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November 24, 2012 3:41:04 AM

Hi guys i wanted to build a gaming pc under 2k i have a solid state 128gb crucial m4 that i am going to be using as a boot drive and this is what i came up with ... let me know what you guys think, i also thought about being different with AMD but i have yet to see a cool build. thanks again in advance!

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/pamN


all opinions will be taken into consideration !

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November 24, 2012 4:16:37 AM

For $2K don't even bother with AMD. For that kind of money - don't use an H100. If you're going to do liquid cooling use the real thing or not at all. The i7, nor 32GB of RAM will benefit you at all in gaming. Also that motherboard is *WAY* overkill for that setup.

Here's what I would suggest:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UP4 TH ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($192.86 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($37.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung Spinpoint F4 2TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition 3GB Video Card (CrossFire) ($454.98 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition 3GB Video Card (CrossFire) ($454.98 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Switch 810 (White) ATX Full Tower Case ($145.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: PC Power & Cooling Silencer Mk II 750W 80 PLUS Silver Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($15.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1902.74
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-11-24 01:16 EST-0500)
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November 24, 2012 4:19:56 AM

You like the radeon cards over the other ones? i mean basic games are WoW MoP, Bf3 maybe some black ops and Skyrim i would love to play max settings and i was told that the h100 were the proper way to go for cooling. and i just want to have one of the baddest setups i can do for around 2k.
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November 24, 2012 4:26:30 AM

H100 is actually not at a bad price right now, i usually suggest D-14 because it is so much cheaper than H100 and performs around the same as H100, but considering how cheap it is right now i might as well suggest it over H100 just for being an easy install and being able to use the cheap ram that have huge heatsinks
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November 24, 2012 4:32:38 AM

trevor1030 said:
You like the radeon cards over the other ones? i mean basic games are WoW MoP, Bf3 maybe some black ops and Skyrim i would love to play max settings and i was told that the h100 were the proper way to go for cooling. and i just want to have one of the baddest setups i can do for around 2k.


The 7970 will tear apart BF3. The 680 will as well, but two 7970s will last several years. On gaming builds *ALL* remaining funds go to getting the best GPU you can get - and that setup will kick major amounts of ass.

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H100 is actually not at a bad price right now, i usually suggest D-14 because it is so much cheaper than H100 and performs around the same as H100, but considering how cheap it is right now i might as well suggest it over H100 just for being an easy install and being able to use the cheap ram that have huge heatsinks


The problem with the H100 is the cheap fans that are included. Plus plastic radiators are like cheap toys compared to the kind of overclocking results a real liquid setup can give you. Think of it like comparing a premium cut, grass fed Porterhouse steak to Taco Bell's ground beef filler. :lol: 
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November 24, 2012 4:36:27 AM

You think the build you posted is the best then add my ssd 128gb for a boot drive?
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November 24, 2012 4:36:57 AM

g-unit1111 said:
The 7970 will tear apart BF3. The 680 will as well, but two 7970s will last several years. On gaming builds *ALL* remaining funds go to getting the best GPU you can get - and that setup will kick major amounts of ass.

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H100 is actually not at a bad price right now, i usually suggest D-14 because it is so much cheaper than H100 and performs around the same as H100, but considering how cheap it is right now i might as well suggest it over H100 just for being an easy install and being able to use the cheap ram that have huge heatsinks


The problem with the H100 is the cheap fans that are included. Plus plastic radiators are like cheap toys compared to the kind of overclocking results a real liquid setup can give you. Think of it like comparing a premium cut, grass fed Porterhouse steak to Taco Bell's ground beef filler. :lol: 
Yeah no fisher price watercooling get outta here with that. :non: 
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November 24, 2012 4:39:36 AM

trevor1030 said:
You think the build you posted is the best then add my ssd 128gb for a boot drive?
Both our builds are 670/680 /7950/7970 it's personal preference they all preform with in spitting distance of one another.Different games favor different hardware you can not go wrong either way! :) 
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November 24, 2012 4:53:42 AM

trevor1030 said:
You think the build you posted is the best then add my ssd 128gb for a boot drive?


