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Upgrading from GTS250 on outdated system

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October 1, 2012 12:31:24 AM

Hey guys, I'm new to the forum, and need some advice regarding an upgrade. I saw the post regarding how to ask, so I'll post that now:

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: Around Christmas this year.

BUDGET RANGE: Preferably $200 or less, but needs to be powerful enough to max BF3 without AA (I don't mind aliasing)

USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Gaming, games such as Crysis, Battlefield 3, and Crysis 2.

CURRENT GPU AND POWER SUPPLY: GTS 250 and current PSU is irrelevant because I'll be upgrading to a 750 watt unit of good quality later.

OTHER RELEVANT SYSTEM SPECS: I have a Q6600 @ 2.4Ghz ( Will be overclocked) and I am buying a new motherboard for this. Probably an ASUS P5N of some type (used) 8GB ddr2 RAM.

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: I like Tigerdirect and Newegg, but will even go to eBay if needed.

PARTS PREFERENCES: none, whichever is the best deal

OVERCLOCKING: Yes

SLI OR CROSSFIRE: No

MONITOR RESOLUTION: 1680x1050

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: Must max BF3, Crysis, and Crysis 2 at my resolution. I will eventually upgrade CPU, but my mind right now is set on GPU. If I get bottlenecking, at least I'll still be better off than I was before, and when I upgrade CPU in time I'll be able to move the GPU over and have a good match.

Thanks in advance for any advice

October 1, 2012 12:46:15 AM

well I haven't got time to look yet but check out the GTX 660 and the HD 7850

They may be a slight bit over budget maybe about +$20-$30

Check here > http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-660-gef...

The 7850 is slighter better with high resolutions but the 660 overall is a much more powerful card.

GTX 660 > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
HD 7850 > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Sorry I don't have much time... it's 2am and I gotta be up in morning lol
Hope this helps!
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October 1, 2012 12:48:57 AM

A GTX 560ti 448 Cores, or a GTX 470 which is currently $120 at EVGA.
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October 1, 2012 12:49:14 AM

in these benchmarks the GTX 660 is more or less the same performance as the $250 HD 7870
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October 1, 2012 12:55:36 AM

From the advice gotten in this thread so far, I'm leaning towards the 7850 because it is close to my price range. at my resolution, is it worth going up any further?
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October 1, 2012 12:59:03 AM

No, not really. In fact I'd even grab the GTX 470, it's about half the price.
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October 1, 2012 1:00:08 AM

If the 470 does everything in my original post, that sounds like a steal to me. I'll look it up. Thanks!


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October 1, 2012 1:01:14 AM

If you're running at 1680x1050 you may be able to get away with a 560 to be honest... and the bench tests I linked are with AA enabled and completely maxed out.

I'm running an OC'd GTS 450 and I can play games with med-high graphics at 1080p (40fps is the lowest I like my framerates). Although I'm thinking of buying a GTX 660 or maybe the Ti version if I have enough money.
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October 1, 2012 1:03:34 AM

I'm mainly concerned with BF3 and Crysis right now. How long you think a 560ti or 470 will last me at my resolution? I don't think I'm going to upgrade my monitor anytime soon.
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October 1, 2012 1:04:49 AM

thunder490 said:
I'm mainly concerned with BF3 and Crysis right now. How long you think a 560ti will last me at my resolution? I don't think I'm going to upgrade my monitor anytime soon.

470 is a lower clocked GTX 560ti 448 Cores, by default it's faster than the 560ti.
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October 1, 2012 1:06:57 AM

from what I'm seeing I can get a 470 cheaper as well. I think that's what I'm going for. How badly will it be bottlenecked by my cpu? as long as I can stay above 45 I'm content.
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October 1, 2012 1:11:28 AM

thunder490 said:
from what I'm seeing I can get a 470 cheaper as well. I think that's what I'm going for. How badly will it be bottlenecked by my cpu? as long as I can stay above 45 I'm content.

Aim for at least 3ghz, try to hit 3.5ghz. There really shouldn't be a bottleneck when you are around those speeds.
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October 1, 2012 1:14:18 AM

amuffin said:
470 is a lower clocked GTX 560ti 448 Cores, by default it's faster than the 560ti.



Isn't the GTX 560 slighter faster then the 470? although it has a smaller memory bus it makes up for that with its higher memory frequency.

But I do agree a GTX 470 for $120 as long as you're not concerned about power usage is a pretty good deal. I looked around on newegg and the cheapest 560 was $170
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October 1, 2012 1:20:46 AM

Wouldn't overclocking the 470 even out the 560 and 470? It would be raising the memory clocks after all. I'm not familiar with these newer architectures, I'm used to my 250 which barely overclocks at all
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October 1, 2012 1:22:25 AM

honestly i would get a gtx 660 or 7850, it will probly last longer
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October 1, 2012 1:27:50 AM

thunder490 said:
Wouldn't overclocking the 470 even out the 560 and 470? It would be raising the memory clocks after all. I'm not familiar with these newer architectures, I'm used to my 250 which barely overclocks at all



Yeah it should be fine... like I said it's only slightly behind.

Here's like to Nvidia site for benchmarks on selected cards > http://www.geforce.com/optimize/optimal-game-settings/B...


I also found a video on youtube with an overclocked Q6600 @ 3.5ghz and GTX 470 the uploader claims he gets 60fps on Battlefield with High settings, no AA.

Hope this helps.
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October 1, 2012 1:30:23 AM

I think I'm going with the GTX 470. Thanks to everyone that posted. Now here's a noob question. Am I supposed to close this thread somehow or does a mod come along and do it? Sorry new to forums in general
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October 1, 2012 1:33:22 AM

Best answer selected by Thunder490.
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October 1, 2012 1:33:50 AM

thunder490 said:
I think I'm going with the GTX 470. Thanks to everyone that posted. Now here's a noob question. Am I supposed to close this thread somehow or does a mod come along and do it? Sorry new to forums in general


Erm you're supposed to choose the best answer but if you've accidentally opened it as a dicussion you can't (don't worry I always do that hahaha)

You have opened it as a question though so yeah select best answer
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October 1, 2012 1:49:26 AM

Alright then, thanks for all the advice.
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