, very good build. Your power supply is fine if you only want one card - upgrade it to a 750w if you want to do SLI down the road. (Oh, and WARNING: do not buy a rosewill PSU. It's a bad quality one, which means it's more likely to go bad, and it's more likely to take your entire computer with it if it does.)

I only have two things to pick a beef with you on...

The first was that I didn't see an ssd, but never mind, you have the best in the market. That drive is only beaten by the larger versions of it's own model.

That being said, the beef I do have with you is serious. Don't get a closed circuit water cooler like the H60. Get either a Hyper 212 EVO (which is more than enough for overclocks up to 4.4GHz or so on that i5) or a Noctua -D14 (Which'll get you up to about... 4.6? 4.7? It depends on just how lucky you got with your chip, but honestly, the 4.4 is more than fast enough, and that's where those chips like to settle, anyways.)

Here's why you want air over liquid:

An air cooler has fewer moving parts - this means the liquid cooler is more likely to break.

When an air cooler breaks, it has a huge metal heatsink to let the chip throttle itself properly - when a liquid cooler breaks, you're screwed.

If a liquid cooler fails catastrophically, it will end up spewing liquid ALL over your computer. Even if it happens to be non-conductive, it'll take days and days to clean up.
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November 23, 2012 4:53:37 AM

cutebeans said:
Not really, by the time they become cheaper. There are more powerful single card alternatives.

Such as nvidia, the gtx690 is still $1000 and there is talk of the 700 series already...
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November 23, 2012 4:57:10 AM

DarkSable said:
^That is actually a very, very good build. Your power supply is fine if you only want one card - upgrade it to a 750w if you want to do SLI down the road. (Oh, and WARNING: do not buy a rosewill PSU. It's a bad quality one, which means it's more likely to go bad, and it's more likely to take your entire computer with it if it does.)

I only have two things to pick a beef with you on...

The first was that I didn't see an ssd, but never mind, you have the best in the market. That drive is only beaten by the larger versions of it's own model.

That being said, the beef I do have with you is serious. Don't get a closed circuit water cooler like the H60. Get either a Hyper 212 EVO (which is more than enough for overclocks up to 4.4GHz or so on that i5) or a Noctua -D14 (Which'll get you up to about... 4.6? 4.7? It depends on just how lucky you got with your chip, but honestly, the 4.4 is more than fast enough, and that's where those chips like to settle, anyways.)

Here's why you want air over liquid:

An air cooler has fewer moving parts - this means the liquid cooler is more likely to break.

When an air cooler breaks, it has a huge metal heatsink to let the chip throttle itself properly - when a liquid cooler breaks, you're screwed.

If a liquid cooler fails catastrophically, it will end up spewing liquid ALL over your computer. Even if it happens to be non-conductive, it'll take days and days to clean up.


I do have an ssd :p  like I said im a noob when it comes to building but im still smart
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November 23, 2012 4:59:10 AM

Syndicate357 said:
So how much would SLI/CFX increase my performance? Also Im not really good with liquid cooling how hard is it to install and change do maintenance on it?

If you want to use the extreme physX settings then yes you want to SLI right away.


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Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I53570K

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November 23, 2012 5:02:15 AM

Eh I dont think I want to SLI/CFX I mean Like they have been saying this is a very good system, also I went with a COOLER MASTER eXtreme Power RS600-PCARE3-US 600W ATX12V V2.3 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Power Supply Is that good?
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November 23, 2012 5:10:36 AM

Syndicate357 said:
Eh I dont think I want to SLI/CFX I mean Like they have been saying this is a very good system, also I went with a COOLER MASTER eXtreme Power RS600-PCARE3-US 600W ATX12V V2.3 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Power Supply Is that good?

I'm not a big fan of CM psu's. They have a higher than your average fail rate along with weak transistors. Here's a modular Seasonic worth looking at.


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $69.99 FREE SHIPPING
SeaSonic M12II 520 Bronze 520W ATX12V v2.3 / EPS 12V v2.91 SLI Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
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November 23, 2012 5:14:11 AM

Why_Me said:
I'm not a big fan of CM psu's. They have a higher than your average fail rate along with weak transistors. Here's a modular Seasonic worth looking at.


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $69.99 FREE SHIPPING
SeaSonic M12II 520 Bronze 520W ATX12V v2.3 / EPS 12V v2.91 SLI Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply


And will that be large enough watts wise?
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November 23, 2012 5:55:35 AM

Syndicate357 said:
And will that be large enough watts wise?

