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October 3, 2012 10:01:25 AM

Hi guys,

Basically, I bought myself a MSI 660ti from ebuyer last night for next day delivery. Came this morning, plugged it into my pc, connected the 2x 6pin connectors. PC didn't start up, didn't even power up.

I then took out the connectors, started the PC and the message: "PLEASE INSERT THE PCI-E POWER CONNECTORS INTO THE GRAPHICS CARD". I turned off the computer. Plugged them in. And this time it started... However, about 10 seconds later, I smelt smoke, there was a large spark and i immediately turned off the power from the plug.

This is my PSU http://www.ebuyer.com/200491-coolermaster-gx-650w-psu-r... so I don't think there is any problem there, do you guys think it could be just a dodgy card?

I've already RMA'd the card and it's being collected, I'm just interested as to what may of caused the problem.

Cheers

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a c 185 U Graphics card
October 3, 2012 10:08:19 AM

Two things your Power supply is no good Tier 4 - Not Recommend for stressful situations. May not be able to put out full rated power above room temperature, and may fail to meet ATX specs. Source: http://www.eggxpert.com/forums/permalink/323050/323050/... or it could be because of this read this thread http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/page-18013_55_50.html... though i doubt this was the cause as i have two MSI 670 PE and have no such issues the whole thing seems fishy to me on all parts so i am not sure what to believe but MSI will replace it so no worries you have a warranty
October 3, 2012 10:11:31 AM

Ok, thanks for your reply. Do you have a PSU you can recommend?
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a b U Graphics card
October 3, 2012 11:07:43 AM

lol MSI typical what do you expect?

most likely send for warranty + replace psu

the original psu isnt as bad as people are suggesting but its far from good (iv seen a lot worse used)
October 3, 2012 12:30:33 PM

Thanks for your comments guys, I've spoken to a few more people and they've said my PSU should be absolutely fine for the GPU and that I've just had "bad luck" with the card I got.

Do you guys think it's more likely that's its just the card?
a c 172 U Graphics card
October 3, 2012 1:07:37 PM

Superflower units are not as good as they are made out to be, I got a NZXT unit 1kw that I had coughed up $210 for last year and it died. Don't buy any units made by them even if they are under different brands. Seasonic made units are the way to go.

As for your card a lose connection will cause problems like this but never know there would have been a short the whole time. Sometimes lose solder can make its way across areas that it shouldn't be.
October 3, 2012 2:59:52 PM

nforce4max said:
Superflower units are not as good as they are made out to be, I got a NZXT unit 1kw that I had coughed up $210 for last year and it died. Don't buy any units made by them even if they are under different brands. Seasonic made units are the way to go.

As for your card a lose connection will cause problems like this but never know there would have been a short the whole time. Sometimes lose solder can make its way across areas that it shouldn't be.


Is the second point true?!
October 4, 2012 8:06:05 AM

Any further suggestions?
a c 109 U Graphics card
October 4, 2012 8:08:17 AM

nforce4max said:
Superflower units are not as good as they are made out to be, I got a NZXT unit 1kw that I had coughed up $210 for last year and it died. Don't buy any units made by them even if they are under different brands. Seasonic made units are the way to go.

As for your card a lose connection will cause problems like this but never know there would have been a short the whole time. Sometimes lose solder can make its way across areas that it shouldn't be.

I thought Superflower was one of the good ones?

Currently the good ones are:
Seasonic
Delta
Enermax
FSP
CWT
a c 185 U Graphics card
October 4, 2012 8:22:17 AM

amuffin said:
I thought Superflower was one of the good ones?

Currently the good ones are:
Seasonic
Delta
Enermax
FSP
CWT
They are good amuffin he just had a bad experience it happens sometimes this has left him bitter towards the company i am sure he has his reasons.

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October 4, 2012 8:44:04 AM

bigcyco1 said:
They are good amuffin he just had a bad experience it happens sometimes this has left him bitter towards the company i am sure he has his reasons ;)  i rate it more like Excellent
Seasonic
Sirtec
Enhance
Etatis
Impervio
Delta
Wintact
Flextronics

Good
Super Flower (borderline Excellent)
FSP (borderline Fair)
Seventeam
Acbel (borderline Fair)
Great Wall

F


And I thought from what they've said that seventeam was bad?
a c 185 U Graphics card
October 4, 2012 9:12:59 AM

xaos24 said:
And I thought from what they've said that seventeam was bad?
Depends you can't judge only by company that would be stupid. As much as the power (Watts) requirement matters, the current requirement, measured in Amps is as important if not even more important. This is especially true if you have a or several dedicated video card(s). As a general rule of thumb, you’re aiming for the highest number on the 12V line.Though i shouldn't of wrote that list period as it doesn't apply to picking a good power supply
October 4, 2012 10:42:37 AM

Just received this email from MSI:

"Hi Matthew,


I believe your graphic card was faulty, cause GeForce GTX 660 Ti works fine with 450-500 PSU already.

Plus if smokes comes out it means there was a short circuit in the board. If not enough power the card will only malfunction or not power up at all."

