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October 4, 2012 12:42:25 AM

Hello, I need a bit of help. I can't seem to install the drivers for my Diamond x1650 graphics card. Help please?

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October 4, 2012 12:43:24 AM

If you need more technical info, let me know and I can find it.
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October 4, 2012 12:49:48 AM

What operating system are you using?

AMD's web site should have any usable drivers for your card. If there aren't any, then chance re that you can't get drivers for that card. It is very old, so this is possible if you don't use Windows XP.
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October 4, 2012 12:52:20 AM

I'm using XP, and I think I did find the right drivers. The problem is, every time I try to install it, my system won't boot. I have to go into safe mode and restore my machine back to the way it was before I installed the drivers..
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October 4, 2012 12:56:16 AM

EthanDaniels said:
I'm using XP, and I think I did find the right drivers. The problem is, every time I try to install it, my system won't boot. I have to go into safe mode and restore my machine back to the way it was before I installed the drivers..


Maybe you're installing them wrong (it's not always as simple as a lot of people expect it to be). Try installing a program called Driver fusion. Boot into safe mode and use it to delete all graphical drivers components from AMD, Intel, and Nvidia. Restart and use it again to verify that it worked. Then reboot again and try installing this driver:

http://www2.ati.com/drivers/10-2_legacy_xp32-64_dd_ccc....
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October 4, 2012 1:20:03 AM

Ok. I've been trying to download Fusion, but I need another program called microsoft .net framework. I found and downloaded it. But for it to run, I need yet another program. Windows imaging component. I found WIP and downloaded it. But when I try to run it, it gives me a weird pop up titled: " ????????????????????WIP???????"
and saying "???????????????????windows xp???????????????????????"

What does that mean and how do i fix it?
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October 4, 2012 1:37:02 AM

Sorry, I don't know what to do at this point other than give Google a try and wait for someone more experienced with this issue.
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October 4, 2012 1:43:54 AM

Hmm. Ok, thanks. To the internets shall I go! xP

Edit: Hmm.. While Microsoft's official download page didn't work, Cnet's copy seems to run without a hitch. Weird, but ok.
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October 4, 2012 2:36:04 AM

I think I followed your instructions correctly, but I still got a 'this software hasn't passed the windows logo test' message while trying to install. I clicked 'install anyways', and nothing changed. I still had to revert my system to let it boot..
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October 4, 2012 2:40:06 AM

EthanDaniels said:
I think I followed your instructions correctly, but I still got a 'this software hasn't passed the windows logo test' message while trying to install. I clicked 'install anyways', and nothing changed. I still had to revert my system to let it boot..


Maybe Driver Fusion only works on Windows Vista/7/8 based systems. Try Driver Sweeper instead of Driver Fusion, it's an older version.
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October 4, 2012 2:56:58 AM

But how would that help if my OS is seemingly incompatible?
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October 4, 2012 2:58:30 AM

EthanDaniels said:
But how would that help if my OS is seemingly incompatible?


Driver Sweeper should be compatible with XP, apparently unlike Driver Fusion, because Driver Sweeper is older than Vista IIRC. That's how it might help.
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October 4, 2012 3:02:21 AM

Oh! Hmm. Ok, I'll get back to you once I've finished.
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October 4, 2012 7:54:15 AM

If you are trying to install a recent AMD graphics driver, that does not work for your card because your card is too old, as Luciferano already advised.

You should look for an older driver. Look into " http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/previous/... " and go deep down the list. Before you download and install, try to find and read the release notes to see if your card is listed as compatible. Find a driver version closest to your current video drivers from up the list.
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October 4, 2012 5:51:12 PM

Ok, thanks!

Oh, I looked around and it seems as if Driver Sweeper is no more. It's apparently been removed and replaced with Fusion.
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October 4, 2012 7:03:28 PM

EthanDaniels said:
Ok, thanks!

Oh, I looked around and it seems as if Driver Sweeper is no more. It's apparently been removed and replaced with Fusion.


Like I said, it's a lot older than fusion, hence I thought it should work. I'll see if I can find you a download link for Sweeper if you need one.
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October 4, 2012 7:20:59 PM

Ok, thanks. I found a few links, but they all have expired messages, or they redirect me to Fusion.
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October 4, 2012 7:52:07 PM

Ok. It seems to have downloaded fine, now I'm just looking for the way to make it findable in safe mode.
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October 4, 2012 7:56:57 PM

start menu shortcut, shortcut on the desktop, why would that be difficult to do?
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October 4, 2012 8:01:09 PM

Nevermind. I went throught the Readme file, and it said to use the admin account. I tried the hidden Administrator, and I couldn't find it there. I then swapped to my default account and it was right where i left it.
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October 4, 2012 8:05:29 PM

Right click on its shortcut or run executable file and use "run as administrator" or use the task manager to run it as administrator.
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October 4, 2012 8:21:32 PM

Ok, done. Now I've taken the driver and tried to install it. It seemed to work and there were no incompatibility messages. So i restarted my system, It starts to boot. But a message on my screen pops up, and says:

Input signal out of range

Power management 20 sec.

The timer starts counting down, but within five second the screen flashes and displays the same message, though the timer is reset. Then, the screen flashes with the Gateway logo a few times, and give me the safe mode option screen..

