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September 29, 2012 2:07:51 AM

Hey,
So, I'm in the market looking for a new video card for video gaming, but, I can't decide which one is best for me.

This here is my computer: http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c03...

I've been considering either I get a HD 7870 or a GTX 660 but I'm getting mixed results regarding which one is better.

HD 7870 : http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

GTX 660: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

Regarding my PSU, I'm pretty sure my 300W one won't cut it so I've been looking at:

RAIDMAX HYBRID 2 RX-530SS 530W: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

CORSAIR Builder Series CX500 V2 500W: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

My budget is at 300 CAD including taxes and shipping, although it would be nice to have it at 200 CAD if I could get similar performance.

I'm also open to any suggestions other than the ones I've listed above.

Thanks in advance guys!

PS: I can only buy from Canadian Retailers (Newegg.ca, NCIX.ca, TigerDirect.ca, etc.)



September 29, 2012 2:21:16 AM

umm your not gonna get those cards for under 300 with taxes and shipping along with the psu but might i suggest maybe you can get a 560 non ti version for about 160 and u could make the 200-230 mark
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September 29, 2012 2:26:37 AM

I've calculated the total and I do indeed end up at 300 CAD. Otherwise, how does the 560 fare against the GTX 660 and the HD 7870?
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September 29, 2012 2:30:16 AM

well youve met the 300 mark go for it :)  but might i ask what games will you be playing?
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September 29, 2012 2:31:05 AM

tyson2295 said:
for instance this 560 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... you could also go for the 550 ti at around 120-130 maybe the gtx 650 slightly better but very very little for the same price


I'll look into that but isn't the 560 quite a bit weaker than the 660? Performance/Price wise. :??: 
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September 29, 2012 2:32:04 AM

tyson2295 said:
well youve met the 300 mark go for it :)  but might i ask what games will you be playing?


Battlefield 3, CS:GO, Saints row 3, Blacklight, etc.

What I really wanted to know is if I've found the best card and PSU for the price.
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September 29, 2012 2:37:49 AM

alright so the gpu yeah its a great card its what im getting also in a couple of weeks the psu is okay itll power it as for the 560 it is weaker but itll still run bf3 at high maybe even ultra but the 660 will run it on ultra no problem
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September 29, 2012 2:46:46 AM

The corsair power supply is much better than the raidmax and that Radeon HD 7870 is at the most amazing price I've ever seen. Don't hesitate, buy now!
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September 29, 2012 3:08:13 AM

Out of the two cards I would go for the 7870 if you can.
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September 29, 2012 3:18:13 AM

Alright guys, I'm going to measure my computer tomorrow morning to see if it can house the 7870. If my computer ends up being too small, would getting a gtx 660 or any other card yield similar results to the 7870?
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September 29, 2012 4:18:58 AM

yeah it would be similar
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September 29, 2012 4:51:39 AM

Here's some data from cupla testing sites @ 1920 x 1200..... note 660 PE and DCII series are non reference cards

Techpowerup used the following common games in their testing...Alan Wake, AvP, Batman Arkham City, BF3, BattleForge, COD4, Civilization 5, Crysis. Crysis 2, Dirt 3, Dragon Age II, Hard Reset, Metro 2033, Stalker CoP, Starcraft 2, Shogun 2, Skyrim, WoW, Diablo II, Max Payne 3, Sniper Elite V2

660 Ti DCII gets 1468.2 fps for $310 at a cost of $0.21 per frame
660 Ti gets 1387.4 fps for $300 at a cost of $0.22 per frame
7870 gets 1236.6 fps for $280 at a cost of $0.23 per frame
7950 gets 1348.2 fps for $330 at a cost of $0.24 per frame

Guru3D uses the following games in their test suite: Hard Reset, COD-MW2, Far Cry 2, ANNO 1404, Metro 2033, ANNO 2070, BFBC2, BF3, Crysis 2, AvP, Lost Planet 2. Total fps (summing fps in each game @ 1920 x 1200) are tabulated below along with their cost in dollars per frame @ 1920 x 1200:

660 PE gets 851 fps for $300 at a cost of $0.35 per frame
7870 gets 701 fps for $280 at a cost of $0.40 per frame
670 DCII gets 999 fps for $420 at a cost of $0.42 per frame
670 gets 917 fps for $400 at a cost of $0.44 per frame
7950 gets 746 fps for $330 at a cost of $0.44 per frame
7970 DCII gets 924 fps for $415 at a cost of $0.45 per frame
680 DCII gets 1077 fps for $520 at a cost of $0.48 per frame
7970 gets 872 fps for $420 at a cost of $0.48 per frame
7970 GHz gets 952 fps for $470 at a cost of $0.49 per frame
680 gets 989 fps for $500 at a cost of $0.51 per frame

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September 29, 2012 5:52:42 AM

JackNaylorPE said:
Here's some data from cupla testing sites @ 1920 x 1200..... note 660 PE and DCII series are non reference cards

Techpowerup used the following common games in their testing...Alan Wake, AvP, Batman Arkham City, BF3, BattleForge, COD4, Civilization 5, Crysis. Crysis 2, Dirt 3, Dragon Age II, Hard Reset, Metro 2033, Stalker CoP, Starcraft 2, Shogun 2, Skyrim, WoW, Diablo II, Max Payne 3, Sniper Elite V2

660 Ti DCII gets 1468.2 fps for $310 at a cost of $0.21 per frame
660 Ti gets 1387.4 fps for $300 at a cost of $0.22 per frame
7870 gets 1236.6 fps for $280 at a cost of $0.23 per frame
7950 gets 1348.2 fps for $330 at a cost of $0.24 per frame

Guru3D uses the following games in their test suite: Hard Reset, COD-MW2, Far Cry 2, ANNO 1404, Metro 2033, ANNO 2070, BFBC2, BF3, Crysis 2, AvP, Lost Planet 2. Total fps (summing fps in each game @ 1920 x 1200) are tabulated below along with their cost in dollars per frame @ 1920 x 1200:

660 PE gets 851 fps for $300 at a cost of $0.35 per frame
7870 gets 701 fps for $280 at a cost of $0.40 per frame
670 DCII gets 999 fps for $420 at a cost of $0.42 per frame
670 gets 917 fps for $400 at a cost of $0.44 per frame
7950 gets 746 fps for $330 at a cost of $0.44 per frame
7970 DCII gets 924 fps for $415 at a cost of $0.45 per frame
680 DCII gets 1077 fps for $520 at a cost of $0.48 per frame
7970 gets 872 fps for $420 at a cost of $0.48 per frame
7970 GHz gets 952 fps for $470 at a cost of $0.49 per frame
680 gets 989 fps for $500 at a cost of $0.51 per frame


How did you find out the prices per frame ?
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September 29, 2012 6:20:33 AM

tyson2295 said:
for instance this 560 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... you could also go for the 550 ti at around 120-130 maybe the gtx 650 slightly better but very very little for the same price


People: STOP suggesting the 550ti! The HD 7770 is the same or cheaper and stronger! The 7750 is way cheaper and the same strength AND you wouldn't need a new PSU since it doesn't use any external power.
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September 29, 2012 9:32:10 AM

CaptainTom said:
People: STOP suggesting the 550ti! The HD 7770 is the same or cheaper and stronger! The 7750 is way cheaper and the same strength AND you wouldn't need a new PSU since it doesn't use any external power.



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Thank you for being smart.
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September 29, 2012 7:51:05 PM

Alright so, I've measured my case and all and I think I'm going to settle with the iceQ HD 7870: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681... (You can see the pictures)

Although, I'm not quite sure if the capacitors and/or the PCI slots will not allow the card to fit:








Also, if anyone has any other suggestions, it'd be nice to let me know if I'm getting the best my budget can get me.

This is the site which I'm looking at for the hd 7870: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=EN...

This is the site which at looking at for the gtx 660: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=EN...

If you'd like any more pictures please let me know.
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September 30, 2012 1:44:39 AM

Anyone have an idea?
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