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November 23, 2012 7:18:27 PM

Approximate Purchase Date: Within the next few weeks, it’s an early Christmas gift for myself. (Plus all of the deals on newegg.com are incredible at the moment.)

Budget Range: Around $1,700 with discounts and after shipping, however if you guys can try to knock it off a few hundred dollars that would be excellent. I’m pushing my budget right now. I already took out my SSD from my cart to save some money, but I plan to get it once I have enough money.

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Primarily gaming and some 3-D Modeling.

Are you buying a monitor: Yes.

Parts to Upgrade: Everything.

Do you need to buy OS: Possibly. I plan to clone my current hard drive to my new hard drive using a SATA to USB converter. Can anyone give me good software that will do this? I’ve found a few tutorials but they are mostly outdated.

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: newegg.com

Location: Liverpool, NY, United States.

Parts Preferences: I’m looking for a mainly Intel build.

Overclocking: Possibly within the next few years if I decide to liquid cool my system.

SLI or Crossfire: As with overclocking, likely within the next year.

Your Monitor Resolution: 1920x 1080

Additional Comments: I’m mostly playing Arma 2, and it is a very processor heavy game so I might be bottlenecking a little bit with my GPU, but this computer should be compatible for Arma 3 when I decide to get another graphics card.
The case that I have selected has no dust filters, and I plan to make my own using pantyhose (yes, a bit odd I know) because I’ve watched a few videos and I looked at this site for custom fan filters, but they all look pretty unpromising for catching smaller dust particles as my desktop is going to be in my basement. Even with it being elevated off the ground, my basement tends to collect a lot of dust.

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: I currently play Arma off of a HP-Pavillion laptop, and it gets really hot. I’ve considered buying a cooling fan for my laptop but decided I’m going to be using this laptop mainly for schoolwork, and the desktop for gaming. I figured the fan would just be a waste of money, as only high-end cooling fans really make a difference with laptops.

Parts List:
Case: COOLER MASTER HAF 932 Advanced Blue Edition RC-932-KKN3-GP Black Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case with USB 3.0, Black Interior and Four Blue LED Fans-1x 230mm front fan, 1x 230mm top fan, 1x 230mm side fan, and 1x 140mm rear fan
Motherboard: ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS
GPU: MSI R7850 PE 2GD5/OC Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
Power Supply: CORSAIR HX Series HX850 850W ATX12V 2.3 / EPS12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K Ivy Bridge 3.5GHz (3.9GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I73770K
RAM: CORSAIR Vengeance LP 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CML16GX3M2A1600C10
Hard Drive: Western Digital WD Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Keyboard:Microsoft SIDEWINDER X4 Keyboard ** This is currently out of stock, could use some keyboard suggestions!
Monitor: ASUS VH236H Black 23" 2ms Full HD Widescreen LCD Monitor w/ Speakers 300 cd/m2 20000 :1 (ASCR)
Mouse: Logitech G9x Black Two modes scroll USB Wired Laser 5700 dpi Gaming Mouse
Headset: Logitech G930 USB Connector Circumaural Wireless Gaming Headset
Optical Drive: ASUS 24X DVD Burner - Bulk 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM Black SATA Model DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS - OEM



Accessories:
HDD Cooling Fan: EVERCOOL HD-F117 Aluminum HDD Cooling Device
Anti-Static Wrist Strap: Rosewill RTK-002 Anti-Static Wrist Strap
140mm fan filter: Silverstone FF141B 140mm Fan Filter with Magnet (Black)
SATA to USB adapter: My friend is letting me borrow.
Black pantyhose: Walmart, a few bucks.



November 23, 2012 7:54:18 PM

alexoiu said:
Hi, The board might not fit. The CPU requires a BIOS update and you'll need a supported CPU for that. http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/Intel_Socket_1155/P8Z6...
Choose a Z77 one. Let's say P8Z77-V Deluxe.
Same for memory. Use the manufacturer's configurator: http://www.corsair.com/us/learn_n_explore/
The wrist strap is not needed (IMO).

Thanks for the advice! And I selected the motherboard you suggested, and also got this ram . Even though I'd like a 16gb ram stick, I guess this will have to do to stay within my budget range. As for the wrist strap, I know that I'll just be able to touch any open, unpainted metal and I'll be fine but better safe than sorry, right?
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November 24, 2012 4:48:22 PM

Yes. Good luck and please post back your first impressions.
The RAMs seem a little bit high (including the cooler). Make sure they will fit the CPU cooler.
November 24, 2012 6:11:34 PM

try this build out instead

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($299.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($104.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($76.87 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: OCZ Vertex 4 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition 3GB Video Card ($454.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 932 Advanced ATX Full Tower Case ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic X Series 850W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ Outlet PC)
Monitor: Acer G236HLBbd 60Hz 23.0" Monitor ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1541.75
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-11-24 15:08 EST-0500)

great for video editing and heavy programming stuff while great for gaming.