Yup - that build will be very solid for gaming with plenty of expansion.
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November 24, 2012 5:03:20 AM

Nice ok well any other options i should consider and why AMD gpu over nvidia?
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November 24, 2012 5:06:03 AM

My flame war sense is tingling...
that should not matter to you it's personal preference surely you have one lol.

Nvidia has PhysX and Adaptive VSync, AMD doesn't. I use both regularly. For me, end of story.
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November 24, 2012 5:08:21 AM

trevor1030 said:
Nice ok well any other options i should consider and why AMD gpu over nvidia?


AMD GPUs have better OCing capability and higher memory bandwidth, thus allowing you to play at higher resolution/anti-aliasing.

However, it still depends on the price of the two brands' GPUs. If the Nivida is cheap enough, then it will be worth buying it.
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November 24, 2012 5:08:55 AM

i mean graphics card wise?
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November 24, 2012 5:34:33 AM



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November 24, 2012 5:38:11 AM

trevor1030 said:
i mean graphics card wise?


Yeah just check the benchmarks - they will tell you everything.
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November 24, 2012 5:41:51 AM

I agree with g- unit it's best to check benchmarks.There are a few issues: 1) People make claims without backing it up with proof, 2) People make blanket statements, when the reality is that certain games favor certain hardware, 3) People make a few FPS advantage seem like a "win", when it usually falls within the margin of error and makes no difference in terms of performance.


Your best bet is to always do your own research using the many review websites and don't always believe everything reported by random anonymous posters on a public forum.All your question will end up doing is starting a flame war then a mod will close your thread.It's best not to go there ;) 
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November 24, 2012 5:56:57 AM

You have a monitor,keyboard and mouse correct ? If not you need that to of course lol.
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November 24, 2012 6:32:29 AM

Well I have a Logitech g510 keyboard and a razor naga mouse should be good. Monitor different story... Also I'm thinking of running 2 7970 ghz sapphires. And as for mobo can upgrade to asus Maximus ? Or no? I want to be able to run almost every game out there at max settings. And is there any better ram? I heard that g skill is not to good but I don't know a lot haha.
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November 25, 2012 4:52:18 AM

So having a computer with the maximus board and 32gb ram over kill? I just want the best setup i can have an almost be able to run anything at 100fps
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November 25, 2012 5:13:43 AM

trevor1030 said:
So having a computer with the maximus board and 32gb ram over kill? I just want the best setup i can have an almost be able to run anything at 100fps


Only like hardcore CS5 use and CAD/rendering uses will you need that much RAM. For everyday uses and gaming you'll never come close to using it all and you won't for several years. You don't need a motherboard that expensive for most uses.
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November 25, 2012 5:20:09 AM

i use 16gb in my alienware i like it alot doesnt hurt to have 16 i think... and as for the cooler would i be ok with the h100? I mean like i said i would run 2 sli or crossfire with those sapphire radeons 7970 hopefully i could run most games at max settings...
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November 25, 2012 5:34:35 AM

trevor1030 said:
i use 16gb in my alienware i like it alot doesnt hurt to have 16 i think... and as for the cooler would i be ok with the h100? I mean like i said i would run 2 sli or crossfire with those sapphire radeons 7970 hopefully i could run most games at max settings...


Yeah it doesn't hurt but that's not really the place to spend money on a rig. I hate plastic water blocks like the H100 - if you're going to use liquid cooling use the real thing or not at all. Go with a strong air fan like the Noctua D14.

A single 7970 will max out everything. Two will get you well beyond 110 FPS.
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November 25, 2012 5:38:52 AM

Is it because the plastic water blocks work crappy? Or do they work ok you just dont like them and ok sounds good 2 7970 work amazing i hope! Better then nvidia it looks like after browsing this thread. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... is this mobo to much? i want to make sure nothing lacks performance i know the most important parts to my knowledge are the CPU and GPU so i wanted to make sure my Mobo could handle it! which ram would you recommend for 16gb?
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November 25, 2012 5:50:08 AM

trevor1030 said:
Is it because the plastic water blocks work crappy? Or do they work ok you just dont like them and ok sounds good 2 7970 work amazing i hope! Better then nvidia it looks like after browsing this thread. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... is this mobo to much? i want to make sure nothing lacks performance i know the most important parts to my knowledge are the CPU and GPU so i wanted to make sure my Mobo could handle it! which ram would you recommend for 16gb?


