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1st time building, 1000€ Decent Gaming PC

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Hellow fellas,

I've been reading a lot here and I've decided not to go with a Dell but to go build my own computer!
I've heard it's not too difficult so why not right :) 

Anyway, here are the specs I'm looking for.

Approximate Purchase Date: Before Christmas!

Budget Range: 1000€ Max
System Usage from Most to Least Important: Mostly Gaming, no special video editing or something.

Parts Not Required: The 1000€ budget is for the PC, but will be needing a Max 200€ monitor as well.

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Ireland retailers: www.dabs.ie, www.pixmania.ie, www.komplett.ie.

Country: Ireland.

Parts Preferences: no real preferences.

Overclocking: Maybe, would like to have the option, but won't be using it straight away.

SLI or Crossfire: Maybe , but probably not.

Monitor Resolution: Looking for a monitor with 1920x1080, 1920x1200.

Additional Comments: As I said, I'm looking for a decent Gaming PC, doesn't have to be the best, but it would be nice to run games like SW ToR, WoW on Ultra and probably some other games like BF3, CoD BO2.

Now I have to say I am not an expert whatsoever on parts, but this is what I've came up with so far:

Processor: Intel Core i5-3570k http://www.dabs.ie/products/intel-core-i5-3570k-s1155-3-4ghz-6mb-7YXJ.html?q=3570k&src=16

Motherboard No idea tbh, I did find this combination of Processor Motherboard and Ram, but don't know if it's any good: http://www.dabs.ie/products/asus-intel-performance-bundle--includes-p8z77-v-lx--intel-core-i5-3570k---8gb-black-mamba-ddr3--8BPY.html?q=3570k&src=16

Video Card Ati Radeon 7870 http://www.dabs.ie/products/sapphire-technology-ati-radeon-7870-1000mhz-2gb-pci-express-3-0-hdmi-80T7.html?q=7870&src=16

Memory 8GB or maybe even 16GB, it's not that expensive.

Storage WD 2TB http://www.dabs.ie/products/western-digital-2tb-green-sata-600-64mb-3-5--7G12.html

DVD Drive Samsung SH-222BB http://www.dabs.ie/products/samsung-sh-222bb-rsms-22x-dvd-writer-sata-retail--3-bezels--7Z3Q.html

Cooling No Idea, need some help here.

PSU Same.

Casing Same.

OS Windows 8. http://www.dabs.ie/products/microsoft-windows-8---64-bit---1-pc---dvd-8BMS.html?q=windows%208&src=16



Si there anything else I need?
Is a soundcard needed for instance? Or is that included into the motherboard/processor?

If I take the processor + motherboard + ram I linked and include the RAM, Storage, DVD and Video Card I would get to aroun 820€, leaving a 180€ for the Cooling/Case/PSU stuff.

Your input will be greatly appreciated :-)

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That build looks pretty good. That hard drive will be a major bottleneck on your system - you'll need at least 7200 RPM. Unless you're getting an SSD then that doesn't matter. You'll want to add an aftermarket cooler like the Hyper 212 Evo if you want to get the 3570K. If you're not overclocking you could drop the CPU and motherboard to i5-3470 and H77 and then upgrade your GPU to the 7950. Sound cards are not needed - the built in audio on your motherboard works fine.

Thanks for that g-unit1111,

I don't really need the overclocking ability (not even sure if I would ever use it) so it does makes sense to then go for the i5-3470!
So how about these 3 togther:
i5-3470 http://www.dabs.ie/products/intel-core-i5-3470-s1155-3-...
Asus p8h77 http://www.dabs.ie/products/asus-p8h77-v-le-s1155-intel...
16GB Corsair DDR3 16000 Mhz. http://www.dabs.ie/products/corsair-16gb--2-x-8gb--xms3...

I also came a cross this combination of the i5 proccessor + mobo + ram:
http://komplett.ie/Komplett/product/upgrade_kits_intel/...

Both come down to pretty much the same price (little over 350€), including 16GB ram, just with a different mobo, dunno what you would recommend?

Another thing I was thinking was that I don't know if it's worth saving the ~35€ and going for 8GB Ram instead of 16GB?