Edit: I've tried lowering the resolution in safe mode to no avail.
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October 4, 2012 8:29:48 PM

Did you use Driver Sweeper to get rid of all remnants of AMD/Nvidia/Intel graphics drivers before trying to install any new driver? Installing Driver sweeper isn't enough, you have to run it.
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October 4, 2012 8:40:39 PM

I think I did. I opened it, selected all of the items you previously mentioned, then hit clean.
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October 4, 2012 8:44:01 PM

Ugh... Here it goes again...
I always tell people that the best option you can have when your drivers won't work, is to go DIRECTLY download the drivers from the company that made the parts.
In your case, its DIAMOND, not AMD.

So here you go:
http://www.diamondmm.com/X1650PCIE512.php

At the bottom there's a "Support and Downloads" Tab, click on it and download the WIN XP/2K Driver.

-Hope it helps! :) 
Bloc97
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October 4, 2012 8:44:03 PM

EthanDaniels said:
I think I did. I opened it, selected all of the items you previously mentioned, then hit clean.


Re-boot when that's done and do it again to make sure that Driver Sweeper got everything. Once you've ensured that nothing remains, then install the newest drivers for your graphics.
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October 4, 2012 10:11:18 PM

bloc97 said:
Ugh... Here it goes again...
I always tell people that the best option you can have when your drivers won't work, is to go DIRECTLY download the drivers from the company that made the parts.
In your case, its DIAMOND, not AMD.

So here you go:
http://www.diamondmm.com/X1650PCIE512.php

At the bottom there's a "Support and Downloads" Tab, click on it and download the WIN XP/2K Driver.

-Hope it helps! :) 
Bloc97


I've tried those drivers. It was the first place I looked when I was sure of my driver brand/type..

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October 4, 2012 10:33:34 PM

Ok.. I've tried cleaning them in both safe and regular mode with admin permissions.. But they won't leave. Every time I start up the Sweeper, the drivers are still there, taunting me..
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October 4, 2012 11:11:37 PM

Still didn't work..

I used this driver: http://www.dmmdownload.com/product_search.php

I ran the file, and I think it should've worked..

Edit: The desription says this is a 'driver update'. Does this mean I need to have the original driver installed first? I'm guessing not, but I guess I might as well ask.
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October 4, 2012 11:21:16 PM

You shouldn't need to have an older driver installed for an update. I don't know why this isn't working. Maybe your card is damaged. Given its age, that's not unlikely.
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October 4, 2012 11:49:21 PM

*sigh*

I hope it isn't.. Do you know of any other good, budget cards that can handle casual gaming? (Minecraft, mostly)
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October 4, 2012 11:50:35 PM

Though.. When I use driver sweep, should it not show anything from AMI/
AMD when I've finished?
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October 4, 2012 11:57:49 PM

Just being curious, what does you mean by "I cannot install drivers"?

The drivers won't install and gives a error? or it simply doesn't work?

-Bloc97
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October 5, 2012 12:01:01 AM

EthanDaniels said:
Ok, done. Now I've taken the driver and tried to install it. It seemed to work and there were no incompatibility messages. So i restarted my system, It starts to boot. But a message on my screen pops up, and says:

Input signal out of range

Power management 20 sec.

The timer starts counting down, but within five second the screen flashes and displays the same message, though the timer is reset. Then, the screen flashes with the Gateway logo a few times, and give me the safe mode option screen..

Edit: I've tried lowering the resolution in safe mode to no avail.


The drivers seem to install, but when I try to reboot the system it loops and gives that ^ message. I'm guessing that I could've missed something while I was trying to remove the old drivers, but I don't know how I might have done so. I'm (most obviously) quite a noob when it comes to things like this; though I'm learning.
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October 5, 2012 12:20:09 AM

Oh, and under system information it says my card isn't configured properly. That might be it! How do I configure it?
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October 5, 2012 12:23:37 AM

EthanDaniels said:
Oh, and under system information it says my card isn't configured properly. That might be it! How do I configure it?

Can you tell me what is the error code?

Also, which version of Windows are you using? If it is Windows 7, is it x64??
x64 Windows Usually have a wide range of driver problems.

-Bloc97
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October 5, 2012 12:28:44 AM

I'm using Windows XP, and it doesn't really give a code. It just fails to boot, and keeps saying how my input signal is out of range.
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October 5, 2012 12:35:46 AM

Then what is the "system information" you are talking about?
Is it in the BIOS?

If your signal is out of range, it means that the resolution/bitrate/hertz that your Graphic Card is outputting isn't supported by your Monitor. If it didn't block the signal, it could damage your monitor.

-Bloc97
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October 5, 2012 2:51:49 AM

I'm talking about the system information window. You can get to it from Start > All programs > Accessories > System tools > System information .

Hmm. Ok. I'll see if I can get the driver in, then adjust the settings via the Catalyst control panel.

Simply out of curiosity, what would happen if it did let the signal through? What would the monitor display? How exactly would it break? I don't doubt you, I'm just wondering.
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October 5, 2012 8:25:05 PM

EthanDaniels said:
Simply out of curiosity, what would happen if it did let the signal through? What would the monitor display? How exactly would it break? I don't doubt you, I'm just wondering.


It would display a ton of dots, graphical glitches or even nothing at all. The signal usually goes through a DAC (Digital-to-Analog Converter) inside your screen, if the signal is out of sync or too strong, it would be like if you were overclocking it.
And a misuse of overclocking can break components. (Not especially the DAC, but it can break other things.)
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October 6, 2012 7:20:43 PM

Argh! I found the disc that the card came with, and it's giving me the same errors! I've even gone so far as to reset the machine, and install the drivers before I do anything else!
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