7970 GHz is one of the fastest GPU out there currently.

no need to get an anti static wrist band unless you live somewhere that shocks you every few minutes.

you are spending to much stuff on things like mobo and those ram you have in second post.

get an SSD instead for making the system faster and letting you downgrade the HDD(not much of a downgrade besides price)

the HX series is an OEM of the PSU i posted here and this one is a lot cheaper

November 25, 2012 6:48:31 AM

boulbox said:
try this build out instead

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($299.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($104.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($76.87 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: OCZ Vertex 4 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition 3GB Video Card ($454.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 932 Advanced ATX Full Tower Case ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic X Series 850W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ Outlet PC)
Monitor: Acer G236HLBbd 60Hz 23.0" Monitor ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1541.75
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-11-24 15:08 EST-0500)

great for video editing and heavy programming stuff while great for gaming.

7970 GHz is one of the fastest GPU out there currently.

no need to get an anti static wrist band unless you live somewhere that shocks you every few minutes.

you are spending to much stuff on things like mobo and those ram you have in second post.

get an SSD instead for making the system faster and letting you downgrade the HDD(not much of a downgrade besides price)

the HX series is an OEM of the PSU i posted here and this one is a lot cheaper


Thanks for the suggestions on some of the parts, that knocked off a on my cart! As much as I want to get that graphics card, it's out of my range at the moment so I'm looking for something around $200-300ish. Preferably $250 and below. And as for the motherboard, it's out of stock on newegg :/ . The SSD is out of stock as well. I'd love for another suggestion though. And I can now add my SSD back in my cart, just remember that I have to add in the peripherals in my cart as well. I'll make an updated list once any more suggestions are given!

November 25, 2012 6:50:24 AM

alexoiu said:
Yes. Good luck and please post back your first impressions.
The RAMs seem a little bit high (including the cooler). Make sure they will fit the CPU cooler.

I'm going to post an updated cart tomorrow before I make all of my purchases. And yeah, I'm probably going to stick with the RAM that comes with my motherboard as a free gift and put that money toward a better graphics card.
November 26, 2012 1:53:17 AM

boulbox said:
grab the SSD off amazon, it is a steal for the price you will be getting it at

change 7970 into a 7870 then
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/powercolor-video-card-ax78...

also if you do that then change PSU into this one

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seasonic-power-supply-ss75...

I was actually looking at this for the graphics card, just because it has reviews on it. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
And I'll stick with the 850 PSU because like I said, within the next year or so when I get more money I plant to buy another graphics card and liquid cool as well.
November 26, 2012 6:48:54 PM

that and the MSI are pretty much the same, i do not have experience from this exact card.

the only difference from one brand to another is this
1) cooling design(both of the cards use custom cooling design so it is pretty good there)
2) PCB design (usually more expensive but worth it, increases overclocking stability and more performance, i can't tell if the powercooler one is reference or not because it has a backplate which allows more support for the card)
3) Bent pins (company's that pay more for the more premium chips that allow better overclocking, don't know much about this part for both of the cards)
November 26, 2012 7:35:58 PM

boulbox said:
that and the MSI are pretty much the same, i do not have experience from this exact card.

the only difference from one brand to another is this
1) cooling design(both of the cards use custom cooling design so it is pretty good there)
2) PCB design (usually more expensive but worth it, increases overclocking stability and more performance, i can't tell if the powercooler one is reference or not because it has a backplate which allows more support for the card)
3) Bent pins (company's that pay more for the more premium chips that allow better overclocking, don't know much about this part for both of the cards)

I'm going to stick with the MSI, I would get the other graphics card if it had reviews. I know I'll be fine with a 7870. I also had to get a crappy USB keyboard because I really want the sidewinder but it's out of stock, but I'll be getting a better one when I can afford it, and I'll be getting an SSD and more RAM eventually as well.

I plan to get a dedicated sound card, liquid cooling, and another graphics card within a year or so, but here's my final build. I'm just posting links this time for times sake.

Keyboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Free ram w/ motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
HDD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Monitor: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Mouse: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Headset: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Optical Drive: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Windows 7: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Anti Static Strap (just to be sure, it's $5): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total: $1645.50
Minus $55 from mail in rebates
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