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November 24, 2012 4:01:41 AM

Hello, Im building a Budget PC, I'm new to the PC world and have been doing homework all about it for the last couple months. My goal with this pc is to sell some stuff i to pay for this build. I plan to use Linux Ubuntu for my OS, and my uses for this pc is to do low-end gaming like MineCraft and maybe CoD4 & CoD5, with some minor editing for youtube videos.

Mini ITX MB /CPU Combo:
GIGABYTE GA-E350N /AMD E-350D APU (Dual Core)- 75$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU:
PC Power and Cooling Silencer MK III 400W Modular 80PLUS Bronze- 70$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SSD:
Crucial V4 2.5" 32GB SATA II SSD- 50$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

mATX/mITX Case:
Fractal Design Core 1000- 47$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM:
G.SKILL (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM 1333 (PC3 10600)- 34$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Others:

VANTEC 2.5" to 3.5" Mounting Kit- 7$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Others that will be bought at a later date:

NZXT Sentry Mesh Fan Controller w/ five 30w Channels- 25$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

APEVIA 120mm Green LED Case Fan- 9$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

APEVIA 80mm Green LED Case Fan- 7$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

The build comes out to about 280$ (without the bottom 3 items)

I'm pretty sure that all these parts are compatible but I'm not 1000% sure. Also i will be using a 16GB USB Flash Drive to store stuff like Pictures, Videos, etc.

Please comment if these parts are all 1000% compatible and or if you have a suggestions or comments.

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November 24, 2012 4:37:26 AM

For that case, its Mini-ATX/ATX. it doesn't Fit my Mini-ITX motherboard.
The link for the PSU came up as "BAD REQUEST" and im pretty confident in my PSU.
I will be adding a HDD once the build is done and i can afford one, but i like the one you suggested
As of your RAM, i've heard there isnt much difference once you get 1333 and pass it, but i like the RAM you gave me and i'm considering getting that one instead.
Also, i dont believe your Graphic card works with my MB. I've had some trouble looking for one for that MB.
November 24, 2012 4:41:20 AM

May i ask why Mini-ITX though?
November 24, 2012 4:46:47 AM

i wanted to get this mini-ITX mb because:
1. i wanted to save money and labor by getting a MB w/ a CPU combo
2. 95% of the MB/CPU combos are mini-ITX
3. This is under the few that has a Dual-core CPU
4. its says to have decent on-board graphics
November 24, 2012 4:54:42 AM

I understand that, However In years to come that would easily be trashed out,especially if you want to at-least run a smoothly whats your budget for this computer? Asrock Mobos are very good in quality (Most 500$ Budget Rigs Uses These).. And they are very cheap. If your budget match i could link you a asrock mobo with a cpu that will hang with you way longer then that would. You'd sooner or later replace them both but with that you'd replace it way faster and, like me im sure you'd want to set a spot so when you get extra cash you could upgrade your system. But with Mini-ITX Your so very limited.... if you'd decide you want a new graphics card etc... you'd just end up buying a hold new MOBO... just my opinion.

So a good plan is get a decent MOBO and CPU (That has nice graphics) and other required parts (usually under 400) so you can upgrade...... but it all depends on your graphics.
November 24, 2012 5:00:48 AM

my budget is 300$ to get me started and with other money in the future for upgrade like you said and i would love to see that link.
i agree with a mini itx mobo being limited.
November 24, 2012 5:02:30 AM

Your computer works . Its not powerful and wont be an effective gamer . The AMD e series is a netbook processor originally .

mini_ITX motherboards are tiny with almost no expansion slots . Usually just one . On that motherboard its a legacy pci slot that cannot take a modern graphics card .
The case is actually a m_ATX case which is why the power supply fits . It can take a much larger motherboard

I think your results will be marginal at best
November 24, 2012 5:20:00 AM

That is true.. However this is such a good starting point that can be upgraded

Case:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
HDD:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
CPU:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Mobo:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Ram::http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
PSU:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Now you can upgrade in the future without spending unnecessary money, +If its to far over budget you can find a cheaper case..

The Total IS 345.94$!

So if you ever get into Hardcore Gaming or want to go into medium settings pop a Graphics card in it NP!
The Thing is being EXPANDABLE.... especially at a low budget..... id rather start off then get something that isn't that powerful or will do your gaming needs..
You do want to play without lagging every minute right! just my opinion!
Your choice!
November 24, 2012 5:30:18 AM

NoobsRus, the HDD and the CPU have the same link. its missing the link to the CPU.
November 24, 2012 5:35:09 AM

also the PSU link is the CPU link, missing PSU link
November 24, 2012 5:39:32 AM

2 Fails in a row KML!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

A power supply with 430 Watts! meaning (guessing if you upgrade to a graphics card it wont need anymore then that)

Like i said for a low budget get a starting point like me! and continue to build till its BOSS

Other Powersupply you listed was so expensive and you can get the same quality from corsair and get like a 700w for 80 bucks...
November 24, 2012 5:50:03 AM

haha well its almost 3:00 am for me for i dont have to much energy left in me but um.. i noticed that that mobo doesnt have any on board video that means you need a graphics card to get video output and if you are going to buy a Graphics card, you would buy a good one the first time and not a low-end one, then a good one. its kinda a waste of money in my opinion.
November 24, 2012 5:51:22 AM

The cpu comes with graphics.
November 24, 2012 5:55:57 AM

it does, how? are you saying it comes with a graphics card?