Upgrading to the 7950 seems nice and found SAPPHIRE TECHNOLOGY Radeon HD 7950 Boost - 3 GB GDDR5 - PCI Express 3.0 (11196-16-20G) for 280€.
http://www.pixmania.ie/ie/uk/12844795/art/sapphire-tech...

What you stated about the HDD I didn't realise I picked a 'crappy' one, I found a ''Seagate 2TB Barracuda SATA 6Gb/s 64MB 7200RPM Hard Drive'' for ~90€.
http://www.dabs.ie/products/seagate-2tb-barracuda-sata-...
(SSD I will probably buy in a later stadium).

Then I need some advice on the PSU/Cooling and Casing. I'm a total noob when it comes to this.
What do I need to look for with this, could you perhaps give some examples that would work fine with this build?

Thanks!!

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I also came a cross this combination of the i5 proccessor + mobo + ram:
http://komplett.ie/Komplett/produc [...] tails.aspx


For gaming you won't need 16GB of RAM - and lose the Vengeance RAM with the tall heat sinks. That motherboard and CPU is a good combo.

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Another thing I was thinking was that I don't know if it's worth saving the ~35€ and going for 8GB Ram instead of 16GB?


Yeah the RAM is one of the least important parts of a rig. It's needed but it's not really where the money should be spent. That should go to either the CPU or GPU.

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Upgrading to the 7950 seems nice and found SAPPHIRE TECHNOLOGY Radeon HD 7950 Boost - 3 GB GDDR5 - PCI Express 3.0 (11196-16-20G) for 280€.
http://www.pixmania.ie/ie/uk/12844 [...] pix-review


That is a good choice. I have two of the 7870 version of that card and they are amazing.

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What you stated about the HDD I didn't realise I picked a 'crappy' one, I found a ''Seagate 2TB Barracuda SATA 6Gb/s 64MB 7200RPM Hard Drive'' for ~90€.
http://www.dabs.ie/products/seagat [...] 0000&src=3
(SSD I will probably buy in a later stadium).


I'm not saying the hard drive is crappy but if you're using that as your primary it will slow down your machine. If you were using an SSD as your primary with that as your secondary that wouldn't matter.

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Then I need some advice on the PSU/Cooling and Casing. I'm a total noob when it comes to this.
What do I need to look for with this, could you perhaps give some examples that would work fine with this build?


That depends on what you want to spend in this area. Cheap power supplies are not worth it, I've seen and used some really bad ones and have had them blow up and short out. And on your budget I would not recommend skimping on the case either.

Thanks.

Alright, dropping the RAM to 8GB.

How about this for a combination PSU & Case:

Case: http://www.dabs.ie/products/xigmatek-midgard-mid-tower-...
PSU: http://www.dabs.ie/products/xigmatek-600w-tauro-80-plus...

This case look 'cool', but dunno if it's any good: http://www.dabs.ie/products/gigabyte-gz-g2-gaming-case-...

I'd rather pay a few bucks more now, so I know I have a good quality case and PSU then to save money on that to end up having it blow.

A friend told me I could drop down the Mobo from the h77 to one like this (b75): http://www.dabs.ie/products/gigabyte-b75m-d3h-s1155-int...
What do you think about that?

cheers

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How about this for a combination PSU & Case:

Case: http://www.dabs.ie/products/xigmat [...] html?src=3
PSU: http://www.dabs.ie/products/xigmat [...] -8BQP.html


I really dislike Xigmatek - I wouldn't trust that power supply and the case is OK - there's definitely better ones you could go with. I would suggest these for cases:

- Corsair 200R: http://www.dabs.ie/products/corsair-carbide-series-200r...
- Antec 300 V2: http://www.dabs.ie/products/antec-300-three-hundred-two...


Then for power supply:

- Corsair CX600: http://www.dabs.ie/products/corsair-600w-builder-series...
- XFX Core Edition: http://www.dabs.ie/products/xfx-550-watt-core-edition-f...

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A friend told me I could drop down the Mobo from the h77 to one like this (b75): http://www.dabs.ie/products/gigaby [...] -8012.html
What do you think about that?


Not really worth it - B75 really limits expansion and there's a lot of outdated ports on it that you'll never use. Stick with H77. If you want to pay more here go with a low end Z77 or Z75 board.
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