More than enough. You can run that card easily with a 500w psu.
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November 23, 2012 6:25:45 AM

Syndicate357 said:
Eh I dont think I want to SLI/CFX I mean Like they have been saying this is a very good system, also I went with a COOLER MASTER eXtreme Power RS600-PCARE3-US 600W ATX12V V2.3 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Power Supply Is that good?
I don't care what anybody tells you. If you want to max out all games on a single monitor @1080 one 670 will do there is a few games it won't cut it though.If you plan to use any higher res or a 120hz monitor you'll need two cards.
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November 23, 2012 2:57:00 PM

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^That is actually a very, very good build. Your power supply is fine if you only want one card - upgrade it to a 750w if you want to do SLI down the road. (Oh, and WARNING: do not buy a rosewill PSU. It's a bad quality one, which means it's more likely to go bad, and it's more likely to take your entire computer with it if it does.)


That is also what people said back then when buying something like a 6870 and now you can just buy the second one for cheaper now and have performance next to/more than high end cards.

Rosewill has gotten better in their PSU build so less failure rate so far but you are right, i am not a big fan of them and would rather get something like an XFX, Corsair, Seasonic, and so much more.
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November 23, 2012 7:30:49 PM

bigcyco1 said:
I don't care what anybody tells you. If you want to max out all games on a single monitor @1080 one 670 will do there is a few games it won't cut it though.If you plan to use any higher res or a 120hz monitor you'll need two cards.


I haven't run into a game yet that my overclocked 670 can't handle maxxed out at 60fps. Most games (minus the very heavy hitters / badly optimized) I can max out at 120.
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November 23, 2012 7:43:46 PM

DarkSable said:
I haven't run into a game yet that my overclocked 670 can't handle maxxed out at 60fps. Most games (minus the very heavy hitters / badly optimized) I can max out at 120.


that is probably including Vsync
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November 23, 2012 8:00:04 PM

boulbox said:
that is probably including Vsync

Not sure what that means, but no, it's not including Vsync - though I do cap the framerates through the game, if it has that option.
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November 23, 2012 8:58:47 PM

turn off Vsync in Nvidia by Manage 3D settings> Global>Vertical sync off

also turn it off inside games
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November 23, 2012 9:17:04 PM

boulbox said:
turn off Vsync in Nvidia by Manage 3D settings> Global>Vertical sync off

also turn it off inside games


I do have vsync off in the nvidia control panel. I don't use it in games, though I use hard caps when available.

I'm confused as to what you're aiming for - are you trying to say my card doesn't put out those framerates? Because vsync doesn't work that way.
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November 23, 2012 10:08:00 PM

Its just that it will not always say the right FPS if v sync is on, syncing into 120 Hz is easy but getting up to it w/o sync is pretty dam hard with just 1 GPU(unless the game doesnt take much)

just go do Unigine Heaven 3.0 maxing out all the settings and do benchmark
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November 24, 2012 12:06:05 AM

^Like I said, I don't use any form of vsync.
I'm not running Metro 2033 or any game that level at 120fps - I'm maxxing them at 60 fps, or running on medium / high at 120.

As for my heaven 3.0 benchmark, 1920x1080, everything maxxed with 8xAA and 16xAF, I get just under 50 frames per second. With the settings I'd run a brand-new DX11 game on, (4xAA, 8xAF, medium shaders), I get over 85. There's no need for SLI or Crossfire on a single monitor, unless you just HAVE to max out crysis 3, or battlefield 4 with the things you can't even see.
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November 24, 2012 12:06:48 AM

DarkSable said:
I haven't run into a game yet that my overclocked 670 can't handle maxxed out at 60fps. Most games (minus the very heavy hitters / badly optimized) I can max out at 120.
Try http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bsxc3YsGak&feature=chan... there a few others my point was he would not max out all games for some reason people think you can it dips does not stay 60+
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November 24, 2012 12:13:27 AM

Well, yeah. There are going to be some older, graphically intense games that aren't optimized on newer hardware. There are going to be some games, like metro 2033, that you'll get lag on.

But most games you're never going to notice, and those that you do? You can't tell the difference between max and slightly lowered settings anyways. (For example, supersampling in the witcher 2 - if you're playing at 1080p, it's completely superfluous.)
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November 24, 2012 12:34:49 AM

Yeah it doesn't bother me but i know some are cry babies and expect to much out the card.That is why i warn people ahead of time now.
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November 24, 2012 12:42:54 AM

@DarkSable what do you avg in planetside 2 ?I don't have that game and somebody wants to know if they can max it out with a 670.



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