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November 23, 2012 2:59:46 AM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($299.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Antec KUHLER Box CPU Cooler
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V PRO ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($179.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($70.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($182.98 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($359.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($359.99 @ Newegg)
Sound Card: Asus Xonar D1 24-bit 192 KHz Sound Card ($79.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Professional 850W 80 PLUS Silver Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($164.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Asus VH236H 23.0" Monitor ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Keyboard: Microsoft SIDEWINDER X4 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1908.87
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-11-22 23:59 EST-0500)

This will be my first time building a computer.

**Intended uses**
-Programming
-Video Streaming High Quality Games
-Maxing out Games

**Help**
-Is SLI Worth it?
-What kind of case to buy?
-Build confirmed compatible?

Any help you can offer is appreciated

More about : high end gaming

November 23, 2012 3:07:56 AM

For the CPU, many has suggested to stay with the i5-3570k. Because it's cheaper and it provides similar performance to i7-3770k for gaming.

SLI is definitely worth it for gaming, IMO.

For casing, it is better you choose a case that you enjoy viewing.

One last thing, maybe get an SSD to go with your build?

Just a new guy here, so I'm not sure if what I'm saying is correct. But based on my readings and understanding, this is my only comment.
November 23, 2012 3:09:27 AM

SLI is not worth it on a single monitor.

Don't need sound card.
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November 23, 2012 3:11:42 AM

Honestly I'd just drop the SLI since your only running one display. and for the extra boost go with a 680. No games these days need more than a 670 but with the games with unknown performance requirements.... its unclear which is the better path.

As for a good case. it depends on the budget and asthetic concern of the builder. The end user has to like the case since its like buying a house. You buy a house to live in for the next X amount of years.... you want the house to have the right features... you want a computer case to have enough room to house everything. enough USB ports (which most cases do)

And yes everything you listed in compatible. Other than a case needed You get a ROCKDPM seal of approval!
November 23, 2012 3:21:41 AM

I think its a solid move for dropping the SLI and moving to the 680. I just have a few followup questions regarding the case...

Is a mid tower or full tower more appropriate?

I am thinking full tower for the following reasons
-Adding graphics card in the future will require more space no?
-Better cable management

However, if all that space is just for liquid cooling, then maybe its not worth it.

How difficult is it to install an additional monitor, as well as raid storage(if I choose to get a SSD drive?)

I am trying to avoid bare drives when purchasing because they do not come with the tools/cables for installation, correct?
November 23, 2012 3:33:08 AM

SLI on a single montior is useful if you're running 3D or a 120hz monitor while maxing everything and using the highest possible resolution.

Mid tower is fine unless you are quad sli'ing and have ten hard drives and need the extra space for better airflow and more drive bay slots.

Drop the sound card unless you're a producer. Get a better power supply, I'd go for a gold certified and modular. Forget SLI if you're getting a Asus VH236H. Go for a 120hz monitor.
November 23, 2012 3:37:14 AM

charmanda said:
I think its a solid move for dropping the SLI and moving to the 680. I just have a few followup questions regarding the case...

Is a mid tower or full tower more appropriate?

I am thinking full tower for the following reasons
-Adding graphics card in the future will require more space no?
-Better cable management

However, if all that space is just for liquid cooling, then maybe its not worth it.

How difficult is it to install an additional monitor, as well as raid storage(if I choose to get a SSD drive?)

I am trying to avoid bare drives when purchasing because they do not come with the tools/cables for installation, correct?

Yes, get a full tower. the cable management will be better and more room for expansion. Along with cable management.
A cooler master Storm Stryker or CM STORM trooper (Which i use) would be just fine.
November 23, 2012 3:51:48 AM

Get a 670. The 680 is not worth the moeny.
November 23, 2012 3:53:27 AM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($299.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Antec KUHLER Box CPU Cooler ($57.00 @ Mac Connection)
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V PRO ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($179.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($70.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($159.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 680 2GB Video Card ($469.99 @ Amazon)
Sound Card: Asus Xonar D1 24-bit 192 KHz Sound Card ($79.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master Storm Trooper ATX Full Tower Case ($139.91 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair Professional 850W 80 PLUS Silver Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($139.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ Outlet PC)
Monitor: Asus VH236H 23.0" Monitor ($139.99 @ NCIX US)
Keyboard: Microsoft SIDEWINDER X4 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1797.79
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-11-23 00:50 EST-0500)

Here is my current build.

If I may say, as someone who is new to pc building, I love all the power I am getting for the price.

Thoughts on-
*Extra Hardrives for Raid storage(Honestly though, 2 GB may be enough no)
*An additional monitor
*Sound Card/No Sound Card(I enjoy audio quality)
*Networking Card?(Is it possible for this computer to connect wireless as well as eternet?