And then they said:

"I contacted our technical department to get an answer to your questions.
Their answer is:

Please use the following link about Nvidia to find information about the minimal required powersupply:
http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gt...
650W should be sufficient.
We can’t judge if the powersupply or the PSU caused the problems based on the given information, but I think it is fair to expect that the VGA is broken now :) "

^ Thanks for clarifying that MSI.
a c 185 U Graphics card
October 4, 2012 12:11:10 PM

I had a strong feeling it was that i seen one of those same model psu shoot sparks out of it so are they going to replace it ?
October 4, 2012 12:22:23 PM

No, it wasn't the PSU that had smoke coming out of it, it was the GPU
October 4, 2012 12:32:38 PM

But yes, the supplier is going to replace the GPU, or if they can't because it's out of stock, send me a 670 instead :)  :p 
a c 185 U Graphics card
October 4, 2012 12:38:45 PM

Yeah i figured they would i never had trouble with them anyway glad it's all worked out hopefully you'll be getting that card soon good luck!
a c 185 U Graphics card
October 4, 2012 12:42:34 PM

Defmute said:
No, it wasn't the PSU that had smoke coming out of it, it was the GPU
oh i misunderstood well like i mentioned i seen that power supply shoot sparks out it killed my buddies mobo to :pfff:  but that's what happens when you use bad rated power supplies :( 
October 4, 2012 12:45:45 PM

bigcyco1 said:
oh i misunderstood well like i mentioned i seen that power supply shoot sparks out it killed my buddies mobo to :pfff:  but that's what happens when you use bad rated power supplies :( 


Yeah I plan on upgrading my PSU soon thanks for your advice :) 
a c 185 U Graphics card
October 4, 2012 12:50:02 PM

Your very welcome it's no problem that's what i am here for lol take care. :hello: 
a c 172 U Graphics card
October 4, 2012 6:07:25 PM

amuffin said:
I thought Superflower was one of the good ones?

Currently the good ones are:
Seasonic
Delta
Enermax
FSP
CWT


Their performance is Good and nothing to look down on but there are still problems that creep up. My unit had no problems but one day I got coil squeal then it went away for a few months then one day the system crashed. Traced the problem down to the psu and to be specific the eps phase that drives the cpu failed. The second phased worked for a while but that unit never did work with that board again. The unit lasted only a month more with a 775 xfx 780i then it died. Power from the 24pin main atx was present as the leds on the board came up but the unit would never switch back on. Looking at other customer reviews people are having similar issues. One blew the breaker when it went out. :ouch: 
October 5, 2012 1:33:07 AM

Defmute said:
Hi guys,

Basically, I bought myself a MSI 660ti from ebuyer last night for next day delivery. Came this morning, plugged it into my pc, connected the 2x 6pin connectors. PC didn't start up, didn't even power up.

I then took out the connectors, started the PC and the message: "PLEASE INSERT THE PCI-E POWER CONNECTORS INTO THE GRAPHICS CARD". I turned off the computer. Plugged them in. And this time it started... However, about 10 seconds later, I smelt smoke, there was a large spark and i immediately turned off the power from the plug.

This is my PSU http://www.ebuyer.com/200491-coolermaster-gx-650w-psu-r... so I don't think there is any problem there, do you guys think it could be just a dodgy card?

I've already RMA'd the card and it's being collected, I'm just interested as to what may of caused the problem.

Cheers



http://www.tomshardware.com/news/MSI-GTX-660-670-overvo...

This is it!

It causes some PCs not to boot, and if there is a week connection... it wont... so yeat MSI screwed all of us... Maybe. I have a PC power and cooling Silencer MKII 750W and its fine but... yeah thats dumb... they should give me the difference i paid and the shipping i paid for this version
October 5, 2012 1:50:19 AM

Should all owners worry.. To me it sounds like if your going to have problems with it... Bits going to be right away
a c 185 U Graphics card
October 5, 2012 1:55:42 AM

I don't think so msi has to back up their warranty on the cards i have two msi 670 pe not a dam thing wrong with them so this might be something they only did with the 660 ti and 660 not sure but i wouldn't return my cards even if they asked me to lol there something bigger going on then most are catching onto but i am not going to say because i have no proof
October 5, 2012 2:12:19 AM

I have a 660ti... No problem yet
a c 503 U Graphics card
October 5, 2012 2:33:29 AM

bigcyco1 said:
oh i misunderstood well like i mentioned i seen that power supply shoot sparks out it killed my buddies mobo to :pfff:  but that's what happens when you use bad rated power supplies :( 

I'm a little late but that exact model failed during [H]ardOCP's load test.

http://hardocp.com/article/2010/11/22/cooler_master_gx_...
a c 185 U Graphics card
October 5, 2012 2:39:03 AM

You only heard one story.I honestly think this is from a new batch it's because MSI is trying to keep their customers happy but NV is really bulling them about voltage locking.The issue is msi has already sold millions of these product claiming the voltage is unlocked.I can understand they had to try to do something to keep customers happy, but at the same time follow NV rule.Well this put MSI in a very bad position.Clearly it was wrong what they did.I understand why though people shouldn't be so mad at msi it's NV they should be pissed at but enough of all that talk.I don't want to get into a big debate about it.Bottom line... msi has to back up their warranty on the cards.I have two msi 670 PE not a dam thing wrong with them.I think this might be something they only did with a recent batch of the 660 ti and 660 not sure but i wouldn't return my cards even if they asked me to lol! There something bigger going on then most are catching onto but i am not going to say because i don't want to be involved.
a c 185 U Graphics card
October 5, 2012 2:47:39 AM

I think the silent pro series are the only trust worthy ones they sell or am i wrong ?
a c 503 U Graphics card
October 5, 2012 2:53:42 AM

bigcyco1 said:
I think the silent pro series are the only trust worthy ones they sell or am i wrong ?

Yep, the Silent Pro Series are the only ones that are worthy of consideration.
a c 185 U Graphics card
October 5, 2012 3:18:11 AM

o.k. thanks!
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