November 24, 2012 6:05:11 AM

In a better since, most ASROCK mobos dont have graphics but the cpu you pick does. and if you don't want to use hdmi inputs you can buy a cheap adapter...
November 24, 2012 6:18:58 AM

someone just posted a review on my mobo saying it can run cod4 on high settings @ 30-40 fps for me if a ran it @ med it would be pretty good BUT im starting to get what you mean about future upgrades. and i saw the CPU comes w/ graphics, can you tell me more on how that works? cause im really considering your mobo and cpu
November 24, 2012 6:23:17 AM

also iroinicly i just tryed to look at the review for the mobo again and its not there, he must have deleted it.... :/ 
November 24, 2012 6:26:47 AM

AMD A6-5400K Trinity 3.6GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) Socket FM2 65W Dual-Core Desktop APU (CPU + GPU) with DirectX 11 Graphic AMD Radeon HD 7540D AD540KOKHJBOX

The GPU is on the same chip (or die) as the cpu, allowing them to cowork on mainly multitasking, rendering, and streaming.
Most or the latest cpu's have their own gpu integrated on, but in terms of basic gaming or streaming above 720p a dedicated gpu would be recommended. With Nvidia's Ion or AMD's APU design it works nicely as a media pc or small gaming machine.

If you notice that the asrocks i linked u says some like Graphics only onboard if used with cpu.
November 24, 2012 6:28:31 AM

if you youtube 500$ gaming build alot of people use that for gaming... actually i was using it for gaming xD
November 24, 2012 6:32:47 AM

so with that cpu installed i could used the vga port from the mobo and revieved the graphic spec it says for the cpu?
November 24, 2012 6:48:25 AM

you conviced me bro ima drop the mini-itx mobo and get that mobo and cpu but im keep every thing else the same. ill have to save money a little longer but im sure it will be worth it. now does all the parts i got now are compatible? (:
November 24, 2012 1:09:06 PM

Yeah all the parts are compatible and id recommend the ram that dawei linked and yes you'd spend more up front but you'd save more in the long run

November 24, 2012 3:09:27 PM

haha yeah i always miss those "OUT OF STOCK" sign, but the RAM you suggested was in my top 5 but, i agree then i'll go with that RAM. (:
November 24, 2012 3:41:14 PM

Wisecracker, that chart is a little hard for me to read (not physically) but i would be grateful if you wrote a overview of that chart and what it means.
November 24, 2012 5:46:01 PM


It's the Trinity APU game performance.

November 24, 2012 7:27:03 PM

Graphics performance of the Trinity APU improves with faster RAM , because the system RAM is also the graphics RAM

This RAM is rated 1600 MHz at 1.35 volts
Kingston HyperX 8GB (2 x 4GB) $43
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

You can manually set it to 1.5 volts and 1866 MHz
Potentially it could go higher with more changes to the timings , but APU is only rated for 1866 MHz anyway
November 24, 2012 8:51:59 PM

So, well how is this for my Budget low-end gaming setup (w/ room to upgrade)

MoBo: ASRock FM2A55M-DGS FM2 AMD A55 (Hudson D2) Micro ATX AMD Motherboard- 55$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

APU: AMD A6-5400K Trinity 3.6GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) Socket FM2 65W Dual-Core Desktop APU (CPU + GPU) with DirectX 11 Graphic AMD Radeon HD 7540D AD540KOKHJBOX- 75$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBRL- 25$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU:
PC Power and Cooling Silencer MK III 400W Modular 80PLUS Bronze- 70$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817703034

SSD:
Crucial V4 2.5" 32GB SATA II SSD- 50$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820148579

mATX/mITX Case:
Fractal Design Core 1000- 47$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811352009
November 24, 2012 9:39:19 PM

but the dual core trinity cpu sound like it can handle minecraft on HQ pretty well and im sure COD4 & COD5 would run pretty good on MQ but thats all the gamming ill do at max
November 24, 2012 10:09:45 PM

the dual core trinitys performance is not enough
November 24, 2012 10:10:38 PM




The shaders on the Trinity APU make a big difference in MC ... I doubt it would make as big a difference in COD, especially with fast RAMS and an OC, but it's definitely there.

November 24, 2012 10:20:15 PM

@Wisecracker so do you know how well i would be able to run MC & CoD 4 & 5 w/ the trinity?

@Outlander do you know a better APU (maybe different MoBo) Im only willing to spend 130$ MAX for bothe the APU & MoBO
November 24, 2012 10:44:17 PM



I gots no hands-on experience yet ... sorry.

When ahhhh-Seus and Giga-Byte roll out some nice ITX mobos I'm going to snag a A8-5600K Trinity APU.

The 5600K is likely a good bet but $140-$150 is the best you will find at this time --- unless Cyber Monday brings pleasant surprises.

There has been a $10-off promo code in the last 2-3 weeks on the 5600k that might help you. Keep an eye out for that.


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