I also just want to express my profound thanks for the speed and elegance of your replies.
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EDIT: This is a build incorporating the suggestion for a better power supply and monitor, as well as removing the sound card

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($299.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Antec KUHLER Box CPU Cooler ($57.00 @ Mac Connection)
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V PRO ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($179.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($70.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($159.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 680 2GB Video Card ($469.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Cooler Master Storm Trooper ATX Full Tower Case ($139.91 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Cooler Master Silent Pro Gold 800W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($147.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ Outlet PC)
Monitor: BenQ XL2420T 120Hz 24.0" Monitor ($389.99 @ Newegg)
Keyboard: Microsoft SIDEWINDER X4 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1975.81
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-11-23 01:06 EST-0500)
November 23, 2012 4:45:02 AM

Don't buy an i7 - it's the EXACT same gaming performance as an i5-3570k. The only difference is that the i7 has hyperthreading, which no games use.

That's a kinda bad cooler - I'd go with a Hyper 212 EVO or a Noctua -d14

You don't need 16 GB of ram, only 8. With BF3, Photopshop, and 20 tabs open, I don't even use 6gb of my 8.

Get a smaller hard drive - 1TB and an SSD. It'll make a HUGE difference.

Don't bother with a 680 - It's only 5% better than the 670, for $100 more.

Go with a mid tower case. Full tower just makes it hard to move.

Avoid Coolermaster power supplies - look for corsair, seasonic, antec... also, 750w is more than enough even if you have two graphics cards.

Okay, now I'm really confused. You went and got a 120 HZ monitor but dropped the SLI? Get those two 670s back - it's worth it.

Don't bother with any keyboard that advertises itself as "gaming." If you want a good keyboard, get a mechanical keyboard. The sidewinder is the exact same as a $5 POS, but it has pretty lights and a few extra buttons. (You can use your keypad as a macro pad, it works wonderfully.)
November 23, 2012 5:04:11 AM

Ok here is the current build.
I am receiving conflicting information regarding the SLI/Tower, so I am wondering how to proceed.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($299.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V PRO ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($179.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($70.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($84.44 @ B&H)
Storage: OCZ Vertex 4 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($359.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($359.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master Storm Trooper ATX Full Tower Case ($139.91 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair Professional Gold 850W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($154.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ Outlet PC)
Monitor: BenQ XL2420T 120Hz 24.0" Monitor ($389.99 @ Newegg)
Keyboard: Microsoft SIDEWINDER X4 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $2285.23
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-11-23 02:03 EST-0500)
November 23, 2012 3:20:07 PM

so I guess my questions are is SLI worth it if I only have a single monitor, is raid worth it for the first buy, and how difficult is it to set up?
November 23, 2012 7:53:02 PM

charmanda said:
so I guess my questions are is SLI worth it if I only have a single monitor, is raid worth it for the first buy, and how difficult is it to set up?

To be honest. When you just getting into PC Gaming... don't bother with all the enthusiast extra's that you don't need and currently don't know much about. Just get a Single card and worry about doing a RAID for a future build.

Your going to do great things with that computer.... :D  Great things :sol: 
November 23, 2012 8:45:00 PM

I did a little research regarding SLI, and it appears it isn't that difficult to install/setup.
For now, I think this is going to be my final build, unless you guys have any other major suggestions. Regarding SLI, if I don't use it, then the power supply is pretty much a waste considering how much extra power I will have.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($299.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V PRO ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($62.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($161.20 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($359.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($359.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master Storm Trooper ATX Full Tower Case ($139.91 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair Professional Gold 850W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($169.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ Outlet PC)
Monitor: BenQ XL2420T 120Hz 24.0" Monitor ($389.99 @ Newegg)
Keyboard: Microsoft SIDEWINDER X4 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($54.90 @ Adorama)
Total: $2213.91
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-11-23 17:43 EST-0500)
November 24, 2012 1:04:17 AM

As everybody has already said. SLI is useless on a single monitor.
November 24, 2012 1:33:09 AM

So final build. Since I only have one monitor, sticking to one graphics card, also using the 670 since the increase provided by the 680 is as you said, very slight. Thanks to everyone for your help!

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($299.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V PRO ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($62.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($178.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($359.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master Storm Trooper ATX Full Tower Case ($139.91 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair Professional Gold 850W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($169.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ Outlet PC)
Monitor: BenQ XL2420T 120Hz 24.0" Monitor ($389.99 @ Newegg)
Keyboard: Microsoft SIDEWINDER X4 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($56.48 @ Mwave)
Total: $1873.29
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-11-23 22:32 EST-0500)
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