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Upgrading from HD 5750

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October 4, 2012 10:14:07 AM

:hello: 

Im planning to upgrade my ASUS HD 5750. :) 

My current system config:-
AMD PhenomII X6 2.8Ghz
6GB RAM
600W Huntkey PSU
18.5" Acer Monitor (1366 X 768 max resolution).

Initially i was planning for the GTX 660Ti. But it launched here in my country way too highly priced (approx 462 USD)... :ouch: 
So now the idea is to go for a HD 7850 or GTX 660 (non Ti) model..

the below are the shortlisted models.. pls help me selecting one... :bounce: 

1. GTX 660 - INR 19000 (366 USD)

Link - http://www.flipkart.com/zotac-nvidia-geforce-gtx660-2gb...

2. Sapphire HD 7850 2GB version - INR 19000 (366 USD)

Link - http://www.flipkart.com/sapphire-amd-ati-hd-7850-hdmi-o...

3. HIS HD 7850 2GB version - INR 17000 (327 USD)

Link - http://www.flipkart.com/his-amd-h785qn2g2m-2-gb-gddr5-g...

4. Sapphire HD 7850 1GB version - INR 15000 (288 USD)

Link - http://www.flipkart.com/sapphire-amd-hd-7850-1gb-oc-gdd...

The points where i'm confused are:-
1. Is the GTX 660 (non Ti) better than a HD 7850 (2GB or 1GB versions)?
2. Will there be significant performance difference between the 1GB and 2GB versions of HD 7850?

Pls suggest me the best card...

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a b U Graphics card
October 4, 2012 12:39:58 PM

You play on a too low resolution to go for mid range cards in my opinion. A 7770 GHZ Edition will suit you best in my opinion. Its not too expensive, however it has potential even if you do go up to 1080p, it can still run BF3 at 1080p at around 50 fps on Mid-High settings, which is what you want.
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a b U Graphics card
October 4, 2012 12:57:31 PM

1366x768?
Get the HD 7850 1GB version.
If you plan to play games at higher resolution get the 2GB version.
October 5, 2012 6:42:15 AM

thanks for all the replies guys...
But im planning to be ready for Crysis 3... and i dont think a 7770 can handle that at acceptable frame rates.... I want the card to last for 2-3 yrs more....
As Bhargav said, will a 6870 be suitable for me??? Also, among the 660 and 7850 which is more effective performance wise....
a b U Graphics card
October 5, 2012 7:25:47 AM

660 is technically better at 1080p, but its memory bandwidth is crippled, meaning it won't last more than a year and a half. I'd recommend a 7850, if you don't want a 7770. Crysis 3 won't be that hard to run at 1366x768, if you play on 1080p+ thats where it gets a little bit more difficult to run.

I think you would be fine with a 6870, or a 7850/7870 if you wanted extra fps. A 7850 is perfect if you feel that you might upgrade to 1080p in the future, best of all it will last at least 2-3 years because the memory bandwidth isn't cut to crap like the 660 and the 660ti. You'd be a dork to get that card. Even in some games, the 7870, which is $50 cheaper than the 660ti, pulls out ahead from it, when you start enabling AA, because its crippled memory bandwidth can't handle the AA. Considering you are playing at a low resolution, you would want a card with a higher memory bandwidth to get rid of all the jagged lines, since you would want to play with anti aliasing on.

However, since you are playing again at a low resolution, it really wouldn't matter whether you went with Nvidia or AMD, their memory bandwidths are high enough to not affect results in 768p.
a b U Graphics card
October 5, 2012 7:41:20 AM

JJ1217 said:
660 is technically better at 1080p, but its memory bandwidth is crippled, meaning it won't last more than a year and a half. I'd recommend a 7850, if you don't want a 7770. Crysis 3 won't be that hard to run at 1366x768, if you play on 1080p+ thats where it gets a little bit more difficult to run.

I think you would be fine with a 6870, or a 7850/7870 if you wanted extra fps. A 7850 is perfect if you feel that you might upgrade to 1080p in the future, best of all it will last at least 2-3 years because the memory bandwidth isn't cut to crap like the 660 and the 660ti. You'd be a dork to get that card. Even in some games, the 7870, which is $50 cheaper than the 660ti, pulls out ahead from it, when you start enabling AA, because its crippled memory bandwidth can't handle the AA. Considering you are playing at a low resolution, you would want a card with a higher memory bandwidth to get rid of all the jagged lines, since you would want to play with anti aliasing on.

However, since you are playing again at a low resolution, it really wouldn't matter whether you went with Nvidia or AMD, their memory bandwidths are high enough to not affect results in 768p.



I swear when i see forums like this i truely believe nvidia pissed people off..And i always see "oh this card is crap just get amd..Why not offer the best bang from both camps instead of 1 and let the op choose instead of pushing 1 card
a b U Graphics card
October 5, 2012 7:55:51 AM

Says the person with the nvidia picture.. Nvidia just make their cards cheaper and cheaper and charge more and more. Have fun with your 1440p with AA on :) 
a b U Graphics card
October 5, 2012 7:59:02 AM

And I said, since he was playing on a low resolution, I even said it wouldn't matter. It really is up to him what he gets, and I won't look down on him in any way.

If the 660ti was priced around the 7870 mark, I would be recommending the 660ti no doubt. Just because the card is genuinely crap in my eyes, does not mean I should be recommending it to him because you want him to.
a b U Graphics card
October 5, 2012 3:55:02 PM

JJ1217 said:
Says the person with the nvidia picture.. Nvidia just make their cards cheaper and cheaper and charge more and more. Have fun with your 1440p with AA on :) 


I will say both cards instead of pushing one card..Alot of people will go just ati or nvidia but atleast ill give both sides of the camp a option within range..Most times when we see card vs card first benchmarks will come up then we see bias followed by subjective answers
October 8, 2012 1:07:47 PM

JJ1217 said:
660 is technically better at 1080p, but its memory bandwidth is crippled, meaning it won't last more than a year and a half. I'd recommend a 7850, if you don't want a 7770. Crysis 3 won't be that hard to run at 1366x768, if you play on 1080p+ thats where it gets a little bit more difficult to run.

I think you would be fine with a 6870, or a 7850/7870 if you wanted extra fps. A 7850 is perfect if you feel that you might upgrade to 1080p in the future, best of all it will last at least 2-3 years because the memory bandwidth isn't cut to crap like the 660 and the 660ti. You'd be a dork to get that card. Even in some games, the 7870, which is $50 cheaper than the 660ti, pulls out ahead from it, when you start enabling AA, because its crippled memory bandwidth can't handle the AA. Considering you are playing at a low resolution, you would want a card with a higher memory bandwidth to get rid of all the jagged lines, since you would want to play with anti aliasing on.

However, since you are playing again at a low resolution, it really wouldn't matter whether you went with Nvidia or AMD, their memory bandwidths are high enough to not affect results in 768p.



Thanks a lot... :)  that pretty much sums up evrythin I wanted to know....
I will be going with the 7850 for sure.... But now comes two more questions into my mind :-
1. 1GB or 2GB version of 7850 considering the price difference of about (INR 3000 - $60 approx)? :sarcastic: 
2. Will I regret missing the Physx and FXAA & TXAA features supported by nVidia cards? :sarcastic: 
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