For one thing the radiators on the plastic blocks are really noisy and the fans that are included with the H100 are extremely sub par, especially for Corsair who usually makes good stuff. I hear the new H100i has good fans but I'm not sure how far I would trust it.

Yeah that motherboard is a bit expensive. Go with the Gigabyte UD4 - it's $100 cheaper and includes Thunderbolt.

For RAM I would recommend one of the following:
- G.Skill Ares: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
- Mushkin Blackline: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
- Kingston Hyper X: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
- Corsair Vengeance: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
- Crucial Ballistix: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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November 25, 2012 6:43:39 AM

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/pmMn

Final Build seems legit i think should be a beast when overclocked... I was wondering if my estimated wattage is 740 should i run an 800 or 850 ? thanks!
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November 25, 2012 8:12:33 AM

The new fans are "ok" i would at least keep them over the old stock fans but you can also go with regular H100 and buy 2 SP120 fans.

the H100i does give some nice flex and has Corsair link if you are into that kinds of things.

also @OP, the sabortooth actually keeps the heat inside the mobo, change it into a Gigabyte UP4 which pretty much has all you need and more

i would also cut out the WD and use a Seagate barracuda 2TB at $70

change win7 into win8 saves that little bit and you can pretty much convert it into a win7 look because i hate that metro look.

lower the PSU into this one
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seasonic-power-supply-x850

cheaper and the HX series uses this PSU as a base

and that build looks pretty nice to me
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November 25, 2012 4:30:41 PM

Well your going to be mad but that power supply is no good sorry here go for this if your that strung out on getting H-100 buy it at a later i made sure you kept everything else including your overkill 16gb ram lol. http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ppIZ
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November 25, 2012 11:49:59 PM

boulbox said:
looks pretty sick,


as i said you can just change win 7 to win 8 and then customize win8 to look like win7
http://windows8startbutton.com/

get this combo instead
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

i like the ASrock extreme6 a bit more than ASUS pro and it is cheaper
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-z77extr...
That combo has a locked cpu bro.He should just get two 670's or 7950 the cards and the H-100 he wants is what's killing his budget.
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November 26, 2012 5:00:05 AM

Well is hyrdo cooling a no go? I mean i thought the reviews seemed alright..
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November 26, 2012 5:04:57 AM

It's because a $60 air cooler is just as good it's not that it's bad just not a good deal.
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November 26, 2012 5:08:32 AM

ok so switch to a noctua? or whats a solid cpu cooler? your using a maximus iv extreme haha that was one i wanted!
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November 26, 2012 5:10:18 AM

Yeah NH-D14 and you could of had this mobo but you decided to get two 7970GHz instead of two 670's so your budget does not allow it lol.
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November 26, 2012 5:14:32 AM

how much performance will be sac if i did two 670s instead of the 7970ghz?
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November 26, 2012 5:19:12 AM

Well there are three different 670 that are non reference factory overclocked to stock 680 speed this chart shows 680 vs 7970GHZ with the latest drivers so as you can see it's not a big difference however 7970GHz wins.

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November 26, 2012 5:23:44 AM

Well is running 2 680s better then 2 7970s i would be ok going a little over 2k just not a whole lot!
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November 26, 2012 5:30:07 AM

Just get two 670's or two 7970's 680's are not worth the price.I have two 670's i can violently murder all games with ease!
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November 26, 2012 5:35:24 AM

can i run your board and two 670s?
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November 26, 2012 5:38:43 AM

Want proof look here read it and remember those are reference 670's used in test and drivers have since this review been updated and performance is 10% better now as if it was not good enough already lmao!! http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_6... 7970GHZ have had driver updates as well that lead to better performance like i said your not making a bad choice either way.
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November 26, 2012 5:47:58 AM

so what about a asus maximus v and 2 670s? and a set of 16gb or 8gb of ram at 2133?
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November 26, 2012 5:51:11 AM

No you cannot you missed the sale sorry if you would have bought it when you asked then you could have sucks oh well the 670's are back at normal price
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November 26, 2012 5:57:35 AM

Awe man you really missed out dam it!The monitor is even $250 now grrrr f ing newegg!!!
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